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Haunted 12-13-2006 02:06 PM

I believe in a love that is always worthwhile... the love of nature, and defense of Her creations. (Just got a call from Defenders of the Wildlife thanking me for my efforts to save wolves and so on. That totally brought me out of a funk:) ).

Finally, (metaphorically speaking, anyway) I believe in having the last word.

Despare 12-13-2006 02:39 PM

I believe that instead of living like it was your last day on Earth, we should live like it was our loved ones' last day.

stubbornforgey 12-13-2006 02:49 PM

I believe that swear words were invented by a woman

Haunted 12-13-2006 04:37 PM

I believe that the aforemade post is true.

bwind22 12-13-2006 10:38 PM

I believe that everyone should try magic mushrooms or peyote at least 1 time in their life.

I believe that marijuana should be 100% decriminalized.

I believe that people who complain about smokers need to shut the fuck up and mind their own business. I don't hear too many smokers walking around telling non-smokers that they are too fat for their own good or that they shouldn't drive SUVs.

I believe the entire American political system is completely fucked, almost beyond repair.

I believe the income tax should be abolished. It was created to rebuild the country after the Civil War. I'd say that mission has been accomplished now for some time so Uncle Sam can stop taking my fuckin' money any day now.

I believe macaroni & cheese to be a gift sent directly from heaven.

I believe Bruce Lee would utterly destroy an enraged chimp in a fight to the death.

I believe Barrack Obama will win the US presidency in 2008. (Or at least I hope so!!!!)

Phalanx 12-14-2006 12:35 AM

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I believe that everyone should try magic mushrooms or peyote at least 1 time in their life.
Have done once...pretty fun, but I wouldn't make it a regular thing, but yeah, it's an experience. I'd add Salvia Divinorum extract to this list.

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I believe that people who complain about smokers need to shut the fuck up and mind their own business. I don't hear too many smokers walking around telling non-smokers that they are too fat for their own good or that they shouldn't drive SUVs.
But then, the nonsmokers "habits" don't as directly effect the health of those around them, whereas smoking can. Actually, not ALL smoking, just smoking (I'm sure this sounds unfair, but hey) in public. When you look at it, it's essentially a drug habit that's been made acceptable at large because a lot of people do it, and the govt. ok's in on account of profits...I personally believe that as such, it should be kept to the home and/or away from those that don't have a choice but to breathe it in. A far comparison, but it's almost like if a junkie were to stick you with a needle, and you had no choice in the matter.
The car driving thing isn't really something you can blame the consumers for either, more the companies for not making more environmentally sound products.
That said, my only beef with smokers is that a lot of them are inconsiderate, and consider their "wants" the be all and end all, fuck everybody else. I've said this before, but if one more person lights up right in front of me when I'm exiting a train or bus, they're gonna be spat on. Why? At least they don't have to INHALE my dirty habit.
But, I should point out here that I'm all for smokers only clubs/locations, I think that it's only fair with the eventual banning of public smoking, that if people continue to smoke (which face it, it's not looking like stopping anytime soon, it's their choice), that they should have locations for just that, just as us non-smokers should also.
I think if there's a mutual respect of rights, and the smoker/nonsmoker makes decisions based only on their own health, it's not a big problem. But...it's a mutual respect that has a long way to go yet. EG - If you're a nonsmoker, don't walk into a location/residence primarily occupied by smokers, and complain about it (and no, I'm not referring to "in public in general"), just the same if you're a smoker, don't go into nonsmoking residences and locations, and complain that you can't smoke.

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I believe that marijuana should be 100% decriminalized.
Damn straight. We've been through the ol' alcohol/weed thing so many times here, and I still stand by the simplest of arguments - if alcohol is legal with all the health/personality/fatality related issues it causes, weed should be too.
That said, I also believe that everyone that smokes weed ought to at least TRY vaporisation, it's a cleaner, less smelly, healthier, and believe it or not, more effective method.

I believe that cheese is just about one of the greatest culinary inventions ever.

I believe more people should ride bikes/walk, and less people should drive cars. Not only will it help with the lifestyle in general, it helps the environment too...I mean, within reason...you're not gonna walk/ride for AGES, but if it's just to the local shops (as I've seen many a driver do), help yourself and the world, walk or ride it.

I believe that the first person to think eating a potato was a good idea, was a brave person, that made a very great discovery.

I believe that everyone ought to take a little time out of each day to excersize, even if it's just jogging on the spot, doing pushups or the like...as long as it gets your blood and oxygen flow going, it's more'n nothing.

