he did a couple of made for TV things .. wasnt chiller made for TV ?

It was - made the same year as his Twilight Zone episodes.

there was another one .. it shared the same name as another film ..

Invitation to hell ...

I have the damn thing on VHS somewhere ... it reminded me of the stepford wives ... only it was like the stepford town

And Night Visions, Casebusters and Strangers in Our House... hey, they're all better than Scream and New Shightmare!

LOL ok Austin if you promess not to tell I will tell you how as you put it Know all this shit. PSS I have been watching horror movies for 39 years. But its not like I am obsessed with horror movies I can quit anytime.

haaaaaaaaaa..... Obsession is the name of the game... I'm hooked. There's no denying it.

You don't have to watch 39 years of movies to know that, you study and it comes to you.

Also....Horror of Dracula is nothing like the orginal Dracula.....I wouldn't call it a remake (only because you want to do a movie based on a book that doesn't mean its a remake. Also buying the rights from the original doesn't make it a remake at all, it makes it an ADAPTION. Hammer wanted to homage all those older horror films by making their own adaptions of them.

Lets say I wanted to make my own Dracula film, I'd have to buy the rights first, but hell just because I use the title "Dracula" and base it on the same story, it does not make it a remake....A film like TCM which is based on a SCREENPLAY (hecne the word "screen") is a remake. A remake is looking at a film and saying "hey why don't we make that again, I think we could do a better job". An adpation is "hey this was a good book lets make a movie out of it....".

Universal was quick to sue anyone who made their Frankenstein monster look like theirs, so Hammer studios made theirs a little different with Curse of Frankenstein. They put Lee as the roll and they made him look more like a zombie.

Hi Classic I heard that once about Universal and they not wanting anyone to try and copy their Frankenstien appearence wise.
I think Christopher Lee was in Curse of Frankenstien 1957 Hammer. There was a rumor many fans were upset about how Lee looked and fans expecting to see a Boris Karloff style Frankenstien monster. If I could pick which characters from all the Frankenstien movies made I would like Karloff as the monster and Peter Cushing as Victor Frankenstien.

don't you hate when people call the monster frankenstien.

Not as much as when they call the killer in Friday the 13th, "Jason".

the monster in Frankenstein is known as THE CREATURE, bugs me too.

Dont you just hate it when people call Captian Kangaroo Dr. Phibes or Mister Greenjeans Farmer Vincent.

The Top Five
 

1. The Thing
2. The Omen
3. The Exorcist
4. The Shining
5. Alien

Honorable Mentions: Dead Trilogy, Curse of the Demon (57'), Alien, Scanners, The Wolfman, Zombie, Halloween 1 and 2.

Re: The Top Five
 

Alien is on your list

I prefer the original The Thing movie over Carpenters remake. Both are good but the original just has that certain feel.

No I just think your a crackhead.

The original isn't even close to carpenter's.

LOL Nemesis thats my point I know the original is not like John Carpenters in 1982. The original has that nostalgic feel to it and its much more convincing and it projects howthe country was feeling at that time about UFOs.

I don't like to think of these two films as remakes because ones called The Thing From Another World, when JC's version is plainly The Thing.

Carpenter's version stays much closer to the source material than the 'original'. They're not even the same movie, basically.

Omen evryone knows they are not the same movie. But no doubt both are good movies. I prefer the one that was made with James Arnes. The thing I have noticed is that younger fans like Carpenters version a bit more while older fans will prefer the original. I can tell you this I enjoyed watching the Thing alot more when it was B&W than when Ted Turner colorized it.

Classic I dont think you really know the diffrence between a remake and an adption and a sequel here are the diffrences. A remake is movie that is based on a movie that was made by someone else using the same characters same story etc. An adption is a movie about a character lets say for example a Werewolf. Ok say the 1st Werewolf movie which was made in 1913 and then lets say someone else wants to make a movie about a Werewolf. That person will make their own story/movie about a Werewolf a diffrent movie diffrent people & characters. Thats an adption. A sequel of course is a follow up movie to an original like the Hammer Dracula movies with Christopher Lee.

I really want to see the original Thing [from Another World], Carpenter's was amazing, completly amazing.

Hi Amazing I remember when I first saw The Thing from another World or as fans would call it the Thing. Anyway all I ever heard was how good it the movie really was and then I saw it myself. It was ok not bad at all. The movie imo captures what the country was feeling back then. This movie really makes you wonder what would we do if an alien spacecraft did crash on Earth. I saw it years later in a colorized version the colorized version was just as good but it lacked the original feel a bit kind of how KingKong a masterpiece is awesome in B&W but that lacks when seen in color. Imo some movies just work better in B&W. If you get the chance check out the Thing. For a scifi movie it is still ranks as one of the best ever made.

I have seen both the B&W Hawks version, and the '82 version multiple times. And while I liked the first, it doesn't hold up today. You really think an 18 year old kid is going to relate to the analogies being drawn in the 'original?' The dialogue is old fashioned, and so is the alien. It is a good movie, but the Carpenter version is more effective as a thriller for me.

By the way, I'm not some punk kid, I'm old old old! I tells ya!

Hi Omen I know what your saying about kids today not really caring for older movies because they dont have all the cool modern specail effects like todays movies. Thats really a shame because if the Thing was not such a good movie it would have never been remade in 1982 by John carpenter. Growning up I was not your regular teen I wanted to know who made the older horror movies and why.

