Harry Osbourne is credited as the Green Goblin in the casting though. I think they dropped Hobgoblin because it was too close a resemblance anyway.

It looks and sounds grim and tough. The ripping off of the costume makes it a look a lot more humane (possibly disgust?)...

Man I cant wait till next summer! This movie is gonna kick ass!

just saw the preview it looks pretty dark. I think theey arew at least building up to venom, i think.
http://www.hilaliya.com/2006/06/spid...er_here_1.html

From the teaser it looks more likely that Venom will be a villain introducted in #3 and leads into #4. The teaser plays it up like the movie is mostly about the internal conflict that the black costume causes in Parker. And plus we saw a lot of sceens at the church when Parker tries to get rid of the suit and then we see Topher Grace/Brook seeing Parker. It is because of that I think that the church sceen would make more sense at the end of the movie. So these few sceens lead me to beleive that the rumors of Venom showing up for 15 minutes then dieing are very unlikly. Atleast I hope their not true.

saw the extended promo attached to superman returns - looks like we've gone 3 villains here - sandman is clearly there, hobogoblin makes an appearance and, of course, the wicked bit of tailoring Venom.

Superman returns?? :eek:

wait you mean you went to see Superman Returns in the theater and saw the Spiderman 3 promo before the movie? :confused:


:D

Story spoilers courtesy of filmick and Dark Horizons:



Before getting on Peter, the symbiote (the black oil substance) has a rather 50's sci-fi origin (ala The Blob)

- In a church bell tower, Eddie Brock (Topher Grace) follows this black Spidey character and sees Peter ripping himself free of the suit - some of which falls onto Brock, causing him to "become" Venom.

- For most of the film, Spider-Man is in pursuit of The Sandman. Harry as the Goblin (sans mask) fights Peter early on and returns at the end to aid him in the final confrontation with Sandman and Venom at a construction site.

- "Dark Spidey, as it were - Peter before he has overcome Venom - is the one who courts Gwen Stacey. Problems in the relationship with MJ, as well as professional issues compound to bring him down. Even downer than last time. That's how Raimi, Sargent and co are using Venom - as a dramatic device to show Peter not just giving up on his great responsibility, but getting drunk on his great power."

- There are scenes inside Curt Connor's lab, where he studies the symbiote, and these scenes are also used to set up the research that will, in the character's story - though not in this movie - turn him into The Lizard.

- The Black Cat does not make any significant appearance in the film, despite existing, on paper, in various earlier conceptions.

- And the fourth villain? "Makes only a fleeting appearance - Bruce Campbell's character this time around is Quentin Beck, known to fans of the comic as Mysterio".

Found a picture which indicates a really stupied route for this movie.

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=7050


Based on this picture, Sandman is the original killer of Unlce Ben, which will cause Parker to seek revenge. This desire is enhanced by the black costume. I personaly think they could have done better than saying that Sandman was the one who killed Uncle Ben.
First off if Sandman was even there at the scene, why wasn't he in the car with the robber from the first movie? I just think its a horrible ploit twist. I think that if they were going to have a reason for Spidy to want revenge have Sandman kill MJ, Dunst doesn't want to do Spidy any more anyways so kill her. Let MJ and Gwen Stacey trade places since she is the route of a love triangle in this movie. For the most part MJ has replaced Gwen in terms of major events in the Spider-Man mythos.

Bruce as Mysterio? Two words:

HELL YES!

which sucks....

Mysterio :cool:

Not really, considering MJ has been the major woman in Peter's life the longest in the original comics. Besides, it seems to work in the Ultimate universe. And also this is Sam Rami's Spider-Man, he can preety much change things the way he feels it will work for the story as well as time. But I don't think this justifies the Sandman picture, I'm hoping this is like a dream sequence.

...Mysterio often fuck things up...with psychedelic drug of some
kind..
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...h_Mysterio.jpg

What does Mysterio have to do with Sandman killing Uncle Ben?

..if he has something to do with the story of this movie he can fuck Peter Parkers mind up....and as you know the story will follow Peter..

I really think that Mysterio will be a side villain who is in and out of the movie really quick, like maybe he does a fight with Spidy at the beginning of the movie and then he's done.

Two negatives in my opinion...

1. Adding Mysterio just clutters things up even moreso than it already was. I'm hoping that it's a short fight. Maybe begin the movie with Spidey defeating Mysterio, or have the battle be off-camera and just show clips of it on the news or something. That way Mysterio can be brought back in full-force somewhere down the line.