I believe that (especially in this day and age...with all the bullshit you see and hear about) there should be some form of liscensing to have a child/children. There should be means testing, criminal background checks, and mandatory short courses on conflict resolution, anger management, and parenthood in general. It's becoming clear that over half the people that pop out kids these days are either irresponsible as all fuck, or don't have a clue what they're doing...being as that'll only effect the kids in the end, I think parenthood ought to be a privaledge, not a right.

bwind22 12-14-2006 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Phalanx (Post 521822)
But then, the nonsmokers "habits" don't as directly effect the health of those around them, whereas smoking can. Actually, not ALL smoking, just smoking (I'm sure this sounds unfair, but hey) in public. When you look at it, it's essentially a drug habit that's been made acceptable at large because a lot of people do it, and the govt. ok's in on account of profits...I personally believe that as such, it should be kept to the home and/or away from those that don't have a choice but to breathe it in. A far comparison, but it's almost like if a junkie were to stick you with a needle, and you had no choice in the matter.
The car driving thing isn't really something you can blame the consumers for either, more the companies for not making more environmentally sound products.
That said, my only beef with smokers is that a lot of them are inconsiderate, and consider their "wants" the be all and end all, fuck everybody else. I've said this before, but if one more person lights up right in front of me when I'm exiting a train or bus, they're gonna be spat on. Why? At least they don't have to INHALE my dirty habit.
But, I should point out here that I'm all for smokers only clubs/locations, I think that it's only fair with the eventual banning of public smoking, that if people continue to smoke (which face it, it's not looking like stopping anytime soon, it's their choice), that they should have locations for just that, just as us non-smokers should also.
I think if there's a mutual respect of rights, and the smoker/nonsmoker makes decisions based only on their own health, it's not a big problem. But...it's a mutual respect that has a long way to go yet. EG - If you're a nonsmoker, don't walk into a location/residence primarily occupied by smokers, and complain about it (and no, I'm not referring to "in public in general"), just the same if you're a smoker, don't go into nonsmoking residences and locations, and complain that you can't smoke.


If you blame the auto companys for making the air toxic and not the consumers that buy & drive SUVs (Which incidently, if people weren't buying, automakers would stop making), then how can you put the blame of smoking on the consumers that buy & smoke them, but not the companys that produce them? I don't follow the logic there...

Ford makes SUV - Consumer buys SUV - SUV pollutes air & bodies
Camel makes cigarettes - Consumer buys cigarettes - Cigarettes pollute air & bodies

Where's the difference?

How can you blame the manufacturer of 1, but not the other? Neither product is entirely good, but the people that use them like them. If your reasoning is that you have to breathe in the second hand smoke, then you obviously havent been to Los Angeles or New York because you also have to breathe in the polluted air. And that is all day, everyday not just someone lighting up when you get off the bus.

I agree that there should be smoking bars & non-smoking bars & clubs or whatever because those have a tendancy to basically fill with smoke to the point that it sometimes even bothers those of us that do smoke, so I can entirely understand non-smokers objecting to somone smoking next to them indoors in public. Outdoors or in the home though... That is what I have an issue with.

Phalanx 12-14-2006 01:36 AM

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If you blame the auto companys for making the air toxic and not the consumers that buy & drive SUVs (Which incidently, if people weren't buying, automakers would stop making), then how can you put the blame of smoking on the consumers that buy & smoke them, but not the companys that produce them? I don't follow the logic there..
Oh, I blame the companies and every entity that profits from it as WELL, but...I think a little more "blame" (if you wanna call it that, I wasn't really bringing vehicles into it myself) could go towards smokers than drivers in general, considering vehicles are used for transportation or could at least arguably be used to transport a family around, whereas smoking is for the sole benefit of the smoker, and has no real "use" other than the chemical dependance.
One is useful, the other, is not.
Both destroy the environment and bring health down...I personally ride my mountainbike most places, so the whole "car" thing doesn't effect me one way or another. However, the amount that nonsmokers come into DIRECT contact with smoke is damn near unavoidable.
To me, the whole outdoors vs indoors thing doesn't quite gel either, I mean, when you're indoors in an area that smoking is accepted as the done thing, someplace that a nonsmoker wouldn't be able to say shit, all good...but when you're outdoors, inevitably you'll be in the path of nonsmokers too, public being "neutral ground" for lack of a better term, they have as much right to not smoke there, as you have to smoke there...hence the complaints about their complaints in these circumstances just go around in circles, what it comes down to is choice...but, I think you have to acknowledge that if you DO smoke outdoors, you effect other people, whereas if it was confined indoors, you effect only those that CHOOSE to put themselves in that situation...because when you're in public, however bad the auto companies make our environment, and breathing air, however bad that is, you're still making it worse, which is why there will always be these complaints.
One party feels they have the right to smoke, the other feels they have the right to fresh air, as unpoluted or poluted as it may already be...but when you really consider the ONLY factors in this particular discussion, A vs B, essentially, as long as you can effect the health of others and not just your own, it's not really an argument that would redefine smoking as anything other than a selfish habit...
As for in the home, if you're a smoker, you're a smoker, and it'd take a damn impolite son of a bitch to come into your residence and demand you stop.

Phalanx 12-14-2006 01:54 AM

I believe that coffee is a source of good and evil both at the same time

stubbornforgey 12-14-2006 03:11 AM

I believe i can fly!!!


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