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alkytrio666 07-19-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 820466)
Oh, yeah. I really need to grab that one. I've actually never seen it, but I think you've recommended it to me before. I'm sure it's great.



Excellent purchase. Can't do much better than that.



Yeah, I think I will too. I really want to get Cría cuervos.

I saw Sansho the Bailiff there today. I've never seen it, but here it's quite good; I think I may pick it up this week. Have you seen it?

fortunato 07-19-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 820467)
I saw Sansho the Bailiff there today. I've never seen it, but here it's quite good; I think I may pick it up this week. Have you seen it?

No, I haven't seen that one unfortunately. I also hear it's great.

Have you ever checked out that Brakhage anthology by the way? It's quite an impressive set. I lost my original copy before I could finish the whole thing, but it's an incredible release. I don't know if you're familiar with this work, but it's so intense, kaleidoscopic and visceral. It really sends the mind into a whirl.

alkytrio666 07-19-2009 07:50 PM

Dah, no, but I've been itching to check some of his stuff out forever- I'm completely unfamiliar with Brakhage. Man, if I had a million dollars this sale would put me over.

fortunato 07-19-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 820475)
Dah, no, but I've been itching to check some of his stuff out forever- I'm completely unfamiliar with Brakhage. Man, if I had a million dollars this sale would put me over.

Haha no kidding.
You really must check out some of his work. Do you have Netflix or anything?
Or maybe even take a chance on the Criterion release.

Also: Just out of curiosity, what experimental cinema do you like?

alkytrio666 07-20-2009 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 820479)
Haha no kidding.
You really must check out some of his work. Do you have Netflix or anything?
Or maybe even take a chance on the Criterion release.

Also: Just out of curiosity, what experimental cinema do you like?

When I go back to school, the university library almsot literally has everything- including every single Criterion release. I'll probably check it out then unless I stumble across it in a B&N in the right mood.

I have not seen much in the way of experimental, but I have seen some Jodorowsky, who interests me, and some of Painleve's crazier stuff. Any recommendations?

fortunato 07-20-2009 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 820518)
I have not seen much in the way of experimental, but I have seen some Jodorowsky, who interests me, and some of Painleve's crazier stuff. Any recommendations?

Hm, let's see. Some of my favorites, other than Brakhage:

- Kenneth Anger
- Maya Deren
- Jan Švankmajer
- The Brothers Quay have done some interesting work certainly worth checking out

The early Dada guys had some great stuff: (obviously) Buñuel/Dalí's Un chien andalou, Jean Epstein's The Fall of the House of Usher (1928), Man Ray's L'Étoile de mer (1928), Marcel Duchamp's Anémic cinéma (1926), etc.

One of the more impressive short films I have ever seen is a 1926 piece by Dimitri Kirsanoff called Ménilmontant.

There is a wonderful DVD set that Kino released called Avant-Garde: Experimental Cinema of the 1920s and 30s that I would seriously recommend if you're interested in getting into more experimental work. Quite a few of the ones I've mentioned are included, actually (Ménilmontantis on there).

If you haven't seen The Man with the Movie Camera (1929) by Dziga Vertov, that's definitely worth a watch, too.

Papillon Noir 07-20-2009 11:44 AM

I second Maya Deren (Meshes on the Afternoon and At Land being the best) and Man with a Movie Camera (way ahead of it's time).

alkytrio666 07-20-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fortunato (Post 820527)
Hm, let's see. Some of my favorites, other than Brakhage:

- Kenneth Anger
- Maya Deren
- Jan Švankmajervankmajer
- The Brothers Quay have done some interesting work certainly worth checking out

The early Dada guys had some great stuff: (obviously) Buñuel/Dalí's Un chien andalou, Jean Epstein's The Fall of the House of Usher (1928), Man Ray's L'Étoile de mer (1928), Marcel Duchamp's Anémic cinéma (1926), etc.

One of the more impressive short films I have ever seen is a 1926 piece by Dimitri Kirsanoff called Ménilmontant.

There is a wonderful DVD set that Kino released called Avant-Garde: Experimental Cinema of the 1920s and 30s that I would seriously recommend if you're interested in getting into more experimental work. Quite a few of the ones I've mentioned are included, actually (Ménilmontantis on there).

If you haven't seen The Man with the Movie Camera (1929) by Dziga Vertov, that's definitely worth a watch, too.

Oh yeah, I've seen plenty of Vetov stuff. I'll check out the others.

fortunato 07-20-2009 02:41 PM

Haha, that's Švankmajer, by the way. Apparently I had some copy/paste issues.

alkytrio666 07-20-2009 03:56 PM

Have you read Kino-Eye? I mostly liked it, he had a very interesting way at looking at the cinema, but godDAMN was that man high on himself!


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