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ChronoGrl 07-09-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 818280)
Memories of Murder (2003)

Korean horror film directed by Joon-ho Bong.

Never heard of this guy before but I'm REALLY glad I watched this. Not your typical Asian horror movie at all. No tall women with long hair. No creepy kids with big eyes. No ghosts.

This is the story surrounding the investigation of Korea's first serial killer case. I don't know where to start here... Perhaps by mentioning the directorial finesse of Joon-ho Bong. He straddles a line between a very dark humor and deadpan seriousness with the assurance of a master. Expert at creating tension and surprise.

At first we're presented with the world's worst criminal investigative team. They trample evidence. They arrest the wrong people and torture confessions out of them. They plant evidence. When a detective from Seoul joins them on the case, they are jealous of his more sophisticated methods and try and discredit him.

There's a real visual flair to this film as well, along with some stunning visual metaphores. Many key scenes take place in the rain at night and they're shot with perfection.

The lead actor, Kang-ho Song, turns in such a nuanced performance I was awed. He portrayed his role, at first that of a bumbling corrupt cop, that transforms into a very sympathetic caring character. It was probably the best performance I've seen in an Asian movie (what ones I've seen, of course).

The story itself moves along at a brisk pace, always kept me interested, and revealed some deft touches, symbolism and depth.

Needless to say- I was extremely impressed.

Ashe- you will love this- check it out.

You too Chrono!

Maybe I'll get to watching it today and report back. I think we need more action up in this forum. ;) :D

Angra 07-09-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 818544)
Maybe I'll get to watching it today and report back. I think we need more action up in this forum. ;) :D


Not our fault they've stoped making good movies over there. :rolleyes:

psycho d 07-11-2009 06:41 AM

Sanjuro. Not sure if i liked this one more or less than Yojimbo, which i thought was awesome. i want to say that Yojimbo was better, but cannot for some reason. Ah, who cares anyway. Great flick.

Juon 2. Great sequel. Even creepier than the original. Loved the bleak atmosphere created here, and the ending was awesome. Great camera-work and disuninted scene sequencing.
Ashe.
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psycho d 07-12-2009 06:12 AM

The Hidden Blade. i typically despise love stories, but this samurai flick was worth it. The story was simple but solid. It was pretty slow going, but the historical setting was awesome if not hilarious, and such a slow pace allowed for the development of the main character. The fight scene was down-to-earth realistic, and movie's title came into its own at just the right time. Ashe.
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ChronoGrl 07-12-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by psycho d (Post 818961)
Juon 2. Great sequel. Even creepier than the original. Loved the bleak atmosphere created here, and the ending was awesome. Great camera-work and disuninted scene sequencing.
Ashe.
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Really? I started watching this one a while back, but for some reason it had the feel of a REALLY low budget, cheap horror flick to me (and not a good one). I turned it off when I got bored and had enough - Not your experience? Is it worth turning on again? I honestly loved the original Ju-On, the remake, and Shimizu's Rinne as well... Ju On 2 didn't grab me, though... Maybe I should give it a second chance?


...

Watched Memories of Murder on Friday, and don't really have much to add to what NE and Roshiq have already said...

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 818280)
There's a real visual flair to this film as well, along with some stunning visual metaphores. Many key scenes take place in the rain at night and they're shot with perfection.

The lead actor, Kang-ho Song, turns in such a nuanced performance I was awed. He portrayed his role, at first that of a bumbling corrupt cop, that transforms into a very sympathetic caring character. It was probably the best performance I've seen in an Asian movie (what ones I've seen, of course).


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Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 818295)
Instead of focusing on the murder scenes and shocking images like most other conventional serial killer films, the movie puts much more time and details into the story, characters and the situation of the time the incidents took place... Intense humor, brilliant cinematography, excellent character developments with the incredible casts delivered in perfect way by the director Joon-ho Bong.


The movie was gorgeous. The period and cultural piece of being able to look close up at the unprepared police department as they struggle to bring in the killer - by any "means" necessary - The incredible acting job of Kang-ho Song (who is equally as amazing in Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance - NE GO SEE IT!) - all came together to form a fascinating, well-directed film.

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But I am not sure that investigative/crime/"thriller" movies are necessarily my cup of tea. I can't knock the movie per se, but I was bored at times. I can see where the movie is utterly brilliant, but I thought it dragged (though again, I think it's more my disinterest in the genre, not a fault of the film)... I would recommend it to people, but I don't think it's something that I could sit down and watch again.

3.5/5

adamstubbs 07-17-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 819179)
Really? I started watching this one a while back, but for some reason it had the feel of a REALLY low budget, cheap horror flick to me (and not a good one). I turned it off when I got bored and had enough - Not your experience? Is it worth turning on again? I honestly loved the original Ju-On, the remake, and Shimizu's Rinne as well... Ju On 2 didn't grab me, though... Maybe I should give it a second chance?

