I have a good sense of humor... somethings i dont make fun of. Religion, race (sometimes with my friends but its in good nature), old people, handicap, etc.

Do you know that scientists still can't figure out why some people laugh at certain jokes and not at others? Fascinating.

I don't get the joy of nascar, but I don't chalk it up to being smarter than people. I know some pretty immature 27 year olds so you really can't go by age. Sorry, you're not better for not getting religious or sick jokes.

maybe its a goth thing

some of you have been making fun of me for like 30 minutes now, no one is cares about that. I bet if I was a baby or missing an arm you would be. I mean fuck it, you deal with what you are delt with and if you can have a sense of humor about it I think that you are more intelligent than the people who think they are the smarter ones for not lauging at a sensitive subject. I bet god has a sense of humor. he would have too, I mean look at your self.

pfft redneck.

haha... i knew someone would respond like that. Do you go to children hospitals and laugh at the kids with cancer or maybe missing a limb? Try watch a comedy movie or go to a comedy club, you may get a kick out of that instead. Alright, you can go back to baby raping death Jokes. And Im not saying Im better than anybody.

nope..
I choose to be like everyother american
out of sight out of mind
its the anti social way

I was only kidding... umm I feel terrible for kids with cancer and/or missing limbs. Why you would think of me as some kind of monster just because I don't campaign against these jokes is beyond me.

I'm actually a very compassionate person. I give blood (No, I don't sell it like you guys do in the states or have it kept for my use) I plan to keep doing it whenever I can. Last time I went it took 2 hours, but that's not going to stop me from going because I actually do give a shit. I truly do feel bad for a lot of people, but in most cases there's nothing I can do anyway.

I can laugh at any joke if it's funny because it's just a joke. You're obviously too dense to grasp that, despite being *gasp* 24.

I do believe you are a compassionate person... Even 24 yr olds feel old.... You will see. I have friends that are freaking out because they just turned 24 and worrying about crows feet. And I do have friends with your humor... They sometime go crazy with handicap jokes and Im like "whoa".

I cried when I turned 20

20?! Thats ridiculous

My friends think I'm crazy because I say stuff like "Fuck, I'm almost 20... Then I'll be 24... so close to 27....

what do I know Im only 22

I agreed. This forum is great

Religion is like cancer. I'm far from goth.

Its in a different class then race,rape, or morbid things

I only come here for horror movie advice.

I come here for the "FETTUCINE!!"

LMAO!:p

here's the deal.

I can understand the concept of 'nothing is sacred' when it comes to 'jokes' Laughing in the face of death .. the rediculous of the absurd, etc.

I can understand how young people won't yet understand the gravity of what babies and children mean to other people .. they havent been on the planet long enough to experience that kind of loss, or grow weary hearing and reading daily atrocities in the news -

what i did get sick of is the flippant attitude of some wannabe badass wandering through the forums spitting piss here and there and everywhere, trying to come off as a hip, groovy, deep, irreverant, funky-ass cool, toughchick, and then going .. oh, i'm drunk, like a 12 year old at her first school dance.

It was old before it was started ... it was deliberate trolling ...

and sooner or later you would have to accept that it's stepping on the sesitive areas of some people.

Thats antisocial behavior ...

and the battle-cry of 'dont read it the - you self righteous pricks' is complete bullshit because its happening in the middle of conversations all over the fucking map.

Its like saying - ignore a guy who screams 'kill ni**ers' in the middle of a mall. Ignoring ignorance - what a great idea.
This is a forum ..it is a community of sorts and as in every community we discuss things, share points of views, develop friendships. Don't fucking dare tell me to ignore shit that i think is innapropriate in my fucking community.
Morality police my ass ... like morals are a bad thing on a Horror forum ?

What happened to the days when a meer fart was enough to get everyone rolling.

I have a pretty fucked up sense of humor and the fact that that dude actually had to put "anally" to refer to raping this boy, as though saying just rape isn't sufficant enough, is hard fucking core.

I would go and do the world a favor and off myself if i were you. Make sure you leave a note.;)

It's not really the same, it's more along the lines of ignore someone who tells a racist joke if you're too uptight to laugh. Some people don't seem to understand that the world doesn't bow to them.

Anyway what happened to the right to free speech? Does that only apply if it doesn't conflict with your beliefs? If I hear a guy saying "Kill niggers" I'm going to tell him that's he's an ignorant racist fuck and I hope he chokes but I'm not going to go go on a crusade to stop people from saying stuff like that.

Telling a sick joke is completely different from that anyway though.

You know, I'm sick of people dragging out the old "whatever happened to free speech" deal! So freedom of speech is supposed to give you the right to say whatever the hell you want and to hell with people's feelings? I think not! Just the opinion of an old fart.

yes

You have alot to learn if you're going to make it in this world, little girl!

Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you should say it. However, I truly believe that nobody should be allowed to silence you.

it was the same in the context i meant it in .. it was re. the 'if you dont like it - dont read it' context and my point was that it was in every forum - hard to ignore.

actually free speech is a right ... but hate crime isnt (re my mall example)
There are crusades to stop people saying shit like that - its law .. and i'd stand right behind it ... but thats distracting from the point ..

i was saying somewhere else that i know where the actual jokes are coming from .. we told those 'dead baby' jokes when we were kids too believe it or not .. it probably started with my generation ...

anyway .. this was something that was going on before you showed up last nite .. it was about an attitude .. not a couple of jokes..

But that completely goes against free speech. Saying "I hate niggers" or something is not a hate crime....

