The way I always read it was that the parents of the town SAID he was, but there was no proof of it- and I always thought that was Freddy's motivation for his revenge- that he was unfairly labeled.

In the original movie he murdered children, but there's no evidence he was a child molester- just rumors.

Here's a quote from wiki on the subject of Freddy in the remake:

And one more edit that vindicates Ferox, in re: the original SCRIPT, but not the filmed version:

I know Wiki isn't 100% accurate but from the Freddy Kruger page:

Additionally, Craven's original script detailed Krueger as a child molester, which Craven said was the "worst thing" he could think of (this idea was later recycled for the character's background in the 2010 remake). The decision was made to instead make Krueger a child murderer in order to avoid being accused of exploiting the spate of highly publicized child molestation cases in California around the time A Nightmare on Elm Street went into production.[23]

But here a bit from an interview with Englund which backs it up:

From: Screams & Nightmares, The Films of Wes Craven

Robert Englund recalls: 'Wes wrote the most evil, corrupt thing he could think of. Originally, that meant Freddy was a child molester. Right while we were shooting the fist Nightmare, there was a huge scandal based around an area of single parent yuppies in California known as South Bay. Child molesters had descended on this unsupervised flotsam of seventies leftover Me-generation American children. On the spot we changed the script from child molester to child murderer, mainly so Wes wouldn't be accused of exploiting the South bay case.'

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LOL - your edit came up just as I posted :-)

I always assumed he was a child molester.

At least the remake made the character dark again rather than the comical figure Freddy became. I hope we see some sequels.

I don't know. I've never read the original script. But If it had been like that in the original movie, i wouldn't have liked it either so whether or not it was in the original script or not, it still ruins the character.

Friends, I must clarify. I meant to type, "Return of the Living Dead 3." I realize this is akin to saying "Exorcist" when meaning to say "Exorcist 2."

I don't really see how it ruined the character at all. A child killer is just as vile as a child molester.

Return of the Living Dead 3 is great. The ones that followed weren't very good though.

Melancholia. (worst movie ever)
The Human Centipede 2 (not that I thought 1 was a masterpiece)
1408 (yes, for all its many fans I still think it's terrible)
The Ring 2 (American)
Dark Corners

Interesting thread proposition: what are some movies you hate that everyone else loves! :cool:

i agree with you on that, it would not make my 100 movies but if on tv i would sit through it and have a lough :D

friday the 13th part 5,7, 9 and 10. i watched all these back to back the other day and found these ones crap, i used to like when i was a kid but now i can see just how crap these ones are.

I guess what i meant to say was ruined it for me. I always saw Freddy as a villain you can like, someone interesting with a good backstory and someone who you wouldnt mind seeing win because he's kinda awesome. Making him a child molester takes away all that and to be honest, making him that just to make him as vile as possible just seems kinda cheap. I'd rather he be credited as a great villain due to the performance and the story instead of just how horrible he was in general.

Platoon of the Dead, enough said. The worst piece of garbage ever made.

leezuki, they are so bad but in the best way. I love campy horror movies, they are really like watching a comedy.

Late to the party here but it didn't bother me they made Freddy a child molester. I always thought it was sort of implied he was a sexual predator anyway. Every time they say "child murderer" in the series I laugh, because it sounds like they really want to say "child molester", which judging from a few of the other posts does sound like the direction they wanted to take it.

I like the post talking about him potentially being wrongly accused (though the dungeon of serial killer paraphernalia under his shed in Freddy's dead make this unlikely).

if i remember right wes said at the time he was going make him a molester but at the time they was a story about a bunch of teachers in atlanta doing that to the kids

As a film maker, I have to say that Zombie Lake was one of the most artlessly made films I've ever seen.

I still enjoyed it though :cool:

I remember watching a movie years ago called 'Demon Cop', so bad it was hilarious!

I've seen so many bad horror movies, it would be hard to come up with a list of the worst ones. So here are a few more notable movies that I just can't stand.

- Bug
If this movie was made by Uwe Boll instead of William Friedkin, there would be message boards dedicated to how bad this movie really is. But since it is Friedkin, people praise it because he made two great movies 40 years ago.

- House of 1000 Corpses
I've heard Rob Zombie interviewed saying that "the studio heads were too freaked out from this movie, so I was able to obtain the rights to it". No Rob, it's because they didn't want to embarrass themselves by putting out a poorly made piece of dreck! Horrible dialogue ("Who's your daddy?" Really???), scenes that have nothing to do with the movie, and the most haphazard editing, with silly cut scenes, that just make you scratch your head wondering "Why?". Some of the scenes are just completely laughable. There's one part in the flick where Otis has a gun to an investigating deputy's head, there's a long, slow, pull away with the camera, trying to build up tension (I guess). And when he shoots the cop, the effect just fails. The gun is shot, a full seond later smoke goes off into a completely different direction in which the gun is pointed. Even Arlen Specter would've said "WTF?" if he saw this gun shot. Tommy Wiseau laughs at this movie!

- Halloween 2007
No, I'm not a ROb Zombie hater. I've seen White Zombie live probably 10 times in my life. I'm also not someone who thinks doing remakes is a blasphemous act. This movie is terrible without any preconceived bias or prejudice. Not to compare it to the original, but the great thing about Carpenters Halloween is it let you use your imagination. Why did Michael just up and decide to butcher his sister one night? Why is he a sociopath? A persons imagination can scare them more than a few frames of celluloid ever could. ROb kind of spoon feeds people a bunch of bullshit to make Michael the person he is. But he doesn't bother explaining how Michael went from a short chubby little blonde hair kid into a 8 foot tall behemoth. Were they feeding that kid horse steroids at the asylum? I guess not, just more terrible casting by Rob. And yeah, that's another thing. ROb tries to endear himself to horror fans, by making himself really available, for interviews and he casts actors from classic horror movies. It's called pandering and it isn't a reason to stick up for him. Being a hardcore horror fan, doesn't give you the talent to make a movie. If that was the case, I'd be Alfred Hitchcock.

- The Wicker Man 1973
I really shouldn't write this because I have yet to watch the entire movie. I always watch it to a certain point and then I have to turn it off. I get so frustrated because I'm looking to watch a horror movie, not South Pacific with pagans. It's hard to take a movie seriously when the cast of the movie breaks into song every 5 minutes.

Skyline
Final Destination 4
The Grudge 3
Prom Night (Remake)
Wrong Turn 4

there are many others but i just can't remember.

I too "liked" the august underground movies though I'm not sure "like" is the right word. I watched them so they must be entertaining on some level. It was actually The Poughkeepsie Tapes I despised and turned off after twenty minutes-a loathesome film on every level. Terrible dialogue, acting, "plot", killer and victims.completely unwatchable.

The Poughkeepsie tapes was a great idea, but the execution and editing were piss poor. And I think a lot of the bad acting was to make the people being interviewed throughout the movie seem genuine.

If you want to see a truely terrible shakey cam movie, I suggest 8213 Gacy House.

A mate of mine told me about 8213 Gacy house funnily enough he actually liked it but he also liked Poughkeepsie Tapes so I doubt I'll bother with it if its as bas as you say I couldn't even get through Poughkeepsie Tapes I found it unwatchable.

Yeah, if you couldn't get through Poughkeepsie Tapes, 8213 Gacy House will definitely have you throwing something large and heavy at your TV.

Some horror fans have no taste, and will enjoy any piece of dreck thrown in front of them. But watching bad horror movies is actually an important part of being a horror fan. It makes you appreciate the good ones even more.

sorry but you like august underground but did not like poughkeepsie tapes !!!
august underground had no story whatsoever, just rape killing and more rape, what was the story to that movie!!! just a bunch of hillbilly's raping women and kids. poughkeepsie tapes acting was so much better than august underground and i dont even like that movie lol. sorry just had to say my point on this fearonsarms, just dont get where your coming from on this one.

Hoboken Hollow (if memory serves) was absolute garbage.

I attempted watching Hugo recently and didn't quite make it over the line. What a boring shiece of pit!

I also get heat from the missus for making her watch The Church, but I actually loved it.

I have been working on this list for awhile and the list continues to grow. Fortunately, I have a good friend who considers himself a cinema masochist who believes at bad movie is the best movie. He gets off on watching the most horrific, badly directed, terrible acting movies. He also wants to one day make a youtube series where he exposes his unknowing friends to such movies. Anyway, with my experience. Here are my top 5 from least crap to unbearable crap factor. I will add trailers to give you guys a little taste.

5. Karate Cop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52DGW9oBS8

4. Hood Angels

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi634192665/

3. The Room (I would like to point out that although this is number three on crap factor, I think it is one of the best movies ever! I highly recommend you watch this movie right now.) This movie is so notorious that the director and star has become his own meme and stars in a video game show call the Tommy Wi-Show. Which I am sure most of you already know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCj8sPCWfUw

2. Birdemic: Shock and Terror (I have no comment, This would be number 1 if it wasn't for just one small thing.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE5dJDgZ644

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1. Troll 2 (This get's number 1 not for being the all around worst movie, but because of one scene that frustrated me no end when I saw it. I don't know what, but I had to throw the remote and storm out in shock in aw when I saw this. Probably because of the way he eats it was too lazy and fake... I finally broke one terrible movies. First the trailer, then the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE5dJDgZ644

Now, the cinema killer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su01dr7-RdA

There's a documentary about Troll 2 which is very aptly titled The Best Worst Movie. And yeah Troll 2 is really bad in an enjoyable sort of way, but NOTHING touches The Room. Tommy WIseau is just soo...... yikes! And instead of embracing his horrible acting writing, directing, etc, etc, etc... He now goes around saying that the movie was meant to be a Black Comedy. Which is total bullshit!
I've had long conversations about this flick and this is what my theory is on Tommy Wiseau. He probably came to this country back in the 80's, and he was probably a gigolo. Or one of these guys who would hook up with an old lady with money, and sponge off of her 'til he got kicked to the curb. He would probably go around telling everyone he's a director, screenwriter, etc.. and with that weird accent, people probably bought into it, "He might be the next Werner Herzog". SO anyway, time goes on, and from spending too many years lying around the pool, his skin starts getting all alligator-like, and he starts panicking "Oh shit! I'm losing my looks, and I have no 401k, I better try to get one of these old spinsters to produce a movie for me, so I have something to fall back on". Some woman gives him a few thousand, and he makes The Room.