I'd say definitely give it a second chance. Ju-On 2 is actually my favorite of all the Ju-On & Grudge films out there. I just like the odd space/time jumps in the film.

Angra 07-18-2009 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by adamstubbs (Post 820190)
I'd say definitely give it a second chance. Ju-On 2 is actually my favorite of all the Ju-On & Grudge films out there. I just like the odd space/time jumps in the film.



Are you talking Ju-on 2 or Ju-on:The grudge 2?

adamstubbs 07-18-2009 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 820205)
Are you talking about Ju-on 2 or Ju-on:The grudge 2?

Ju-On 2 (Japanese)

I only refer to the American productions as The Grudge.

Angra 07-18-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by adamstubbs (Post 820222)
Ju-On 2 (Japanese)

I only refer to the American productions as The Grudge.

You do know the japanese series consists of:

Ju-on
Ju-on 2
Ju-on: the grudge 1
Ju-on: the Grudge 2

Right?

And half of Ju-on 2 is pretty much the last half of the first one with about 35 minutes of new ideas added. Which, to me, makes it the worst of the Japanese Ju-ons.

adamstubbs 07-18-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 820256)
You do know the japanese series consists of:

Ju-on
Ju-on 2
Ju-on: the grudge 1
Ju-on: the Grudge 2

Right?

And half of Ju-on 2 is pretty much the last half of the first one with about 35 minutes of new ideas added. Which, to me, makes it the worst of the Japanese Ju-ons.

You do know that everyone has different opinions and I love Ju-On 2 no matter what you or others might think. Deal with it.

zwoti 07-18-2009 08:36 PM

yo-yo girl cop
house of fury

Angra 07-18-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by adamstubbs (Post 820291)
You do know that everyone has different opinions and I love Ju-On 2 no matter what you or others might think. Deal with it.

I think you're wrong on that one.

But whatever..

adamstubbs 07-19-2009 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 820306)
I think you're wrong on that one.

But whatever..

I'm wrong about people having differing opinions on certain movies? What are you smoking?

And for any confusion, I was referring to this film...

Ju-On 2

psycho d 07-19-2009 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 820256)
And half of Ju-on 2 is pretty much the last half of the first one with about 35 minutes of new ideas added. Which, to me, makes it the worst of the Japanese Ju-ons.

From a movie-making point of view you are most correct, but from a movie-experience point of view Ju-on 2 creeped me out more, making it a more enjoyable experience for me. JMHO. Ashe.
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HostelSaw 07-19-2009 07:36 AM

I have only ever seen one and it was "One Missed Call"

Angra 07-19-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by adamstubbs (Post 820340)
I'm wrong about people having differing opinions on certain movies? What are you smoking?

And for any confusion, I was referring to this film...

Ju-On 2


Yea, that's what i thought.

That one you're linking to is Ju-on: The Grudge 2.

So stop acting like a stubborn insulted jackass and listen to what i'm actually saying. There are 4 japanese ju-on movies and Ju-on 2, which is NOT the one you're linking to, is the worst of the 4 for the before mentioned reasons.

Don't believe me? Look up Takashi Shimizu on IMDB.

adamstubbs 07-19-2009 10:52 AM

Go fuck yourself angra

Angra 07-19-2009 02:02 PM

That's more like it. :)

psycho d 07-20-2009 05:08 AM

And now something totally different...

Samurai II: Duel at Ichijoji Temple. This second installment continues to build up nicely. There is much more action than in the first, and the love story keeps getting more convoluted. Toshiro's character begins to show some growth towards being a true samurai. Ashe.
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ChronoGrl 07-20-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 820388)
Yea, that's what i thought.

That one you're linking to is Ju-on: The Grudge 2.

So stop acting like a stubborn insulted jackass and listen to what i'm actually saying. There are 4 japanese ju-on movies and Ju-on 2, which is NOT the one you're linking to, is the worst of the 4 for the before mentioned reasons.

Don't believe me? Look up Takashi Shimizu on IMDB.

That actually clears up a bit for me... I think the one that I tried to watch was Ju-on 2 and not Ju-on: The Grudge 2. Ju-on 2 I thought was boring and looked pretty cheap. I will have to find the latter. Thanks. :)

Angra 07-20-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 820535)
That actually clears up a bit for me... I think the one that I tried to watch was Ju-on 2 and not Ju-on: The Grudge 2. Ju-on 2 I thought was boring and looked pretty cheap. I will have to find the latter. Thanks. :)

No problem. :)

psycho d 07-22-2009 04:56 AM

Art of the Devil II. Horrible dubbing, cheap production, and chunky storyline. Still, it was brutal enough to be decent, and the twists kept it interesting. Ashe.
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psycho d 07-23-2009 05:23 AM

Jigoku. Not sure what to make of this one. The first 2/3 of the movie set up the last third perfectly, but the last third took forever. My take is that this is a good movie that is not very enjoyable. It also reeks of Japan's desire to appear Westernized. Ashe.
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ChronoGrl 07-23-2009 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by psycho d (Post 820957)
Art of the Devil II. Horrible dubbing, cheap production, and chunky storyline. Still, it was brutal enough to be decent, and the twists kept it interesting. Ashe.
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Do you need to see Art of the Devil I before watching this one?

