well, like i said before - whenever there has been oppression - there is always a natural swing of the pendulum far the other way ...

it takes a while to find the balance so there's going to be some instances of extremes.

i know where you're coming from - i just dont worry too much about it.

Toronto has a huge gay pride parade. i've never been but people love it - to me its a big sign of tolerance - people - including straight folks - have been having a lot of fun with the event and i do believe it has a positive effect on acceptance.


school is usually the first place kids are discovering their sexuality - i'm all for tolerance being promoted in schools .. god knows a lot of parents wont do it.

It's like racism or anything else.

"Treat us equally!"

"Wait... we want extra stuff too. You have to hire us."

"We're all human beings! We all bleed when we're pricked do we not?"

"Oh, hey, I think we need a month of history just for us."

"Don't look at us as homosexuals, just look at us as people!"

"While we're at it we're going to have a giant parade to celebrate the fact that we enjoy sleeping with the same sex."

"Oi vey, we went through some shit in Egypt... and even more in Germany. Don't hate us based on our religious beliefs!"

"No really, we just want to be treated equally."

Ok, so maybe not EVERYTHING else.

But sex shouldn't be a factor in school anyway. If I was in high school still and walked around reminding everybody I liked to have sex with women I'd be suspended. Either way it's bad, straight OR gay.

Slightly off topic but in the United Kingdom, we have something called the MOBO Awards. Heard of it? Music Of Black Origin Awards! Literally, only black musicians can win it! But it's allowed! Imagine the uproar if there were MOWO awards that only white people could win! And what would the asians have?

good or bad ... it's a fact of life - you cant turn back the tide - it happens.
(teen sexuality)

i didnt go around talking about it out loud but i'm not sure if i had a single thought about anything else the whole time i was in high school.

and i have the marks to support that :D

I see it as Being proud of who you are is good, forcing other people to listen to you be proud isn't soo good. Yeh, don't keep it all hushed up but I do get a little miffed when people get in your face about who they are.

I think sexuality should be taught by parents, but the simple fact is that it doesn't always happen. If it's not taught in school, we'd have probably half the population walking around ignorant to things like STDs and pregnancy.

I do have an issue with public schools starting it too young though. We had sex ed in 4th grade and I've read there are schools starting as early as 1st or 2nd grade. At that age, all they really need to know is 'good touch, bad touch'. Not how to perform intercourse or apply a condom.

hell yes !


just think of me as a canoe, or life raft .. or a log ride.

or anything else dirty you can think of.

They stand up for themselves just as I would if millions of people did not approve of my sexuality and they had to degrade me as a human being. What if being straight was 'immoral?' I would stand up for myself and be proud of what I am too. If it weren't for so many people's disgust and disapproving they wouldn't need to draw attention to their way of life. Maybe they are tired of getting shunned. Maybe if so many people didn't see them as freaks they wouldn't need to stand up. They are only doing this to be on the same level as the rest of the world instead of being frowned upon, and with that they are succeeding.

At my school, when I was in year 5 (which I believe would make the same age as a 4th grader), they began learning about things like puberty. It wasn't until the following year we began learning about actual sexual intercourse, though I think my entire class was already well aware of everything to do with it.

I think there are two sides to the story of it being to young. 1st or 2nd graders being taught it at that age has a benefit in that it doesn't seem strange or scary to them, and they are well informed. But then, them knowing about it at such a fragile age could lead them to do...shall we say...silly things they don't really understand about. And it's introducing them to the real, sometimes scary world a bit soon, taking a piece of their such precious childhood innocence. I personally think that is way too early.

I agree they should stand up for themselves to make themselves seem equal, but some take it to a level where they are pretty much making themselves believe they are better. But definetely, there should be some pride there. But respect for views works both ways, and some of them don't seem to grasp that. Same for people who are so straight they make a motorway seem like a roundabout.

I look at gay pride the same as any other kind of pride people have about their identities. No one seems to have problems with Latinos having their parade to celebrate their culture and identity. I think it's great when people take pride in themselves and celebrate who they are.

I agree 100% with you

I would like to see the reactions to a "Straight White Men" parade.

It's not the pride or the pride parades that I have a problem with, it's the way it seems to increase the feeling that we're not all equals. And as you said, people have no problem with latinos, they wouldn't with black people, asians, gay people etc. But if there was a pride parade exclusively for white english or white american people, it would be seen as a Racist statement of people going for supremacy. I just wish all of the things that keep people seeing differences would go, and we'd all just be people, all of us proud of ourselves and eavh other. Each one different to the next, but all equal. But I suppose, due to the stubbornness and bigotry of some people, maybe pride parades etc. are the way to go about it. I'm not sure.

