Okay, let's let the fetus decide whether or not it gets aborted or not. I mean, since the 'But what about the BABY'S choice' is TOTALLY valid and a really great argument, surely the fetus is capable of MAKING a choice, right?

I agree with that but as a man, I dont know what it is like to have a child or destroy one from inside my body. Therefore I feel that a man should have no say in what goes on in a womans body. Although myself I think abortion is wrong for me I cannot make a decision for the woman. I have always seen it as a life but it is not my life to take. It really is sad that some people use it as birth control, I just think its wrong.

Which in turn makes her unpregnant. It's not like she's still pregnant. I mean, I was under the impression that after you give birth you're no longer pregnant. But I'm a man, what do I know?

I hate how people say it's the "woman's choice." Don't you think the unborn human life has a choice, too?

I simply cannot understand how you can justify murdering a human life, just because it hasn't left it's mothers womb...

Abortionists are murderers, plain and simple. And isn't that ironic? How this is a "horror message board?"

It's not a human the whole time, though

Whoops, sorry. My mistake. Thank you, God.:rolleyes:

*sigh* It's just the same as you saying (or implying) that it IS human the whole time. At least there's something to back up that it's not human the entire time.

Says who? Who can ACTUALLY determine whether or not it's a human life? Seriously, just think about that.

After you're done, please, tell me, what are the secrets of the universe? Then, of course, I'd like to know the formulaic equation to creating human life. Thanks!

my neighbor was killed a week or so ago

she had a brain aneurism, underwent surgery.

2 weeks minimum waiting, till they try to revive her

2 days short of the 2 ewek mark she has a heart attack and another brain aneurism, much more severe than the first

they pulled the plug.. why? her brain was dead

you are not alive without a brain.. and a bunch of things develop BEFORE the brain ever does. which is why many people go along with first trimester abortions

Ok, let's assume that humans are mammals for a moment.

The characteristics of mammals include the following:
I've bolded the two important ones. Now, according to this site,
I'm assuming that the skeletal system includes the backbone, since it's not mentioned anywhere before it. Also,
in 8 weeks the organs are in place. Lungs aren't mentioned before this, so let's assume that the lungs are included with the organs. That's 6 weeks until the backbone is developed and 8 weeks until the lungs are in place. 2 whole months before you could even say it's a mammal.