2. What in the fuck does Sandman have to do with Uncle Ben's death? I swear, if he turns out to Ben's murderer, than "WOW!". Complete garbage.

Yes, in the old Spider Man comics Venom was the same size as Spidie, but I agree it should be played by a larger actor... My pic is The Rock. The WWE is a goldmine for Superhero movies. Some of those guys can really act.

But if you go to the Ultimate universe Brock is the same and age as Parker. As I've said in other post, Venom is kinda like the evil mirrior image of Spider-Man so I think it make sense to cast someone who resembles Parker in some ways.

I hear you... I still would like someone taller and more muscular in stature. I'm all for keeping it as similar to comic as possible, but I'm only 26 and the Venom I remember was huge.

I should have clearified, Brock is little in the Ultimate universive, Venom is still big. I think that in the movie they will follow this trend with a little guy becoming really big once the suit is on him. I think that it would show the mainstream people just how powerful the suit really is.
But I agree, one of the big appeals of Venom is that he's big and muscular, so I would hope that Venom would be that way in the movie.

Teaser poster!


http://www.superherohype.com/news/fe...ws.php?id=4496

Anyone notice how the parts of the Spider that are consumed by the black costume look different? Similiar to the Venom spider, or am I just wishful thinking?

Simmons on Spider-Man 3 & More Sequels
Source: TV Guide July 17, 2006

J.K. Simmons talked to TV Guide about returning as J. Jonah Jameson in Spider-Man 3 and possibly making more sequels. Simmons says he wrapped filming two or three weeks ago.

TVGuide.com: What's your feeling on 3? Judging by the trailers, it looks darker.
Simmons: I think it pulls in a lot of interesting directions. Of course we're a long ways from seeing a final version of it, but my stuff, we had a lot of fun doing. I probably had not as much to do as I did in the second one and maybe a little more than I had in the first one, but from what I saw the new bad-guy stuff is once again going to top its predecessor.

TVGuide.com: In 2, we met Jonah's son, who in Spider-Man lore evolves into a villain. But they're not playing that card yet?
Simmons: Not yet. Hopefully there are plenty of cards to play for [Parts] 4, 5, 6.... I'll do a Spider-Man for every two or three years for the next couple decades if they want. That'd be all right!

TVGuide.com: Was there any talk of Spider-Man 4 on the set?
Simmons: Yeah, it got mentioned. In fact, the last couple of days I shot was at the very end of the schedule — we were doing some night-action scenes in New York — and [director] Sam [Raimi] was talking about it. It's not a done deal because everybody's deals, including Sam Raimi's and all the actors', was for three pictures. But he's certainly open to doing more.

First Pic of Venom in Spider-Man 3 Online!
Source: Sony Pictures July 22, 2006

Sony Pictures has updated the official website for Spider-Man 3 with the first photo of Eddie Brock changing into Venom! You can view the photo in wallpaper form at the official site by selecting 'Desktop' and then 'Wallpaper 2'. A third wallpaper of Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker with the black suit has been added as well.

Another poster, featuring Sandman, was also revealed during the Comic-Con presentation and can be viewed here!

Spider-Man 3, directed by Sam Raimi and starring Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, Thomas Haden Church, Topher Grace and Bryce Dallas Howard, opens in theaters on May 4.

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Spider-Man 3 Footage at Comic-Con Panel!
Source: Edward Douglas July 22, 2006

The entire cast of Spider-Man 3 appeared at the San Diego Comic-Con to present some new footage and answer questions from a very excited, jampacked crowd.

First, they introduced director Sam Raimi and producer Laura Ziskin who were a bit uncertain whether to show some new footage, since a lot of it was unfinished, but the crowd quickly convinced them to do so, and they ran an exclusive extended teaser.

It opens with Tobey Maguire looking into a mirror and opening his shirt to reveal a black costume, with a voice over from Aunt May, "Uncle Ben wouldn't want us living with revenge in our hearts, just like voices that take you over and turn us into something ugly." The daunting title card comes on saying "All Will Be Lost," and then the next scene shows Topher Grace as Eddie Brock walking through a church with a voice over of him asking someone "to do one thing for me. I want you to kill Peter Parker." Parker also has what appears to be a nightmare sequence where he looks into a bathroom mirror and Venom is a brief flashing screeching reflection. (The movie sounds like it may be very dark, doesn't it?).