You're not celebrating your heritage, you're celebrating who you like to fuck.

After Obama, maybe we'll elect a lesbian to the Oval Office and then people will start to realize that majority of Americans do consider everyone equal.

Love the banner ad on the top of the page by the way. I hope you all took the quiz...

The "are you gay?" one?

I was diagnosed straight haha

Why shouldn't we all celebrate the people we like to fuck? I bet my boyfriend would love if I threw him a parade :-P

Seriously though, if people were proud of being white or straight or whatever, I wouldn't care if they wanted to have their own parades. White people just tend to narrow their pride into their nationalities or heritages like Irish/Celtic Parades or Germanic Parades.

I think it might be cool if instead of gay pride parades they just called them free love parades or something, and everyone could celebrate who they love/want to fuck...then straight people could be included and the whole equality issue here could be solved.

NiKKie=Banned. Can't say I didn't see that one coming a mile away. Bet they're glad they signed up 5 years ago just to turn up today, make a jackass of themself and get shown the door. :rolleyes:

Let's pass out some acid and dance around with our flowers too hippie. ;)

Pass it over here.

i think there is a big annual love parade - celebration somewhere in europe...

germany maybe ?

In Germany you say?
Sure you got the word "annual" right?
Heh.

I would be so all about that.

i googled it - i was right - it's in Berlin


found a link that lists other love parades as well :

http://www.pbase.com/ilanphoto/parades

I think Cheebs was going for an "anal" joke.

I could be wrong.....its happened before

I did too...

well, i knew that :)

i thought i'd just take the opportunity to see if i was right about germany - or if i dreamed it :)

You have a lot of these "gay parade" dreams ?

http://www.photo.net/photo/pcd0155/gay-parade-32.jpg

Let's see...

"club" incident in Battle Royale - check,

"duck" and "goose" interchangeable - check,

leather licky pic - check,

really "hot" pic of gay parade just above - check.


I would agree, guys.

hey man - i'm not the one who posted that pic .. christ !

I think maybe the reason I don't like it when people have these exclusive things is because political correctness and things like that have gone mad in England. You can barely call someone black now without being seen as a racist! :confused:
Two years ago, it was illegal to have christmas decorations up in any workplaces in case it offended people! They don't call advent calenders advent calanders anymore, they're seasonal chocolate calanders! It's insane. Really pisses me off, considering this is a Christian country, and they have no hangups about other faiths practising and celebrating their religion. I don't care either, it's great to have diversity. But they for some reason think if we don't get rid off everything we believe in and only have the others, we're offending them. It's one rule for us, and another for them. I don't blame the people who have these other faiths or nationalities. It's the idiots in the government.

I love gay men. Yes, I am comfortable enough in my sexuality to admit such a thing. I think they're fantastic, entertaining (when flamboyant) and a lot of them are pretty hot.

It's just like that in America. It's awful.

You have the term African-American instead of Black, but White people are still called White. Either have it Black and white or call White people European-Americans. It's this double-standard that irritates me.

We are also not allowed to say Christmas or anything like that anymore either. Christian Christmas symbols are obviously out, but Santa is now deemed inappropriate as well. All you're allowed to say is "Holiday" with winter imagery like holly and snow.

Damn liberals. :cool:

tee hee....silly me..I meant to post that in the "post a pic of yourself" thread

very good point there watson. Its pc gone mad

Are you the guy that is spray painted gold?

The war on Chirstmas is bullshit. It's a national fuckin' holiday! As soon as it became a national holiday, saying 'Merry Christmas' became like saying 'Happy 4th of July' or 'Happy Thanksgiving'. If someone doesn't want to recognize it as the birthday of Baby Jesus, they don't have to (no one is forcing them to) but they shouldn't complain when someone says 'Merry Christmas' to them or they see a Christmas tree in a public area.

South Park has a great, older episode about this. Everyone in town takes offense to stuff in the school's Christmas pangeant so they keep taking things out until the final result is a bunch of kids in black leotards doing some interpretive dance to bizarre non-lyrical music. Then the whole town complains that the pageant sucked that year.

Fuck 'Happy Holidays' and 'Seasons Greetings', tell people 'Merry Christmas!' this year and watch their jaws drop at your unbelievably large balls.