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Tat2 01-19-2005 04:33 PM

Cannibal Holocaust info
 
Here is some info I found in the book "Beyond Horror Holocaust" by Chas. Balun:

Pgs. 59-60 "...At the films' world premire, Deodato (Director) was literally chased out of Columbia as rumors spread that he had actually killed native Indios on camera while his crew watched helplessly. Shortly after Cannibal Holocaust primered in his native Italy, a judge ordered the film sequestered. Later, Deodato was convicted under an old law forbidding animal cruelity. He was sentenced to several months in jail, probation, and forced to pay all expenses and legal fees. Deodato's professional reputation was sullied; he became a virtual pariah in the business and went without film work for years after the incident..."


It is also noted as "...what is arguably, The Greatest Cannibal Film Ever Made..."


FYI

Elvis_Christ 01-19-2005 04:57 PM

I'm still waiting for this tape to arrive :confused: Looking foward to it tho sounds great.

majorbludd 01-19-2005 05:25 PM

those were definitely live prarie dogs gettin carved up...that much is for sure

urgeok 01-20-2005 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Well, in fact it was a compilation tape compiled by Deep Red editor Chas Balun - his creation consisted of most of The Flower, The Flesh & The Blood, and this was reportedly the tape that fell into the hands of Mr Sheen.

If you ask me, he should get back to polishing furniture (Mr Sheen, not Mr Balun).

It may be surprising to learn some folk are perhaps not jaded or educated enough to know the truth of the "snuff" myth, but only a minority have done enough research on the subject to approach contentious titles such as Cannibal Holocaust with works of art in mind rather than real murder. It is perhaps a testament to the raw power of this film - look at the uproar it caused upon its release, and still does to this day.

Goes to show the power of the press, mind - and that most people have a requirement for "snuff" to exist on some level simply because of video technology and that it may be one of the most heinously humiliating acts of murder man could possibly commit.

i have a tough time seeing this as art ..
lets face it - exploitation is exploitation ..
anything that goes out of its way to shock via ultra realism will cause an uproar.
There are a lot of films 99% of the population have simply not heard about. And hardcore fans of the horor genre are not going to automatically dig this film or want to see it.

this is a movie for people who want to see taboos being broken ..
insane violence and nothing more.
People dont give a shit about the cinematography or the score or the quality of the acting .. they are getting off on the horrific images .. so be it .. i used to think that gross out horror was the coolest thing ever ... but i didnt once try to bullshit myself by looking for any kind of justification ..and then spouting it off to others.

Call it like it is ... its a poorly acted blood and guts film ,, that goes out of its way to shock the audience .. nothing more.

I'm not saying that there isnt a niche for this kind of film ... i wouldnt censor it (bar the animal slayings) but dont candy coat it as something it isnt .. (i'm not saying that you did this Extr3mist .. but others will.)

Vodstok 01-20-2005 05:32 AM

There is also a small jump from killing animals to killing people.
I find the thought of killing ANYTHING simply for entertainment barbaric, so you cant really blame someone for extrapolating that fact into possible human murder. Almost every serial killer on earth started off with animals before graduating to people.

That aside, just because you (freak) did your homework, and it is "painfully obvious" that this would NEVER happen.... Doesnt mean everyone thinks in those lines, and they are necesarrily stupid for thinking it.

There are still people who believe the jewish holocaust never happened. of course, they have never been to germany....


And we dont have to go too far back to beable to say something like:
"There is no way that guy raped a kid, he is a preist. No preist would ever do something like that..."

42ndStreetFreak 01-20-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
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this is a movie for people who want to see taboos being broken ..
insane violence and nothing more.
People dont give a shit about the cinematography or the score or the quality of the acting .. they are getting off on the horrific images .. so be it ..

Call it like it is ... its a poorly acted blood and guts film ,, that goes out of its way to shock the audience .. nothing more.

Speak for your damn self!!

YOU call it that. YOU.

And actually not all people who like extreme cinema treat it like shit on their shoes like you do.

Some of us DO and CAN give a shit about the score and the cinematography..as well as the extreme content.

Some Exploitation is delightfully fun trash and nothing more...
Some has more to it than JUST the exploitation...
And some is VERY well made from a purely cinematic point of view.

So just because you are narrow minded and can't see anything past the blood and guts, don't think everyone is down at your level.

ichi the killer 01-20-2005 09:51 AM

Mr 42nd you've gone too far! How can you slag off these horror fans! when i first saw CH i thought it was real as well.
Oh hold on i was 13 years old.
Shanks if you're interested i've got Jungle holocaust a kinda prequel to CH. Thats real as well if you want to buy it off me £10. mate.

urgeok 01-20-2005 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Speak for your damn self!!

YOU call it that. YOU.

And actually not all people who like extreme cinema treat it like shit on their shoes like you do.

Some of us DO and CAN give a shit about the score and the cinematography..as well as the extreme content.

Some Exploitation is delightfully fun trash and nothing more...
Some has more to it than JUST the exploitation...
And some is VERY well made from a purely cinematic point of view.

So just because you are narrow minded and can't see anything past the blood and guts, don't think everyone is down at your level.

well, if i was narrow minded i wouldnt have bought it ...
or explored all of the other films i could get my hands on.

I never once treated these films like shit on my shoes .. but i never paraded them arounds like cinematic treasures either.

If you're going to attempt to carry on an intelligent discussion you might want to read whats written and stop putting words and feelings and emotions into others mouths that werent there in the 1st place.

you're coming off as a bit of a prima donna here.

fucking condescending too...
believe it or not - your point of view isnt the definitive one.

42ndStreetFreak 01-20-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok

I never once treated these films like shit on my shoes ..

If you're going to attempt to carry on an intelligent discussion you might want to read whats written and stop putting words and feelings and emotions into others mouths that werent there in the 1st place.

Your point of view isnt the definitive one.

YOU might want to remember that last sentence yourself
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Call it like it is ... its a poorly acted blood and guts film ,, that goes out of its way to shock the audience .. nothing more.
Really? Says who?

And I would say that this remark (again you seem to also be talking for EVERYONE who watches these films) is treating the films (and those that watch them and like them) as nothing more than worthless shit....

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People dont give a shit about the cinematography or the score or the quality of the acting .. they are getting off on the horrific images ..
Like I said...speak for your narrowminded self. And as you can see i don't need to put words into y0our mouth they are there already.

Now why don't you and your little chums stop watching these films and do us and yourselves a big fat favour.
As comments like the above show you and your attitude up.

Vodstok 01-20-2005 11:06 AM

The only person being closed minded here is you, freak.

Since common, polite english doesnt seem to work for you., i will speak for us all and ask you to let it the fuck go.

And remember:
http://stresstest.2y.net/images/forum/retard.jpg


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