And seriously, if The Room really was a dark comedy, it should;ve won every oscar that year, because there's NO WAY you can make a movie that bad on purpose! It's just not possible. I'd wish someone would call him on his shit and say "Here's some money, write another black comedy as funny as The Room". He'd never be able to do it. His delusions of having talent are what made The Room the beautiful disaster that it is.

Yeah that black comedy is such bs. I just love the movie. It never stops being funny to me.

You beat me to it lol :):):)Exactly what I was going to say.

Leezuki-Poughkeepsie Tapes has terrible acting, no character development and no rewards for persevering with it. August Underground does exactly what it says on the box, it gets into the minds of the killers and shows their full grotesque nature. The films are meant to be completely repugnant and that's why I was able to watch them. The effects are so outstanding that you really do think you are watching snuff movies. Poughkeepsie Tapes is piled high with cringe-inducingly awkward third party accounts that fail to even offer true insight into the killer, it's difficult to watch not due to the torture but because of it's direction and delivery which simply antagonizes the viewer as they feel cheated because they don't see anything they hoped to see-it's so lamely contrived that I find it unwatchable

That is very well put yes the bad films do make you appreciate the good ones more. To give an example-I'm a huge fan of Italian cinema but there have been some bad eggs even there so I won't just watch any Italian horror film. Though there's no possible way for you to avoid all bad movies (or films you personally think are bad) and that makes horror viewing exciting. Is the next film I'm going to watch be like classic Fulci or Argento or is it going to be painfully dull and forgettable like The Sister Of Ursula-that's the whole fun of it.

worse films are

dont be afraid of the dark
bug
the eye
the new daughter
awake
dark floors
crazy eights
christopher roth
panic button
freeway killer

all fuckin crap

I liked dont be afraid of the dark (I assume you mean the remake because the original one is great), the new daughter, awake and dark floors. Crazy Eights was horrible though. Havent seen the others.

Lately...

Final Destination 5

Huge joke. TFD has to be the easiest series ever to make decent. These movies have only had shocker deaths working for them after FD3 (which was pretty decent imo) and even FD5 didn't have cool deaths.

The Blair Witch Project 2 was probably one of the most pathetic movies I've watched.

I would agree with that

Ooof.. yeah, that was real bad. I kept watching that piece of crap, hoping that it would start making sense at some point. Never happened. It did have some cute women in it though

If you want to see a truely terrible movie see Chicago Massacre: RIchard Speck. I watched it the other night, and this morning it was playing on my tv when I woke up. And It's just soo god awful! I just went on IMDB to get the name of the actress who starred in it. And It all makes sense now. Here's a quote from her IMDB
biography:
I did not need to be told that! I saw the movie. It doesn't take a nursery school diploma to figure it out! My question is why didn't they audition her. I'm sure it has to do with her lack of gag reflex, but still. It's a fairly prominent role. Make her an extra, or the first killed. No, they made her the survivor girl. All she had to do is cry a little, get angry and and look sad for a few frames of the movie. What woman can't pull that off? I might need to look for a youtube clip now.

Bah! No youtube clips! But, I think I found something better. Seems like she might've got out of acting and become a realtor.When I put her name in youtube, it's got a few of her babbling about something, and all of the others are homes for sale by JChew. I know there are probably more than one Joanne Chew in the world, but I'm an optimist! I have to beleive it's her.

The new Day of the Dead.

The entire thing is beyond ridiculous. So, the Dawn remake has Ving Rhames, so naturally you would think the Day 'remake' staring the same actor would take up where Dawn left off, which actually would have been a cool concept. Even though it's implied at the end of Dawn that they all die. Instead we got whatever the hell that was. The sad thing is, I hear World War Z is going to be more similar to this catastrophe than anything else.

NOTLD 3D, I don't care if Sid is in it, it's tough to get through and not in a good way.

Oh, and Perkin's 14. The main reason I saw this one is because Michael Graves was in it. Turns out his role was as a pedophile, which was very disappointing.

I agree. I thought it would at least be similar to the first one, but boy- was I wrong. It seemed like they tried to make a documentary style but due to the plot, just kinda ended up being bad instead.

I know Halloween 3 will be in this thread but i actually didnt mind it. That is if you take the aspect of Myers out of it.

Lesser known but just as bad.....Partyline