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Despare 11-08-2007 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycom5k (Post 645359)
Who the hell said I can't see the horror elements in Army of Darkness? I never said that Army of darkness wasn't a horror movie. I never said that those elements aren't in the movie. All I was saying was that just because a movie has horror elements in it, doesn't necessarily mean that it is horror movie. And I was NOT saying that AoD isn't a horror movie, because thats what your trying to twist what I am saying into.

But ya know what? I'm done. There is no point in arguing with somebody like you. God forbid I try to get into a discussion. So drop it. I am.

Don't tell me what to drop, I love to argue, I was built for it. Army of Darkness is more "horror" than most of the new "horror" movies released today. I've already talked about what it includes and it's more than a simple recurring horror theme. Army of Darkness is a horror movie filled to the brim with slapstick comedy. Without the horror part of the movie... the book of the dead and the deadites etc... there could be no movie. Army of Darkness is a horror movie at the core and without Bruce Campbell's witty remarks and physical humor to lighten the mood this film WOULD have been pretty damn creepy.

Psycom5k 11-08-2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 645393)
Don't tell me what to drop, I love to argue, I was built for it. Army of Darkness is more "horror" than most of the new "horror" movies released today. I've already talked about what it includes and it's more than a simple recurring horror theme. Army of Darkness is a horror movie filled to the brim with slapstick comedy. Without the horror part of the movie... the book of the dead and the deadites etc... there could be no movie. Army of Darkness is a horror movie at the core and without Bruce Campbell's witty remarks and physical humor to lighten the mood this film WOULD have been pretty damn creepy.

So, who's ready for Thanksgiving? I love turkey, so its one of my favorite holidays.
I always get a leg, otherwise somebody is losing theirs.

Does anybody want to know how to make their own cranberry sauce? And no I don't mean the stuff in the can, thats more like jelly than sauce. I mean good ol' wholesome fresh cranberries, being cooked into the sauce.

Ok so you take a bag of frozen cranberries, put them into a saucepan, add about a half a cup of sugar, or 3/4 to 2/3s of a cup. zest an orange, add that. Then just cover with water, bring to a boil, stirring occasionaly, and reduce it to about 3/4 to a 12, remove from heat, and use it on anything you like.

Despare 11-08-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycom5k (Post 645584)
So, who's ready for Thanksgiving? I love turkey, so its one of my favorite holidays.
I always get a leg, otherwise somebody is losing theirs.

Does anybody want to know how to make their own cranberry sauce? And no I don't mean the stuff in the can, thats more like jelly than sauce. I mean good ol' wholesome fresh cranberries, being cooked into the sauce.

Ok so you take a bag of frozen cranberries, put them into a saucepan, add about a half a cup of sugar, or 3/4 to 2/3s of a cup. zest an orange, add that. Then just cover with water, bring to a boil, stirring occasionaly, and reduce it to about 3/4 to a 12, remove from heat, and use it on anything you like.

Because the sauce is red it's horror sauce for sure. Because blood is red. Like the blood in Army of Darkness. You know... that horror movie that's pretty funny.

ChronoGrl 11-08-2007 08:56 PM

I would definitely classify Army of Darkness as a horror movie. Yes, it definitely has elements of humor, but I believe that the basic plot, the theme of the Gothic Other as well as Gothic Quest, and characters (the deadites and the Necronomicon) moves this film into the realm of the horror genre.

While some might argue that it diverges into the realm of fantasy, I would argue that the magical elements that would qualify it toward fantasy are more macabre and dark, therefore pushing it in a horror direction. I would also argue that there are elements of comedy, but these elements do not override the ubiquitous intent of the film. While it definitely follows Evil Dead 2 as a lampooning of the horror genre, it does, in fact, serve as a horror film.

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HOWEVER

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I have often argued for the other side of this debate, that Army of Darkness is not a horror movie. The only time that I make this claim, however, is when it is explicitly being compared with Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2. Usually the triad of films are brought up as Raimi's veritable Three Ringed Horror Opus, and THIS is when I have issue with Army being considered a horror film. It does not attempt to do what its two predecessors did. In Evil Dead, Raimi was making a haunted house film. In ED 2, he was lampooning his attempts at making a haunted house film while at the same time creating an even MORE effective (in my opinion) haunted house film. AOD, however, takes the lampooning element to a whole different level and creates a different branch of horror than the original two. It is no longer a haunted house film, and it definitely uses cheap slapstick and one-liners to create comedy (as opposed to ED 2, which used situational absurdity to create irony and humor) that seem to override the horror elements that so saturated the previous two films.

SO, I would say that as an organic unit taken by itself, Army of Darkness is certainly a horror film.

But when taken as part of the triology, I do not view it as so. Evil Dead is horror. Evil Dead 2 is parody/homage but still horror. And, in that light, Army of Darkness is Action/Siege/Comedy.

And, uhm... Yay for Thanksgiving!

Psycom5k 11-09-2007 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 645587)
Because the sauce is red it's horror sauce for sure. Because blood is red. Like the blood in Army of Darkness. You know... that horror movie that's pretty funny.

Anybody ever tell you that you're a bastard? And I only mean that in the best way possible.

Despare 11-09-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycom5k (Post 645668)
Anybody ever tell you that you're a bastard? And I only mean that in the best way possible.

How did you know? ;)

_____V_____ 11-09-2007 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycom5k (Post 645668)
Anybody ever tell you that you're a bastard? And I only mean that in the best way possible.

I have.

It never worked...lemme tell ya.

Psycom5k 11-09-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 645734)
I have.

It never worked...lemme tell ya.

Oh I think I allready know.


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