Oh, I don't care about her. lol The topic has changed. :)

the first statement is true ...
however if an individual in a community does speak up with something extremely unpleasant - the rest of the comunity has that same right of free speech to express how they feel about it ..

Thats not silencing someone - its more showing and hoping that the person should have the brains to silence themselves...


Hey its not like trolling is something new on a forum ...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
[B]But that completely goes against free speech. Saying "I hate niggers" or something is not a hate crime....




well, yeah it is .. it's a moral crime anyway ..


if we're going to take this line of discussion .. here goes :


that would be an antisocial moral crime.
if its published and passed around it qualifies as hate literature .. this IS against the law ...
To me it is just as bad if its spoken allowed.

I know you dont feel that way and this is purely an academic discussion on morals, etc ...

That's right.

Being a writer, i am one of the biggest proponents of free speech alive. But I believe in Intelligent free speech. If you dont have something useful, interesting, intelligent or relevant to say, shut your fucking mouth.

Absurdity is funny. Absurd death in a monty python movie is funny. Seeing the bad guy get caught in machinary and torn to pieces in amovie can be funny.

A little kid getting raped, no matter the context, is NOT funny.

Back to the free speech thing, people who prove they are to ignorant to maintain a decent outlook should have it revoked. I do not believ in the KKK being allowed to march. Fuck them. This is why i am not a cop, because i would refuse to protect those assholes.

I dont believe serial killers, child molesters, serial rapists, or any other socipaths deserve to be treated like humans. Their entire existance is non-human. Thye lack compassion and the ability to feel any empathy for anyone othger than themselves. As a social creature, those things are part of what make us human, so that makes them somehting inhuman, and therefore not afforded human rights.

I should just put this link in my sig, as i will keep posting it whenever shit like this comes up:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...r/index_1.html

read the whole thing and then still tell me jokes about killing and raping kids are still funny, because "its just a joke".

well unfortunately at that point a couple of morons jumped in to say no one has the right to say anything against the jokes .,.etc .. and it turned into a sensless bar room brawl.


we all can say what we like here ... up to the point of what the forum guidlines say we can ..

and no we cant expect people are going to be able to always judge or care what others find to be a sensitive issue ...

i just get really turned off by people being offensive just to get a rise ... i know that's all part of the 'being a kid' deal for people growing up ... it always has been ..

it just gets really tired sometimes ..

and before anyone jumps on our point of view ... we're not talking about someone who for some reason known to only themselves, would rather be completely alone ... we're not talking about people who want to be individuals instead of 'part of the herd'

we're talking about anti-humans ... people who are worse than the lowest form of animal. People who prey on other people for their enjoyment.

The funny thing is that they do it to stand out and be different, not realizing that everyone around them is already doing it, so they neither stand out nor are different.


Being different simply to be different is pathetic. Being different because that's what you are is cool.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by urgeok
[B]bah, damn your last sentence. Oh well
I won't just say "to you"atleast. ;) I'm glad people say racist things actually. I'm not happy they are stupid and racist, but I'm happy that we're allowed to say whatever we want. There shouldn't be any laws against how we think, and I believe we should be allowed to speak our minds regardless of it's in good working order or not.

I hate racism, probably as much as you but I think charging someone for saying something is completely ridiculous.

Precisely. I know a lot of people who think serial killers are cool and like the pictures of their victims and all that shit. They never actually study these people and what they have done.

I have been making these same points here:
http://horror.com/forum/showthread.p...threadid=14049

I agree that these people are fascinating in a morbid way, the same way a spider is fascinating. I have done Hours up hours of research on serial killers, pedophiles, cultists, despots, you name it, because of my website. Notice i have only 1 article so far, mostly because i refuse to glorify these people in any way.

I really do think that kids thatmake these kinds of comments hsould have to sit in on an autopsy. If it makes you sickhtu the fuck up. if not, get a job in a mortuary, or get into forensics and put these sick fucks away.

Oh, And shut the fuck up about it.

well, its not really - you have to follow history to see why ..
Again - taking this example specifically...

a lot of people are no better than pack animals ...
all it takes is the freedom to start saying you hate something ...
then comes the desire to do something about it ...

For blacks in north america you dont have to go back too far in history to remember a time where someone yelling that would strike fear in the hearts of people who wondered if that night was their night to suffer.

society takes the blame every time someone goes fucking crazy - so why is it wrong for society to assume a positive responsibiliy ?

There is no unfortunate and evil history behind someone yelling 'i hate the colour green' in a crowded place ... no one cares.. it is annoying but not hateful .. there's your free speech.

lol

Uhhh it's not free speech is you're told it's ok to say this but not that.

Do Canadians have a mandated freedom of speech? I know we do here...

There is a line to be drawn. hitler managed to tie up the western world in a war for years simply because of what he had said. Words have much more power than a lot of people want to accept.


Try explaining to a fat kid who gets picked on mercilessly by everyone that "Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can never hurt you."


They will probably say "Bullshit. You dont have to deal with this abuse, so you have no idea how much they sting."

Speech is more powerful than actionin some cases. Does freedom of speech cover a father twelling his 4 year old daughter that she will have nice tits someday, and he cant wait?

Does it protect a teacher from calling a failing student stupid?

Does it protect someone saying that they ar eplanning on blowing up a major building?

Does it protect some dumb fuck screaming "Fire" in a crowded theater?

Freedom of speech is great, but stupidity should be illeagal, and therefore stupid words should be punishable by law.