I dont see many people like myself today who can appreciate the older and newer horror & scifi movies alike. A good example of movies that may have influenced other movies to be made is probley the 1958 scif movie titled It Terror from beyond space United Artists probley influenced the 1979 movie Alien to be made. Both movies seem to have the same basic plot. But how many young fans will take that in mind when watching the 1958 movie? Today we have director Peter Jackson remaking the 1933 classic KingKong and many are excited about this upcoming movie but how many like the original Kong movie in B&W? Btw Omen I am a bit older myself and I am in my mid 40s. At my age I think I was very lucky to have seen many of the classic movies fans talk about in forums like this. I kind of consider movies made in the 1980s to present recent lol.

While I'm not old, old, old...I am old, old, and I still like all eras of horror films. The old ones take all of us back to Horrors' roots (ie., how far would horror have gone if it wasn't for old movies like Lon Chaney's Phantom of the Opera, Nosferatu, The Wolfman, The Day the Eart Stood Still etc...) of course the dialogue is old fashioned...but it wasn't when the movie was made. I agree, that Carpenters Version is better (I have three copies of it) but you still gotta love the old style B&W's where they don't cuss and blood doesn't cover the set. I throughly enjoy watching the old fashioned ones as a matter of fact, I just watched The Wolfman a couple of days ago. I might have backed it up with Dawn of the Dead to get my daily quota of necessary gore, but I still like the Classics.

1. Halloween
2. Blair witch project
3. Hellraiser
4. Night of the living dead(origanal)
5. Texas Chainsaw Massacre

I really love classics. I mean I love horror now but Classics just have that magic to them.

Nemesis ever wonder why the classics have that magic?

Don't get him started. LOL

LOL Austin I just wonderd if Nemesis ever thought why that was. It would be easy for me to say why that is but I want to see who here also knows but Nemesis did ask a good question indeed.

Oh really?

Do tell.

Hold on, didn't you say you were actually a magician or somesuch as well as a big lizard expert?

You'll get booted out of the magic circle!

Intersting I dont ever recal me saying I was a big Lizard Expert But I have said I am an expert in Giant Japanese monster movies. Heck probley all Giant monster movies. Well Nemesis to answer your question as to why it is that the older horror movies seem to have that certain magic as you put it. Is because film makers of the day were concentrating more on a good story and less on special effects. Movie studios hired good actors back then and not tv sitcom stars for their movies. Just on this board alone one of the fave horror movies of the 70s is the Exorcist and thats because the cast of the Exorcist were all good actors and the movie was very well made. The same can be said with the Omen movies good cast good directors good script. I see Hammers Dracula movies and with little specail effects they knew how to make good Dracula movies. In the late 70s and early 80s Jason and Myers and Freddy movies were just movies with kid actors many from tv sitcom movies. These movies had beter specail effects but not better acting. In other words they lacked that magic that Nemesis talks about. Scream I know what you did last summer basicly the same teen flicks. In film movies I noticed that in the 80s horror movie quality movies were declining but scifi movies were on the uprise seen that alot of better scifi movies were now being made. Its a real treat when a movie like Bram Stokers Dracula in 1992 was made a very well made Dracula movie with top notch actors great script etc. That movie had the magic. The reason less of those type of horror movies are made here in the USA is because movie studios dont want to spend the money on horror movies. This is very sad indeed if you remember it was horror movies that saved Universal from going bankrupt decades ago. The problemin horror today is that the movies are not rated R and because they arnt the studios are forced to make kiddiehorror movies like Chucky and thats sad. How I miss the old days and Drive ins. And lets not forget it was a former Magican that made the very 1st horror and scifi movies his name was Georges Melies and he was one of the founding fathers of movie making as we know it today.

I know you don't care for Halloween much but could you please reframe from putting it in the same category with I Know What You Did Last Summer and Scream.

Why not ? They are all slashers..:)

Austin who says I dont like Halloween? I saw it back in 1978 and I enjoyed it. I also enjoyed the 1st 2 Jason movies. It was after that they just started to rehash the same stuff over and over again. Jason movies imo became more of movies where goodlooking babes could be seen not that thats bad if you like hot chicks but the movies were just repeating themselves. That gets boring after a while and the acting was not very good One of the Halloween movies I liked alot was Season of the Witch Halloween 3. I liked it because it was diffrent and for a while I thought Halloween was going to be a series of diffrent characters 1st Myers in 2 movies then another character in 2 more movies etc. imo that would have been a great idea. But after 1978 there was a decline in good horror movies thats for sure I was greatful when movies like the Howling were made. If there is one thing I hate it would be campy movies yuk.

I know they're all slashers but I thought he was putting them in the same category of quality and that's just wrong.

The idea was to have Halloween to be a series of different movies but after the third people were mad because they ecspected Myers and he obviously wasn't in the film so they desided to go back to Myers.

If you just want to talk Slasher movies in that case alot of them today are just boring. I think I out grew Slasher type movies when I was maybe 20.

I guess I never will ;)

FAVORITES
 

5. LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT

4. NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET

3. SUSPIRIA

2. THE HILLS HAVE EYES

1. TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE


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