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ferretchucker 05-02-2007 07:17 AM

sorry bwind but that wouldn't work. In england we have U - Universal, PG - parental guidance (in otherwords you 'can see it but parents may want to consider letting you), 12a - anyone under twelve needs a parent with them,
15 - you must be 15 or over to see it. No exceptions and 18 - same as 15 but have to be 18 instead (go figure)

the_real_linda 05-02-2007 12:11 PM

i saw this on his myspace blog.....thought it was a cool idea.....id love to take my sis but shes 8.....she couldve been a mini michael...and yep its a pain in the uk with the ratings....still dont get why they changed from 12 to 12a......i saw 15s when i was 12 and 18s when i was 16......tho i look really young still for a 19 year old id go with my father.....u pass as an adult so much easier if ur with an adult and u stay in the background


like when final destination came out i was 13...and some kids infront of me who had bought tickets got stopped before going into the screen by the rip-ticket-guy......and they looked older than me (it was only a 15) but i walked straight in cause i was with my father.

Mictlantechutli 05-02-2007 12:14 PM

Who's gonna dress up in a costume to go see a movie? I'm a film nerd, but that's way too geeky for even me. That's just as bad as dressing as a jedi or a fucking hobbit to go to the movies.

I'll be there opening day, and I'll be pointing and laughing at anyone and everyone who does this:D

the_real_linda 05-02-2007 12:34 PM

its such a cool publicity stunt.........but i could never do it.......if it opened on halloween night.........which why dosent it? then itd would work

AmericanManiac 05-02-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mictlantechutli (Post 597541)
Who's gonna dress up in a costume to go see a movie? I'm a film nerd, but that's way too geeky for even me. That's just as bad as dressing as a jedi or a fucking hobbit to go to the movies.

I'll be there opening day, and I'll be pointing and laughing at anyone and everyone who does this:D

thats because your an asshole :D

Mictlantechutli 05-02-2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanManiac (Post 597557)
thats because your an asshole :D

a distinct possibility:p

can't get enough gore 05-02-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 596962)
gore, it thought me and you weren't old enough? That is...if you really are 13! Because it's an 18 film and i'm only 14, i'll just walk around town dressed as myers.

All I have to do is get my cousin to take me(he's 22)

Besides I wouldn't let something like a R rating stop me ;)

can't get enough gore 05-02-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanManiac (Post 597018)
well ifyou are tall enough wear the mask when you buy your ticket ;)

I'm about 5'10"-5'11"

I get tall pretty quickly...besides if I saw micheal myers(even though he is not real) I would just let him through cause I would be scared lol

can't get enough gore 05-02-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanManiac (Post 597557)
thats because your an asshole :D

Burned!!!

Anyway I think it is fun to see whether you can scare a few people...I once chased 15 yr. old girls around my neighborhood with my mikey costume....People are scared too easily

AmericanManiac 05-02-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by can't get enough gore (Post 597586)
Burned!!!

Anyway I think it is fun to see whether you can scare a few people...I once chased 15 yr. old girls around my neighborhood with my mikey costume....People are scared too easily

This past halloween I had my freddy mask, hat, sweater, pants and work boots on I stood still on my front pourch and my fiance was in a chair with the candy, little kids wouldn't come up. When they finally started in I stepped forward and sent them off running, :p

@Mictlantechutli Your right I would do it if I seen starwar freaks oops..... I mean geaks :p

can't get enough gore 05-03-2007 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AmericanManiac (Post 597609)
This past halloween I had my freddy mask, hat, sweater, pants and work boots on I stood still on my front pourch and my fiance was in a chair with the candy, little kids wouldn't come up. When they finally started in I stepped forward and sent them off running, :p

@Mictlantechutli Your right I would do it if I seen starwar freaks oops..... I mean geaks :p

I walked up to a house to get candy(BTW what is this bullshit about you are too old to get candy..luckily my parents never told me that)and the woman opened the door and there was this 3 year old, he started crying when he saw me:p.

I had a friend who knew it was me under that mask but he was still scared shitless:)

ferretchucker 05-03-2007 07:05 AM

My oldest sis saw Halloween ressurection with her bf in America and she said these guys came intogether but one sat in the row infront. She thought this was weird but ignored it. Halfway through, a woman screamed and my sister turned. One of the guys had got up wearing a myers costume, the other started playing the theme on his mini tape player and the guy in the costume had one of those knives that goes into the handle and was stabbing the other guy who had let off a blood pouch. He pretended to be dead and the michael guy walked out to thundering appluase. I wish I was there!

can't get enough gore 05-03-2007 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 597833)
My oldest sis saw Halloween ressurection with her bf in America and she said these guys came intogether but one sat in the row infront. She thought this was weird but ignored it. Halfway through, a woman screamed and my sister turned. One of the guys had got up wearing a myers costume, the other started playing the theme on his mini tape player and the guy in the costume had one of those knives that goes into the handle and was stabbing the other guy who had let off a blood pouch. He pretended to be dead and the michael guy walked out to thundering appluase. I wish I was there!

sounds cool

_____V_____ 08-29-2007 08:02 AM

Zombie's Halloween...disappoints!
 
