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PR3SSUR3 11-30-2006 04:48 PM

I merely Ju-Jitsued your sarcasm.

:D

incubust 11-30-2006 07:59 PM

The N word should never be used by anyone white or black. Im black and me and my friends have on occasion jokingly used it "amongst each other in private", bt that's the main phrase here: "amongs each other in private". Just like a polish or italian person may jokingly call each other "pollack" or ginny" among ther own but not in public forum. It's the hip hop/rap genre/generation that's misusing the word casually and flagrantly, and an irresponsible media that allows it to be used on cds and in movies

However, Michael Richards was using the word the way it was originally intended: as a weapon of hate. He wasnt trying to be hip or show some sub-cultural significance. He made a comment about hanging a black man 50 ft in the air with a fork up his ass, then started directly calling the heckler a n..... That's hate speech no matter what anyone says. He can apologize all he wants. Also this guy should never have been onstage as he isnt a stand up comedian and obviously doesnt know how to handle simple heckling. Now his career is basically in the toilet, at least for now. He doesnt have the talent of a Mel Gibson who will definitely bounce back from his own anti-semitic faux pas. I havent stopped watching Seinfeld but I wont be able to forget what Richards has done. Look for him coming to a reality show near you.

The STE 11-30-2006 10:09 PM

the impresssion I've gotten in relation to the word in question is this:

Lets say you have a sibling. You're allowed to make fun of said sibling. When someone else comes along and makes fun of them, that's not cool. Seems like the same principle applies with the use of the word.



Anyways, I'm just surprised enough people went to Richards' show for him to offend anybody.


Preemptive edit: That last sentence seems awkwardly worded, so I'll rephrase it: I'm surprised anybody went to Richards' show.

monalisa 12-01-2006 12:53 AM

If it was a black comedian calling a white heckler a skinny assed cracker, I doubt that anyone would have batted an eyelash over it, they probably would have laughed. Big deal, it was a COMEDY show, ya know, not to be taken seriously. People need to fucking lighten up. Just my opinion.

urgeok 12-01-2006 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 516800)
If it was a black comedian calling a white heckler a skinny assed cracker, I doubt that anyone would have batted an eyelash over it, they probably would have laughed. Big deal, it was a COMEDY show, ya know, not to be taken seriously. People need to fucking lighten up. Just my opinion.


this was addressed several times earlier on in the thread.

there is a history to take into account. Whites in america do not have the same history as blacks.

monalisa 12-01-2006 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 516802)
this was addressed several times earlier on in the thread.

there is a history to take into account. Whites in america do not have the same history as blacks.

Sorry, I am guilty of not reading all of the posts earlier, so sorry if I repeated the obvious.

And I know this isn't very polically correct, but it's HISTORY, get over it already.

PR3SSUR3 12-01-2006 08:05 AM

Hmmm... so it's okay to call them niggers now, because they should be over it?

Highfive!

urgeok 12-01-2006 08:09 AM

get over it ?

it's very recent history ... things have happened within my lifetime ..

how does a white person tell all african americans to simply 'get over it' after what they went through for as long as they went through it ?

should the jews 'get over it' for what happened in germany ?

i'm not saying that they should let it become a barrior to moving forward ..

but get over it ?
if the situation was reversed i know i'd sure as fuck never 'get over it'

monalisa 12-01-2006 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3 (Post 516892)
Hmmm... so it's okay to call them niggers now, because they should be over it?

Highfive!


Did you read my previous post? I never said it was ok to call ANYONE names. BTW, my family history is that we are notherners, you know the folks that won the civil war that ended slavery. Keep your history and your comments correct please.

And who exactly are you "high fiving", your butt?

monalisa 12-01-2006 10:27 AM

Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard what the hecklers were saying to Kramer? Were they calling him names?


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