i love mice ..

i caught a deermouse in our old house and had him for over 4 years ... pretty much tamed him.

very gentle little creatures.

you've never heard crispies 'crackle' you're missing so much at breakfast time ;)

the cabbage and veg bubbles and squeaks as high temperature release trapped air and liquids within, the mash crackles aswell.

:)

bbbbbbuubble..... bannnggeeeeerrs.. .......noooo ......chiiiippppssss.... arrGH!

BANGERS would win I guess :D

like lobsters - boiled alive.


talk about an unlucky creature ..

ugly as sin .. live at the bottom of the ocean hidden in little crevaces .... who would ever think they would be good to eat let alone find them ?

and what do we do ? snatch them up, pack them in ice - alive,
stick them in tanks where they live their last few days being stared at by the people who will eat them (with their claws pegged or elastic bands keeping them shut)
then finally thrown into a boiling pot alive ... to cook to death,


oh - yeah .. and if you're lucky enough to be in a chinese restaurant ... they shove a chopstick up their asses to make them pee before being cooked.

in my opinion, the most unfortunate creature on the planet.

I think the chinese have a thing for crustation tourture. I'd never eat lobster at a reasturant.

i went out with a girl from Hong Kong for 3 years ...

I watched her dad prepare crab once and i almost fainted..

they take them live, shove in the area where the eye stalks are and then rip them in half, like opening a hamburger ..

while the parts are all moving around in the sink.

then threw them on the BBQ..


i was so upset i could only eat 7 or 8 of the tasty little buggers.

i think it is 3 -1 in favor of the bangers.

I like crab pate, thats quite nice.

how else would you kill a crab, I'm not saying that's the only way but I can't think of any at least any that wouldn't be painful.

it's either ......get poked in the eye with a chefs skewer, or smashed through the head by seagull beak, either way its a crushing death.

I prefer to inject my seafood with small amounts of drano. Granted, it is painful, but it is quick, and you get a buzz when you eat them.

A new study out of Norway concludes that it´s unlikely lobsters feel pain, stirring up a long-simmering debate over whether Maine´s most valuable seafood suffers when it´s being cooked.

Animal activists for years have claimed that lobsters feel excruciating agony when they are cooked, and that dropping one in a pot of boiling water is tantamount to torture.

The study, which was funded by the Norwegian government and written by a scientist at the University of Oslo, suggests that lobsters and other invertebrates probably don´t suffer even if lobsters do tend to thrash in boiling water.

"Lobsters and crabs have some capacity of learning, but it is unlikely that they can feel pain," the study concluded.

crawfish don't have it any better. either swallowed by some sort of bird, stepped on or thrown into boiling water.

Do lobsters have a central nervous system? or something of the like in basic form?

if so, then I think they do feel pain and the thrashing is a natural reaction to try and escape.

unless they are completely brain dead and full of mush.

I thought all living things felt pain, except for plants and trees.

The 39-page report was aimed at determining if invertebrates should be subject to animal welfare legislation as Norway revises its animal welfare law. The report looked at invertebrate groups such as insects, crustaceans, worms and mollusks and summarized the scientific literature dealing with feelings and pain among those creatures without backbones.

It concluded that most invertebrates _ including lobsters, crabs, worms, snails, slugs and clams _ probably don´t have the capacity to feel pain.

Lobster biologists in Maine have maintained for years that the lobster´s primitive nervous system and underdeveloped brain are similar to that of an insect. While lobsters react to different stimuli, such as boiling water, the reactions are escape mechanisms, not a conscious response or an indication of pain, they say.

The Norwegian report backs up a study in the early 1990s at the University of Maine and reinforces what people in the lobster industry have always contended, said Bob Bayer, executive director of the Lobster Institute, a research and education organization in Orono.




I only report the news....personally I kinda feel bad for the little suckers.

Supposedly, many "lower" orders of life have the ability to sense touch, but have no pain receptors. Thrashing may be an attempt to escape from percieved danger, but not an actual reaction to "pain" per se.

There is also the possibility that in many cases, ass the brain (or whatever) dies, it has a tendency to fire off random signals that make for some awful, spasmodic twitching, even though it is technically dead..



That being said, aside from becoming a lobster, it is damn near impossible to tell if it is just twitching, or the lobster screaming "HOLY SHIT, I'M BURNING!!!! AHHHHHHH!!! FOR CHRISTS SAKE, MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!"

i used to have a boss that had no backbone.

i should have kicked her in the knee to test the theory.

Aha, but how do you know plants dont feel pain?


And trees are plants. You probably knew that, but i am a know it all :D

Bacteria are lifeforms, but i seriously doubt a single-celled creature has a nervous system...

Actually, experiments have been done that suggest that possibly, plants are more "conscious" than we animals have supposed--that on a primitive level, they are aware of what's going on, and that when threatened, they attempt to protect themselves from anticipated or further harm.

But they're definitely not as smart as animals, because if an onion were REALLY smart, it would uproot, turn its roots into legs, and get the hell away from the person that wants to toss it into the spaghetti sauce.

there have been studies to suggest that plants can communicate with each other as well ...

esp. trees, from miles away.

i havent read anything in detail to know what to believe but it begs wot wonder what they hell they would have to say.


'there's a fucking squirrel in my head'

''there's a goddamn kid making a fort in my head'

'some asshole is cutting me down - i'm gonna fall on my head'

Treebeard and friends knew what Sauron was doing.

Not to shit on your theory about the onion.... But i dont care how smart you are, you can think yourself limbs.

If that were the case, i would bet Stephen hawking would have all new ones, and grow an extra arm so he can go skiing with Zaphod Beeblebrox.


That, an im sure he would have 1 or 2 extra peni. he is a dirty man.

Bangers are still at 3-1 btw

they weren't trees .. they were Ents !!
tree shepherds !

you have to get this nerd stuff right ! :)

LMAO!!!

''I don't see the problem with writting on stone like you guys used to''

they had bark, leaves, twigs and moss for hair, so chainsaw fodder they are :D

holy shit, you ARE Sauron !! :D

Makes yopu wonder... If a lumberjack killed an Ent, would he mount it's head on the wall? Or make the wall out of its head?

he'd stick him in the back yard and nail one end of a clothesline into him

No seriously now, back to the onion potato carrot thing. If a potato were really smart it would grow legs and arms, pull itself up from your garden, and sneak into your window at night and choke you. It could happen, people!!!!

I say again:

2 more votes for bangers and this thing is done.

I just hope you're joking.

Meet Mr. Potato Head.
Made right here in little Rhody.
http://www.kbtoys.com/g/toys/big/115954a.jpg

I'm totally serious. I saw a picture of a ginger root that had developed sex organs. And a french fry that looked like a ballerina. A potato could totally kick a person's ass, if it would just make up its mind to do so. I had some fried jalapenos that kicked mine once.

BANGERS/BUBBLE THING: I looked at those photos, and I totally can't decide! I would want a little of both. They both look pretty darn tasty. I've never had either of these dishes, but by golly, I would like to.

There's an English restaurant I just got introduced to, and they have these dishes there, I think I will be gutsy and try one of them next time I go.

you CANNOT think yourself a new body part.

If that were true I would have a full head of hair.








and an enormous schwanzstucker.




Blücher

Hey!

newb, quit scaring the horses....

you catch on quick grasshopper

http://www.annotatedmst.com/episodes...ws/blucher.gif

......

That goes without saying..!

But seriously, haven't you guys ever seen "Lisztomania"?

Roger Daltrey sort of thinks himself a new body part in that one.

Yes, Sense' ( i think)