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PR3SSUR3 08-15-2006 01:05 PM

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This whole bussiness of some people around here complaining about films other people like is really starting to anger me. At first I was like this, I admit. But I realized... how stupid I sound. It's fine to give YOUR opinion of something, but when you tell someone as a whole that the film THEY like is bad, and they have BAD taste for liking it. That's pushing it.

Just because someone has a different taste then you... does not mean their taste is 'bad'. Who's to say that yours isn't worse?

Taste is per person. I remember a quote from Miss Olivia, comparing our opinions to assholes. It was probably the most truthful thing I have ever heard

You don't want to say anybody is a cunt for liking The Descent, Pulse/Kairo, 28 Days Later or Shaun of the Dead, but it is asking too much to expect people to avoid giving a negative review to a film just because other people might like it.

If you might feel stupid in voicing your own negative opinion then that's too bad, but in a film discussion forum opinion is the cornerstone. It can be factual in reference to the technical shortcomings of a production, but even these are subjective if the viewer requirements are different.

I don't think anybody has said that folk have bad taste for liking a film, but as Alky has observed much of today's horror is trite and far too fluffy - movies have changed with the times over the decades, and the digital revolution has paved the way for glossy but empty rehashed concepts as PG-13 horrors and MTV ringtone ads begin to blend into one.

I think those with a good grasp of past and present horror are entitled to detract from whichever era they think is releasing the worst movies.

urgeok 08-15-2006 01:16 PM

never a bad thing to discuss not liking a film .. i think its the way some people do it ..


'film ABC SUCKS SHIT'

isn't the most compelling conversation ...

makes me personally believe they have no idea why they dont like it and possibly dont have any reason other than wanting to be contrary...or trollish..

you can't deny there is an element of folks that try to boost their own feelings of superiority but putting down whatever the others like ..

they usually cant provide a coherent reason why they dont like the film ..

just a total lack of credibility ..

The Mothman 08-15-2006 01:16 PM

Horror movies are a genre like no other. There are things that you see that you will never see in any other type of movies. many times unintentionally funny, which pretty much all other movies fail to do, and this is one of the only genre's where low budgetness really shows up, but thats what makes it great. what other type of genre has people playing keep away with a severed penis in it? horror movies are the #1 genre.


this is just my drunk self blabbering, but i think i made a good point either way. i cant really explain what it is about horror movies i like so much.

joshaube 08-16-2006 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
never a bad thing to discuss not liking a film .. i think its the way some people do it ..


'film ABC SUCKS SHIT'

isn't the most compelling conversation ...

makes me personally believe they have no idea why they dont like it and possibly dont have any reason other than wanting to be contrary...or trollish..

you can't deny there is an element of folks that try to boost their own feelings of superiority but putting down whatever the others like ..

they usually cant provide a coherent reason why they dont like the film ..

just a total lack of credibility ..

This is what I meant. When someone completely shits on anothers opinion of the film rudely and without reason other then the fact that THEY didn't like it.

The STE 08-16-2006 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by The Mothman
what other type of genre has people playing keep away with a severed penis in it?
Nowadays? Some gross-out comedy from 8 of the 12 writers of Scary Movie or something

Vodstok 08-16-2006 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by The STE
Nowadays? Some gross-out comedy from 8 of the 12 writers of Scary Movie or something
Scary Movie 7: White Little Chicks Scream Redux (Marlon needs new wiper blades)


Shawn Wayans returns toi the role that his brother gave him out of pity because his mom made him: SW1

its the future of comedy people, Live it.

alkytrio666 08-16-2006 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by joshaube
This is what I meant. When someone completely shits on anothers opinion of the film rudely and without reason other then the fact that THEY didn't like it.
...which I never did. Ever. Nor would I ever do, because I know that there are a few movies I love that others hate.

All I'm saying is that in my opinion the films listed in this thread as the good ones of the 00s are mediocre at best. To me, I see a downfall in respect as far as criticism and whatnot because of, frankly, a lack of caring. When was the last time you saw a horror movie nominated for anything at the Academy Awards? A damn long time ago. But it did happen. Movies such as The Exorcist and The Omen (1976) actually won Oscars. The AFI has several decades of classic horror movies in their "Greatest 100 American Movies" list. People respected them. Hell, people who hated horror could talk about them. My dad, who despises the genre, loves and talks frequently about The Omen whenever the subject of horror is brought up.

Do you really think, outside of us horror buffs, that in 30 years, regular movie-goers will be talking up Hostel to their kids? Do you think Saw will be added to AFI's list? Absolutely not.

This is my opinion, dig it or not.

CrimsonFiend138 08-18-2006 02:27 PM

Yeah The Fog sucked ass.

I was born in 87 so my genre is.....well everything but as far as the kids my age that are 18-19 are used to this crap they make now.

I mean that IS what everything is about money and as far as entertainment some can be, most are not.

It is the freakin' CGI and glossy image that was mentioned. Bah it's horrible they don't try :(


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