Oh...But we HAVE found (and destroyed) very small caches of chemical weapons, and components that can be used to make WMDs...And these very small caches, have been found in some very LARGE places (many underground)...There's no way that there wasn't much more that had been removed before we got there...You don't build an entire candy store to sell one candy bar ;)

BTW...I just wanted to say that I love the fact that we can have this discussion (debate) in a civil and intelligent manner...Perhaps things are changing at Horror.com...













Nah...I seriously doubt it...:p :D

There will always be terrorism/terrorists, even now that Sadam is out of power, even as Al-Qaeda begins to crumble apart. Terrorism is a war that has to be fought, but it's a war with no end. Terrorism has been around forever. The Romans slaughetered Christians, the Nazi's slaughtered the Jews, Whites put blacks into slavery, the KKK burn crosses, the IRA set off car bombs. These are all forms of terrorism. There will always be hatred, and that hatred will always breed forms of terrorism and terrorist.

Now that I didn't hear(I admit..I don't watch the news as much as I should) but until they pull a nuc out in front of the CNN cameras everybody's going to be stuck on the ''oil'' thing.

This maybe true but when Iraq has it's government in place and ready to take over with a military then it will be much easier to ex-spell terrorist from their country whenever they arise.

I definitely agree with you on that, unfortunately it is still going to be a long time before Iraq is going to be capable of that, on their own. And I do agree, it would be bad to just leave the country as it is currently. I just pray and hope that our troops will be safe and be able to come home as soon as possible.

Like I said...Only very SMALL caches, we blew up a few barrels, stuff like that...Apparently not very worthy or worth talking about much...Especially if you're trying to hold onto the rhetoric that 'There's NOTHING there' :rolleyes:

As for the 'oil' thing...I don't wanna even go INTO that...Let's just say that it has to do with the 'Oil For Food' program, that was SUPPOSED to be monitored by the UN (in which they failed MISERABLY), most of the profits were being funneled to Sadam (as well as others) and NOT to the people for whom it was intended, so we suggested that WE control the program, since the UN obviously couldn't handle it...And, that caused us to look like we were trying to 'take over the oil'...I KNOW I'm gonna get called out on that one, because there's a WHOLE lot more to it, that's just my quick rundown on it in a nutshell....So, for those who wish to FULLY enlighten me on the finer aspects of this subject, I already know, I just don't wanna drag it all out here...There are MANY facets to this particular debate...

hmm politics....



*walks out of the thread forever

Nope...Nothing's changed...lol

Since the notorious beheading videos were faked, could this move not be interpreted as simple propaganda for the Iraqi militants?

Granted, the victims were still killed, but not in the footage available on the internet - the casual sawing off of live heads with kitchen knives is so ridiculous it takes only a casual glance to realise the hostages have been killed under different (probably more "humane") circumstances.

One must conclude the makers of the videos - most of them appeared to have the same production team - wanted to convey a more barbaric and fearsome militia to the rest of the world.