P.S. I always love your sigs - Where do you find the images?

psycho d 07-24-2009 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 821311)
Do you need to see Art of the Devil I before watching this one?

P.S. I always love your sigs - Where do you find the images?

The two flicks are not related so you could easily see the second without seeing the first. Also, those pics are from Joel-Peter Witkin, a photographer that was infamous for using corpses and freaks of nature as models. Just google his name and you will find lots of sick stuff. He also has a couple of photo books out there that are amazing (but $$$). Ashe.
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ChronoGrl 07-24-2009 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by psycho d (Post 821473)
The two flicks are not related so you could easily see the second without seeing the first. Also, those pics are from Joel-Peter Witkin, a photographer that was infamous for using corpses and freaks of nature as models. Just google his name and you will find lots of sick stuff. He also has a couple of photo books out there that are amazing (but $$$). Ashe.
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Thanks. I've been meaning to check out Art of the Devil II on Netflix instant for a while. Mayhaps I shall this weekend.


Also thanks for Witkin's name - That's the sort of twisted art that my boyfriend and I aspire to collect. I think I found a new obsession.

zwoti 07-25-2009 10:41 AM

kung fu dunk

roshiq 07-25-2009 11:05 PM

Black Magic Woman (2004)

After moving into a new apartment a girl working in a Ad firm begins to receive some gifts of black magic instruments that she uses to avoid misconducts against her and take advantages in her personal & professional life. But however she is unaware of the negative effects, in the end, she becomes the victim of her own salvation.

A low budget Thai horror film probably made for TV.

>>: C

psycho d 07-26-2009 05:32 AM

Seven Samurai. Not that i am qualified to make this assertion, but this was nothing short of an epic masterpiece. Kurosawa is absolutely amazing. Ashe.
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psycho d 07-28-2009 05:50 AM

Samurai Trilogy 3: Duel at Ganryo Island. An incredible last installment to this wonderful trilogy. Inagaki is definitely on par with with Kurasawa. Ashe.
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ChronoGrl 07-28-2009 06:38 PM

Gui si (Silk)

Solid little Chinese ghost movie. Good suspense, decent character piece, and the ghosts are nicely done. Not a perfect movie, but definitely worth a looksee. It definitely surprised me how much I enjoyed it.

3.5/5

Now on Comcast On Demand:
Free Movies > By Category > Independent

roshiq 07-29-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 822452)
Gui si (Silk)

Solid little Chinese ghost movie. Good suspense, decent character piece, and the ghosts are nicely done. Not a perfect movie, but definitely worth a looksee. It definitely surprised me how much I enjoyed it.

3.5/5

I was looking for its dvd for quite a long time and lately I have found one at a dvd store but what a pity...it has no subtitle!:mad:

Three /
Three Extremes II
(2002)

A horror anthology consisting of three segments by three directors from three countries.

Memories (Korea)
A man goes to a psychiatrist to try to remember what happened the day his wife disappeared from his life. Meanwhile, a woman wakes up and finds herself lying on a deserted road, having no idea how she got there in the first place. She tries to find her way home. Separately, they begin to regain their memories of what happened.

It's from the maker of A Tale of Two Sisters but this is mediocre at best with few decent shock tactics. At the beginning it looked pretty good but the end product left me unsatisfied.
C+

The Wheel (Thai)
The story deals about cursed puppets in a rural background. The weakest segment of this anthology.
C-

Going Home (Hong Kong)
While searching for his missing son, a cop, Wai, finds himself detained by his neighbor Yu in his apartment. Through Chinese medicine, Yu has been tending to the body of his dead wife for three years; apparently believing that his wife will revive in a day or two so they can go home together.

Comparing with the other two, this is the best overall of the bunch. It's not a typical creepy Asian piece for the most part, but despite the production values, the direction makes great use of its setting and limitations. This is a multi layered story but the sad thing is they only clarified the major one, not the other part that connected to a major character and also helped the beginning to start. Otherwise, it's the one that makes this collection worth watching.

