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neverending 11-29-2014 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 982928)
Oh so having a good review somewhere means it won't be on your list.....okay so i guess that means that you're gonna have nothing on your list. You're always going to find someone, somewhere who enjoys a movie for whatever reason and if you're not even going to engage in a debate or discussion about why you disagree with our choices and just flat out refuse to include a movie whether this is an official list or not, then there really is no point in anyone putting their thoughts into this thread.



This is why I always oppose this idea whenever it comes up, and it has many times over the years. Even moreso than best of lists, worst of lists seem to generate much more controversy. There are several films nominated in this thread that I think are brilliant- not just "so bad they're good," but actual brilliant films. It's just too subjective.

Despare 11-30-2014 01:49 PM

It's probably easier just to post your list of the worst movies you can think of. Taste is so subjective, for instance while Sculpt thinks TCM 2 should be on the list I adore that movie and have two different releases of it. It's especially hard to do with a group of people like we have here in which you'll find some people who really dig stuff like Frankenhooker (me) and Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter (not so much me...).

Sculpt 11-30-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 982852)
This is not going to be an official list.

Thanks, Neverending. As I do occasionally, I just read the thread title, and didn't read Horcrux's first post...

It reads Horcrux is just putting his own list together (for himself, not HDC) and is asking for suggestions. I assumed he was getting films together for a HDC participation thread. Sorry about that, Horcrux! Disregard my previous post.

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 982965)
It's probably easier just to post your list of the worst movies you can think of. Taste is so subjective, for instance while Sculpt thinks TCM 2 should be on the list I adore that movie and have two different releases of it. It's especially hard to do with a group of people like we have here in which you'll find some people who really dig stuff like Frankenhooker (me) and Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter (not so much me...).

Very true, Desp!

Regarding Hooper's TCSM2... I was a fan of TCSM for some years, and then saw TCSM2 at the theatre with some friends. Expectations will affect how one perceives a film. I wasn't expecting a looney dark comedy. (That's how Hooper himself described it, & I agree.).

Now as a looney, gory, mean spirited, dark comedy, I still don't think it was a good film. If I compare it to Motel Hell, I think Motel Hell captured the right frame of mind, so to speak. I don't think TCSM2 was cogent. Mean spirited is difficult to pull off. I don't find mean spirited dark comedy entertaining anyway, but it's a complicated art-form, of many levels, that can work. I think it failed miserably.

Hooper said he didn't want to do it, at the time, he wasn't the main writer of the story, it made the family anti-heros, but I didn't see (in the flim) any cogent intention of what the family was, or what we're supposed to think about it. To put it crassly, I thought the film clumsily stumbled into mean-spirited-porn, was made strictly for money, leeching off the original, plus a cinematic mess. I'm glad you got something good out of it.

Maybe you can tell me what things you thought the film was trying to say? Why you liked it?

Despare 11-30-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 982975)
Maybe you can tell me what things you thought the film was trying to say? Why you liked it?

I wasn't looking for a message in it, I had heard from a friend that I had to see it and that it was drastically different from the first... total popcorn film. So me and a friend sat down and watched it. I immediately fell in love with "Chop Top" and Grandpa but Dennis Hopper brought it over the edge for me. The lunacy, from the first car chase to the final showdown was fantastic and a lot of fun to watch. I guess I wasn't really searching for a better understanding of a serial killer's family dynamic or a message delivered about society through a dual chainsaw wielding cop and perhaps that's why I liked it so much. Some people enjoy sifting through layers of subtlety in film and trying to get into the head of the creators, to an extent I do too, but sometimes I'm just looking for a good time.

Raegan 12-16-2014 10:15 AM

Anything with Eli Roths name on it

horcrux2007 12-16-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Raegan (Post 984005)
Anything with Eli Roths name on it

I thought Hostel and Cabin Fever were amazing, but Hostel Part 2 was trash. I wanna see The Sacrament.

Surprised you didn't like Hostel or Cabin Fever. What didn't you like about em?


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