Yes I have seen it last night. Dont ask how and where...

And many of you might be queueing in front of your local theaters in a couple days time...so I wont spoil it for you. Its fairly obvious to assume that Zombie's earlier offerings will have an effect on the remake...and thats how it is. Its like watching The Devil's Rejects, with Michael's storyline thrown in. The script and dialogues are virtually the same...and that is not the only downer for Zombie's offering.

There's almost no suspense or foreboding...Michael is basically a terminator-esque unstoppable killing machine...the body count is very high...and the background built up by Zombie for Michael is...a huge letdown. Which brings forth the pretty obvious question (and the casting of Tyler Mane into the limelight) - how could Michael become so big and strong while spending 15 years in a padded up cell?

The movie lacks one big factor the original had - atmosphere. There is NONE of that here. I wont go in any further...most of you will see it and then form your own conclusions...as for me, even when being a huge gorehound...Zombie's Halloween doesnt click it, even with the gracious gore.

Now to catch James Wan's Death Sentence come Friday...

AmericanManiac 08-29-2007 08:23 AM

I'm jealous that you've got to watch it already! I'm looking forward to this film, and thanks for not letting any spoilers ruin it for us!

illdojo 08-29-2007 09:52 AM

I've got sneak preview passes for Thursday night.
___V___, I hope our opinions differ, but you're usually spot on. ;)
What a bummer. I had high hopes for this film. :(

_____V_____ 08-29-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by illdojo (Post 623920)
I've got sneak preview passes for Thursday night.
___V___, I hope our opinions differ. but you're usually spot on. ;)
What a bummer. I had high hopes for this film. :(

Just watch the first 10 minutes (the family sequences)...and you ll know.;)

jenna26 08-29-2007 09:57 AM

Well, this sucks......pretty much what I was expecting though, to be honest. But we had planned to see this with a few friends while we visiting my family in Georgia next week. The only remake I had planned on spending any money to go see. Pffft......:(

Kane_Hodder 08-29-2007 10:08 AM

This is indeed a bad start. I was expecting so much from this film.
I will give this a viewing though, just for Michael Myers.

alkytrio666 08-29-2007 11:45 AM

I won't be seeing this in theatres, if at all. My predictions were pretty much exactly as V described; I don't need to waste $10 to see them for myself.

The_Return 08-29-2007 11:51 AM

I'm still pumped for in on the basis of "Yeah it'll be 100% different...thats the point. The trailers look badass and Zombie's track record is spot-on so far"

I have faith that it'll still be entertaining. I'm out of town on the 31st, but I'll be seeing it as soon as I get home.

Despare 08-29-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 623886)
.Which brings forth the pretty obvious question (and the casting of Tyler Mane into the limelight) - how could Michael become so big and strong while spending 15 years in a padded up cell?

Simple, the state requires that he get nutritious food and... uhhhh... lots of pushups.

Miss Olivia 08-29-2007 12:40 PM

Weell.....Robert de Niro did it in Cape Fear;)

XtRaVa 08-29-2007 12:50 PM

I think he's saying because hes always locked in a padded cell, presumebly usually in a straight jacket, there arent many options to work out. Whereas a standard prisoner has his daily exercise, access to weights and a bed to do pull-ups on.

I do think it was quite bizarre casting of Myers. The guy is "supposed" to be average build and about 6ft tall - but I guess the size of the actor isn't really anything to get too worried about, but rather the movie itself.

missmacabre 08-29-2007 06:44 PM

There goes my Saturday night plans. I guess I can go an hope that a bunch of teeny poppers go and their screams can at least make me jump.

joshaube 08-29-2007 08:49 PM

Okay, sorry if this was mentioned before... but...

The illegal version you have watched is the WORKPRINT. It was the version shown to test audiences last fall. As you may know, that showing was reason for the reshoots. The film shown in theatres will be entirely reconstructed and feature many reshots - including a new ending.

Word of mouth; workprint = let down. theatrical = highly improved.

_____V_____ 08-29-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joshaube (Post 624087)
Okay, sorry if this was mentioned before... but...

The illegal version you have watched is the WORKPRINT. It was the version shown to test audiences last fall. As you may know, that showing was reason for the reshoots. The film shown in theatres will be entirely reconstructed and feature many reshots - including a new ending.

Word of mouth; workprint = let down. theatrical = highly improved.

I know it is the workprint. And it was shown in April, not last fall.

Quite frankly, the only difference between this one and the final theatrical version is...number of deaths have been increased (6 extra gory deaths), and a new ending which is more faithful to the original. Other than that, the whole movie stays basically the SAME, with one or two cuts here and there.


About this copy verses the theater copy...

Theater copy has :- 6 more death scenes. A different more gruesome death scene, some additional sanitarium scenes and an alternate ending (similar to original).

This workprint copy has :- Many nude scenes that were erased in the final cut as well as a very graphic rape scene. It was toned down to get an R rating.


