he made an effective switch from a rotund, jovial good old boy to a psycho .. especially at the time of the stare at the guy around the campfire

I strongly disagree. I think the dialogue/acting in Wolf Creek was very good. Very realistic, and not at all over the top.

Hostel, on the other hand...Jesus, it was horrible.

In my mind anything that is actually able to happen is always more scary then the fantastical, getting lost in the back country and having a strange man do all that stuff seems more able to happen then a man who can enter your dreams and kill you. which makes it scarier.

wolf creek was okay but i hated hostel.

I've seen Hostel but never bothered with Wolf Creek.

I enjoyed Wolf Creek. Nothing fancy, just good ol gritty fun Down Under.

I don't think Hostel is as bad as a lot of people proclaim it to be. Very disappointing, but not terrible. When they tout something to be the most gut wrenching, disgusting thing to come along in a long time, they forget that a lot of the hardcore horror crowd watches shit like The Guinea Pig series. Hell, gore-wise it doesn't even live up to Cabin Fever standards.

Hostel as jerk off material? You're kidding right? I watched it with my girlfriend and spoken to other girls about it. None have been bothered by it, in fact most have agreed even that was poorly done. I mean, if its core were much softer on the sex side it'd be marshmallow. I wouldn't say I was uncomfortable about it... bored by i maybe but not uncomfortable. Hell I see better than that on an average Saturday night out... Sunday... Monday... Tuesday etc etc. So if you think that's good believe me there's plenty out there that will blow your mind.

i watched hostel for the 1st time the other night n i got bored half way through it that i turned it off, n i dont like when peoples eyes get cut n stuff in films n people were telling me that the eye bit in hostel was really bad but when i watched it i was like is that it?

Perhaps none of them saw the unrated version then. i think return had the best reviews on both so far.

the point wasnt that there were lots of tits, its that they promised horrific torture, then flopped around 30 or so pairs of tits. oh yeah, then some horror.

Well, I for one enjoyed Hostel, although it is far from a classic by any accounts. Thing is, I saw a couple of reviews about it saying that it was a kind of mix between American Pie and Saw before seing it. So I entered the movie theater knowing what to expect and I it delivered just that. I saw this with my girlfriend, and she was not disgusted at all by the first part.

The opposite thing happened with Wolf Creek. I was so looking forward to this one, as it was hailed as very intense and disturbing, and it failed miserably on both points in my book. Good acting and character development, sure, but that's the only good thing it had in my opinion. Nothing remotely intense or disturbing in this one if you ask me.