**Spoiler**
what happened to the little boy? It seems the little girl was the couple's unborn child, but why could the little boy see her, and what happened to him? what did the photographer's studio have to do with the story?
**Spoiler end**
B+

Overall...: C+

psycho d 07-29-2009 05:17 AM

Cure (1997). Slowly paced psychological drama. Not really a thriller, but still quite enjoyable. The lead character is very well developed. The storyline is fine. The ending perplexed me a bit; not sure if it was just a fun and abrupt ending or if it had some subtle, symbolic, or abstruse (to me at least) significance. Seems it got some bad reviews for not being as incredible as Kurosawa's Kairo, which is silly. Definitely worth a watch. Ashe.
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ChronoGrl 07-29-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 822525)
I was looking for its dvd for quite a long time and lately I have found one at a dvd store but what a pity...it has no subtitle!:mad:

Three /
Three Extremes II
(2002)

A horror anthology consisting of three segments by three directors from three countries.

Memories (Korea)
A man goes to a psychiatrist to try to remember what happened the day his wife disappeared from his life. Meanwhile, a woman wakes up and finds herself lying on a deserted road, having no idea how she got there in the first place. She tries to find her way home. Separately, they begin to regain their memories of what happened.

It's from the maker of A Tale of Two Sisters but this is mediocre at best with few decent shock tactics. At the beginning it looked pretty good but the end product left me unsatisfied.
C+

The Wheel (Thai)
The story deals about cursed puppets in a rural background. The weakest segment of this anthology.
C-

Going Home (Hong Kong)
While searching for his missing son, a cop, Wai, finds himself detained by his neighbor Yu in his apartment. Through Chinese medicine, Yu has been tending to the body of his dead wife for three years; apparently believing that his wife will revive in a day or two so they can go home together.

Comparing with the other two, this is the best overall of the bunch. It's not a typical creepy Asian piece for the most part, but despite the production values, the direction makes great use of its setting and limitations. This is a multi layered story but the sad thing is they only clarified the major one, not the other part that connected to a major character and also helped the beginning to start. Otherwise, it's the one that makes this collection worth watching.

**Spoiler**
what happened to the little boy? It seems the little girl was the couple's unborn child, but why could the little boy see her, and what happened to him? what did the photographer's studio have to do with the story?
**Spoiler end**
B+

Overall...: C+

I agree with you mostly on Three... Extremes II, though I actually liked The Wheel. I didn't think it was amazing or anything, but I was just fascinated by the Thai cultural folklore aspect of it. It was also fascinating to see the pure Thai rural life - I guess it caught my attention from that aspect. That's one of the things that I like about foreign films; even if the movie isn't that great, I enjoy just soaking up a culture that I haven't been exposed to very much.

I LOVED the third film, but I agree with you about the holes. I'm not sure if it was a bad translation, but that (what you mentioned in your spoiler) did NOT make sense to me at all and I thought that they could have done without it. Regardless, I particularly loved the ending to that film - it definitely caught me by surprise, which is always nice. :)

roshiq 07-29-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 822781)
I LOVED the third film, but I agree with you about the holes. I'm not sure if it was a bad translation, but that (what you mentioned in your spoiler) did NOT make sense to me at all and I thought that they could have done without it. Regardless, I particularly loved the ending to that film - it definitely caught me by surprise, which is always nice. :)

Ditto...:)

DeadAtSea 07-30-2009 12:22 AM

Asian Movie
 
Does a Porno count? lol. j/k last movie was Ringu.

psycho d 07-30-2009 05:50 AM

Rashomon (1950). A brilliant Kurosawa flick centering on the deceptive nature of man in the ever present need to be seen in the most favorable light possible. Toshiro marvelously performed his part with playful exuberance. Ashe.
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psycho d 07-31-2009 06:29 AM

Nang Nak (1999). Great flick about Thai folklore. The cinematography was at times rather breathtaking, appropraiately dark at other times. Not really a scary flick, at least for actual jump out of your seat scares. Instead it was scary in concept, or rather in its essence. i think the overall message about the potential evil of born of attachment was inspirational though wickedly dark. Ashe.
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psycho d 08-01-2009 05:42 AM

Retribution(2006). This flick from Kurasawa may actually approach the depths of fear and suffering explored in Kairo. In this movie, he seems to explore the fears of becoming insignificant after death. While the effects are at times almost cheesy, this did not detract from the film. The lead actor was perfectly cast as a gritty though committed detective, while his partner was splendidly grounded and stolid. The story was good, and when it seemed to come to an end, there was still much more to it. Overall, i really liked this one, though it may not be for everyone. Ashe.
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psycho d 08-04-2009 05:23 AM

2LDK.. The scenes in this flick are like a series of coke cans, the first opened delicately , the rest opened after having been shaken up, where each subsequent can is shaken more than it predecessor, until the cans in the finale come straight out of a paint mixing machine. It then ends in poetry.
Ashe.
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