The rest of the teaser footage went by way too fast to describe in detail, but we did see Harry Osborn in a black ninja-like suit swinging a samurai sword at Peter Parker and there were extensive fight scenes between Spider-Man and Sandman, which weren't even close to being finished, but looked quite fantastic. There was also a little more footage of the new Harry Osborn/Goblin character, which Raimi explained later wouldn't be called either the "Green Goblin" or the "Hobgoblin," but it is Harry using his father's Goblin equipment to get revenge on Peter Parker. (So that's two people who don't like Peter Parker… not to mention the Sandman!)

The footage ended with Topher's Eddie Brock feeling something black and gooey hit his hand--obviously the symbiote--and it cuts to the very first image of the computerized Venom, who looks exactly like he does in the comic book if rendered in 3D, looking straight into the camera with his jaws wide open and drooling. If you're a fan of Venom, you're not likely to be disappointed.

Director Sam Raimi then introduced the entire cast of the movie, who showed up in San Diego unannounced in the program (though you read about it right here on ComingSoon.net/SuperheroHype.com). Kirsten Dunst (Mary Jane Watson), Bryce Dallas Howard (Gwen Stacy), Thomas Haden Church (Sandman), Topher Grace (Eddie Brock/Venom) and Tobey Maguire (duh) all came out to the type of rapturous applause reception that the Rolling Stones must experience at every show.

They immediately went to questions from the audience, with a lot of it focusing on Grace, who admitted to being a fan of the comics, particularly the Todd McFarlane ones, and he liked being able to play a darker version of the Peter Parker character.

Everyone on stage seemed to be having fun, Raimi and Tobey doing a bit of a schtick about how Tobey lied to Raimi about being a big fan of Spider-Man before getting the part, and one poor fan wearing a large "S" on his shirt was heckled a bit, before Raimi quipped that he liked the "new Spider-Man logo."

Before the end of the panel, they showed a few new images of all the characters new and old. Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane was surrounded by what looked like black webbing (though it could have been strands of the symbiote), Bryce Dallas Howard was simply sitting in a chair, Tobey Maguire had a very Superman-like pose with him ripping open the shirt to show the black costume. The two new villain shots were the most interesting, as Thomas Haden Church's Sandman had his back towards the camera with a small child holding a teddy bear standing behind him (which will probably be a big part of his story) and Topher Grace was in profile with the symbiote covering the back of his head and starting to spread over his face. (These pictures should be available soon to those who couldn't make it to the Comic-Con.)

Spider-Man 3 opens on May 4, 2007 and ComingSoon.net/SuperheroHype.com is sure to have a lot more between now and then. (Look for our exclusive interview with Thomas Haden Church in the coming weeks.)

Just gets you more and more excited.

Damn. I didn't know they were doing that. Ah well. You probably had to wait in line for like 3 hours, anyway.

The Spider-Man 3 Presentation at Comic-Con

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808496334/trailer

So, has this made it onto the net yet?

Did they say or mention anything about a "rumored" 4th villian?I heard this...probably just porky pies about a possible 4th villian....i.e. The Lizard or maybe Rhino or The Shocker.

Maybe a 4th will be hinted at for the next one.

It was but then it was quickly removed due to copy right shit. The quality was really bad, good sound but at the end when you saw Venom rush towards the screen you can tell its him.

The rumor is that Bruce Campbell is play Mysterio.

The most logical course for the movies to take is to have Venom show up at the very end, maybe have a qucik fight with Spidy just to wet our appitets and then have that carry over to #4 and do a Carnage storyline with Venom. Or maybe not but I think Venom should carry over to #4.

I forsee a Pirates of the Carribean style "lets piss off the audience and sell lots of tickets to the sequel" kind of ending...

The only way venom popping up with a few minutes left and carrying over would tick me off is if we've gotta wait another 3 years for number 4. Pirates seriously left you hanging but the next one's coming in May, that's not exactly right around the corner but much better than 3 years.

I think it might be more like X2 where Phenoix built up threw the movie and then continued into X3. I just hope none of the future Spider-Man movies are as crapy as X3.

I don't mind them carrying it over, I actually think that would be better than cluttering the movie with 3, possibly 4 villains. I'd just be ticked off if we've gotta wait another 3 years.

Okay, too many damn posts to bother reading them all, but, I was very skeptical about Thomas Hayden Church playing eddie brock, uyntil i saw the still of him from the movie. He was a very good call.

Church is Marko/Sandman, Topher Grace is Brock/Venom.

If that's true(which I hope to hell it is)then that's smart.Bruce Campbell has had cameos in the first two installments and his version of Mysterio would no doubt be as over the top and as hokey as the comic.:cool: