I've gotta ask....

Why doesn't Freddy v Jason count as a Nightmare film? (Aside from Nightmare not appearing in the title). If anything, we dump 'A new Nightmare' as being the redheaded stepchild. Freddy v Jason was more of a Nightmare film than that piece of crap.

The only inconsistencies were that Springwood wasn't the exact continuation of its condition in 'Freddy's Dead', but it didn't need to be.

The rest of it was pretty consistent. I defy you to find a series of slasher flicks that could keep the line as constant as Freddy v Jason did with the previous Nightmare flicks. (maybe the Saw films, but those were all made in the span of like 3 years and designed that way.... except for 4).

That "red-headed stepchild" is the second best Nightmate movie to date.

Seriously? :rolleyes:

I understand what Wes Craven was trying to do, but I don't think it worked, and I don't think it was a good idea to change the formula.

Second best? I rank it right there around part 2, which is at the bottom of my list.

I agree with that.

Matter of taste I suppose. But back to my original question, why isn't Freddy v Jason a 'real' nightmare movie? It maintained the story better than part 2 did, and certainly was a better movie than 2. It also stayed truer to the nature of Springwood than 'Freddy's Dead' ever did.

Because the movie is pretty much about Jason. At least from what I recall it is. Haven't watched it in a while.

It's more about Jason plotwise, but the overall feel/atmosphere is nothing like Friday the 13th - its Nightmare through and through.

I'm with the noobie on this one - its DEFINITELY more of a NOES flick than an F13.

Thanks for the backup The_Return. And although I am a n00b to this forum, I've been a fan of horror flicks since I was a very young kid. As a matter of fact, the first time I ever went to a movie was for my Bro's 11th birthday party (I was 6) and saw a double feature of Aliens and The Fly....

But back to the topic at hand.

I think the movie was more Jason-centric plotwise because Freddy wasn't strong enough to have a real hand in any of the deaths. He was more of the 'engineer' as it were. In fact, I think it's seen as a Jason centric plot because Jason was the 'Hero' (or anti-hero) and Freddy was most certainly the villain. This was probably the first time that Jason was something other than the bad guy, but Freddy maintained the same role he did throughout the series (except for New Nightmare...... I can't believe people thought that one was the second best flick!!).

Oh man, he's an old timer!

HA! Actually, I can't tell if that was sarcasm or sincerity. I'm 26, but certainly no stranger to horror.