I dont wanna spoil it just yet...just watch it in a couple days time. And tell me how YOU like it.;)

roshiq 08-29-2007 11:37 PM

then they need to change the tagline: "Let's ruin...the Hallloween!":mad:

the_real_linda 08-30-2007 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 624093)
I know it is the workprint. And it was shown in April, not last fall.

Quite frankly, the only difference between this one and the final theatrical version is...number of deaths have been increased (6 extra gory deaths), and a new ending which is more faithful to the original. Other than that, the whole movie stays basically the SAME, with one or two cuts here and there.


About this copy verses the theater copy...

Theater copy has :- 6 more death scenes. A different more gruesome death scene, some additional sanitarium scenes and an alternate ending (similar to original).

This workprint copy has :- Many nude scenes that were erased in the final cut as well as a very graphic rape scene. It was toned down to get an R rating.


I dont wanna spoil it just yet...just watch it in a couple days time. And tell me how YOU like it.;)

exactly.... the stuff they cut out for theatrical release will pop up in a directors dvd sometime along the way

Dante'sInferno 08-30-2007 12:42 AM

Well I won't be seeing Halloween this friday.

the_real_linda 08-30-2007 01:04 AM

it would have been nice to have a double bill of halloween and saw 4 shown on halloween night

_____V_____ 08-30-2007 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the_real_linda (Post 624106)
exactly.... the stuff they cut out for theatrical release will pop up in a directors dvd sometime along the way

The director's cut DVD will have all of both...I am quite sure of that.

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Originally Posted by the_real_linda (Post 624115)
it would have been nice to have a double bill of halloween and saw 4 shown on halloween night

It would have been possible, but studios would want to get the biggest pie out of the audience's pockets by releasing them separately.

I can safely predict from now that Saw IV will do much better than Zombie's Halloween. Mark my words.

Doc Faustus 08-30-2007 09:05 AM

I'll be there at 12:01 tonight and back here tomorrow with my thoughts. I'll kind of miss Michael as the Shape, but I think it won't be so bad.

Unaboner3000 08-30-2007 09:40 PM

I'll take V's word for it, that this movie blows.

If so, then that is "three strikes and your out" for Mr. Zombie.

LoudLon 08-31-2007 12:37 AM

I got to see a sneak peek of it Wednesday night courtesy of a friend of a friend who manages a local cinema. Sure, not as great as the original (natch') but I'll be damned if I didn't enjoy it.

The first ten minutes, as stated, don't give much hope...but once it gets into the territory of young Michael and his new shrink (played expertly by Malcolm McDowell) it gets better.

It's definitely a Rob Zombie flick; he went out of his way to make it his own. I won't go into details since no one's seen it yet and I don't want to ruin it with spoilers...but I think Zombie overall did a good job with it. It's quite chilling in parts, and though I was sure the "backstory" would be empty and hokey, I was surprised with how deep Zombie went with it.

Is it great? No. Is it much better than I'd expected? Yep. It'll definitely be a love it or hate it kind of flick. Me, I find myself siding with it. Can't hold a candle to the original (as most remakes) but like the Dawn remake, much better than I would have ever expected.

Dante'sInferno 08-31-2007 01:12 AM

I changed my mind.I'll see this moive today.Out of boredem.

AmericanManiac 08-31-2007 04:03 AM

I'm stuck at work and my show starts at 10:30 tonight, have to wait for some friends to come in from outta town. I can't wait too see this film!!!! :eek: :eek:

illdojo 08-31-2007 06:36 AM

8/10 Yeah, it's that good.
I saw a sneak preview last night. Of course it doesnt compare to the original, but Zombie did a great job. I liked it a lot. The acting was stellar.
A tip of the hat to Scout Taylor-Compton and Malcolm McDowell they owned their roles.
I'm glad it wasn't a duplicate of the original.

Shady 08-31-2007 06:52 AM

I saw the midnight showing last night and I've never been so disappointed in my life. Being a Halloween fan all my life I can't even begin to tell you how bad I was awaiting this movie. Walking into this movie I had high expecations due to the fact that Rob Zombie did a fantastic job on House Of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects. I thought for sure Zombie was going to make this a remake to remember and oh how I was wrong.

I didn't even feel like I was watching Halloween because it was so different than the original in a bad way. The music, which was always the main factor in Halloween was played at the wrong times and didn't fit the scene whatsoever. It almost seemed as though there was no plot and just random killings. I was in awe as the credits rolled completely speechless. As everyone got out of there seat I couldn't even move because I was completely shocked at how terrible this was. The only thing that was decent was the acting.

_____V_____ 08-31-2007 07:45 AM

^^^ There you have it, folks. 2 completely different reactions after watching.

Watch it and judge for yourself. I can only vouch for those who have the same tastes as me...that you will be bitterly disappointed.

As for the others (and the die-hard Rob Zombie fans)...to each their own.



EDIT : In response to this...

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Originally Posted by illdojo (Post 624386)
I'm glad it wasn't a duplicate of the original.

Hold a sec there...not a duplicate?

Zombie tried to make a mixed dish of half-prequel and half-remake. Very "original" indeed? The screenplay and direction SUCKED...

Enough said.


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