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Staplez 02-17-2008 07:37 PM

The thing I find creepy about zombies is the slow static like walking.

siorai 02-19-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 666746)
Actually slow zombies build more tension and create a creepier atmosphere. It's great because they're so easily dispatched until they gather in numbers and groups fall apart or make a mistake. Fast zombies are ok but they really don't create the same environment of terror.


Slow zombies make for a more brooding kind of horror. Fast zombies make for a more instantaneous threat. With slow zombies you're basically an idiot if they get you. You're only really in trouble if you're surrounded or barricade yourself in a building of some sort. Otherwise in the real world, a slow zombie would not catch anyone. You could see a slow zombie across the street and not be in immediate danger. Just turn away and walk briskly. A fast zombie though? You better be able to run.

I find the thought of a fast, relentless predator far more scary than a slow one. Which would scare you more? Having a cheetah or a three-toed sloth decide they wanted to eat your yummy brainmeats? Give me the sloth any day of the week because I wouldn't even have to break a sweat to escape it. for that reason I prefer the movies with fast zombies. The slow ones just mean that at some point there's going to have to be a huge mistake made by the characters in order to push the plot forward.

T-Rack 02-24-2008 10:31 AM

NO I think there are a lot of good horror movies out there I'm not much of a fan of the Asian horror movies.

Despare 02-25-2008 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by siorai (Post 667201)
Slow zombies make for a more brooding kind of horror. Fast zombies make for a more instantaneous threat. With slow zombies you're basically an idiot if they get you. You're only really in trouble if you're surrounded or barricade yourself in a building of some sort. Otherwise in the real world, a slow zombie would not catch anyone. You could see a slow zombie across the street and not be in immediate danger. Just turn away and walk briskly. A fast zombie though? You better be able to run.

I find the thought of a fast, relentless predator far more scary than a slow one. Which would scare you more? Having a cheetah or a three-toed sloth decide they wanted to eat your yummy brainmeats? Give me the sloth any day of the week because I wouldn't even have to break a sweat to escape it. for that reason I prefer the movies with fast zombies. The slow ones just mean that at some point there's going to have to be a huge mistake made by the characters in order to push the plot forward.

The slow zombies build and build, the terror rising while the numbers increase. It's the security you feel being able to easily dispatch the zombies slowly fading away as the numbers continue to rise. What makes fast zombies so much different than people infected with the Rage? It's just an alteration of a classic monster to help those with ADD enjoy zombie flicks.

thevodguy 02-25-2008 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 668221)
The slow zombies build and build, the terror rising while the numbers increase. It's the security you feel being able to easily dispatch the zombies slowly fading away as the numbers continue to rise. What makes fast zombies so much different than people infected with the Rage? It's just an alteration of a classic monster to help those with ADD enjoy zombie flicks.

I totally agree. While fast zombies are good for making you jump in your seat, anyone can do that kind of horror. It's the feeling of true hopelessness the slow ones give you, that really defined the genre in the first place. Sure, you can out run them, and you can kill them one by one...but for how long? They don't need to sleep or stop to catch their breath, so eventually you're as good as zombie fodder. It's the sheer number of the bastards that's virtually unstoppable.

Despare 02-25-2008 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thevodguy (Post 668224)
I totally agree. While fast zombies are good for making you jump in your seat, anyone can do that kind of horror. It's the feeling of true hopelessness the slow ones give you, that really defined the genre in the first place. Sure, you can out run them, and you can kill them one by one...but for how long? They don't need to sleep or stop to catch their breath, so eventually you're as good as zombie fodder. It's the sheer number of the bastards that's virtually unstoppable.

And with the fast zombies the speed they have virtually eliminates the necessity for the numbers. Ah well, tis' all opinion.

thevodguy 02-25-2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 668228)
And with the fast zombies the speed they have virtually eliminates the necessity for the numbers. Ah well, tis' all opinion.

That's precisely it. Romero did it right the first time, IMO.

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Despare 02-25-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thevodguy (Post 668235)
Btw, my mailing address is in Evans City, PA...ring any bells??? :D


Lucky you, I wish I lived in zombie city...

Anyway, I also believe that slow zombies create more doubt and inner turmoil within anybody having to dispatch of them. If something is speeding toward you trying to take you out then it's fairly easy to shoot right? Slow zombies though, they may just be an injured person. Not only that but you have time to see them which can be deadly in itself, especially if it's a former loved one. Anyway, interesting discussion even if we did hijack the thread and turn it into a zombie thread.

horrorchic 07-08-2008 05:39 PM

Romero never thought of them as Zombies and neither did many movies before him. He thought that they were Ghouls. He explains that many times in the featurettes on his DVDs. Though we all agree that his Zombies are the original greats, I still can not get over teh Zombies on Crack from 28 days later. I love those and yes I have ADD.

urgeok2 07-09-2008 05:57 AM

didnt this exact thread get started a year or so ago ..


I'll say now what iu said the last time .. only with even more conviction ..


No ... horror movies have never been stronger since the 70's.
There are far more theatrically released horrors coming out now than i can ever remember. A lot of good established directors are making these films not to mention actors. The studios are taking the genre seriously again.


here's why :

- The Japanese horror film influence. anything that proves profitable (popular) in any country is going to be exploited in north america.

- The Saw films - and other 'grindhouse influenced movies. good or not - they are also popular and as long as asses fill the seats in the theatres, these and similar films will continue to be theatrically released.

- QT and RR. like them or not - their love and entheusiasm for genre films (and their quality as filmmakers) have been a huge boon for horror fans. So much so that it sickens me when people shit on their efforts. We need more of these guys ..

many horror fans have pretty god damn short memories - or are to young to have had to live through decades of mediocrity. unimaginative cheap straight to video slasher films starring nothing but 3rd rate soap opera actors.

ther have been other influences - reasons for why horror has been flourishing ... i cant recall them all right now ... but these are some pretty major ones.

something to keep in mind : these things come and go in waves ... lets ride this one as long as possible - and be thankfull of it .. because i bet in 10 years time the same people shitting on this decade of horror now - will eventually be looking back on it as 'the golden age of modern horror cinema''


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