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bwind22 11-29-2005 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
The Next Generation is underrated, and clearly the wheels of the bandwagon are rolling again here.

McConaughey and Zellwegger are just fine in the lead roles, and though the film is less violent and terrifying than the first (proving the rawness and cheap production values of the original helped to emphasise the horror) this virtual remake (in the Evil Dead/Evil Dead 2 sense) is slick and nasty enough for a second evaluation.

My conclusions for this unneccessary derision: general disdain for the movie's now A-list stars, comparison to the unsurpassable original, negative word-of-mouth.

Viewed as a standalone horror film, this is good stuff - and much less irritating than the postmodern self-referential shit like Scream that it preceded.

Now then -Halloween 3...

;)

The Next Generation isn't a remake of TCM. There are completely different characters and plot (Completely unlike Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 which is essentially the same exact story retold in the same way with the only differences being a slightly bigger budget and a shift towards cheesy humor.) Zelwegger's acting was shit in it. Matthew McConaughey acted fine, but his character was ridiculously stupid. My gripes with this film extend waaaaay beyond the lack of gore. The whole metal leg thing was stupid, but where this movie really took the plunge was when that retard showed up in the limo out of nowhere and claimed responsibility for all evil in the world. What the fuck? That was just flat out stupid. In my opinion, this piece of crap is right down there near the bottom of the barrel with House of the Dead, Frogs and Infested.

knife_fight 11-30-2005 03:39 AM

I would rank them in the order they were made.

and I love Halloween 3. I would take Halloween 3 over any of the last 3 Halloween movies any day. part of that could be nostalgia talking.

PR3SSUR3 11-30-2005 07:40 AM

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The Next Generation isn't a remake of TCM. There are completely different characters and plot (Completely unlike Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 which is essentially the same exact story retold in the same way with the only differences being a slightly bigger budget and a shift towards cheesy humor.) Zelwegger's acting was shit in it. Matthew McConaughey acted fine, but his character was ridiculously stupid. My gripes with this film extend waaaaay beyond the lack of gore. The whole metal leg thing was stupid, but where this movie really took the plunge was when that retard showed up in the limo out of nowhere and claimed responsibility for all evil in the world. What the fuck? That was just flat out stupid. In my opinion, this piece of crap is right down there near the bottom of the barrel with House of the Dead, Frogs and Infested
But the film exists in essence as a remake of the original, call it a re-telling by the original writer if you like - the key elements are the same even if the specifics are not.

There are several nods to the original in the movie, but they are not delivered in the smart-arse Craven-style that became so popular afterwards - this has become significant over the years.

I think the decent performances and impressive style of this piece overrides any negative marks about "stupidity" (the odd limo-guy included!) - wasn't Hooper's own sequel filled with some rather far-out, daft characters and scenes?

bwind22 12-06-2005 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
But the film exists in essence as a remake of the original, call it a re-telling by the original writer if you like - the key elements are the same even if the specifics are not.

There are several nods to the original in the movie, but they are not delivered in the smart-arse Craven-style that became so popular afterwards - this has become significant over the years.

I think the decent performances and impressive style of this piece overrides any negative marks about "stupidity" (the odd limo-guy included!) - wasn't Hooper's own sequel filled with some rather far-out, daft characters and scenes?

Yeah it was. And I wasn't a real huge fan of that one either.

I just rewatched TCM:TNG again last night. Zelwegger did a better job than I remembered and the plot was a bit cooler too (A small bit. I still graded it a D.), but the majority of the acting still sucked as did the limo guy and the lack of any cool kill scenes. All in all, just not an impressive movie... And who the fuck was flying that plane at the end came out of nowhere to clip Vilmer? That was something I just realized was never explained.

Yellow Jacket 12-07-2005 12:45 PM

TCM (original)
TCM (remake)

The rest suck and don't deserve to be on the list (I haven't seen the third yet though).

RavageRitual 12-07-2005 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jacob Singer
I've only seen 3
1-TCM original
2-TCM Remake
3-TCM 2

Your have to see Leatherface, Pretty damn good! lol

My List...

1) TCM
2) Leatherface
3) TCM (remake)
4) TCM 2
5) TCM 4: The Next Generation

alkytrio666 12-07-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
My bad, that post really wasn't clear at all. I was saying you didn't have to tell me Leatherface was better than Next Generation. And I was saying Leatherface is hard to find.
I got it in the $5.50 Wal-mart bin. Check yours.

Rocker911 12-11-2005 05:32 PM

I'm looking forward to the TCM prequel which is currently shooting in Austin. I've been reading all the cast interviews and it's sounding mighty good and horrificly bloody and gory, hope it's R-rated. Bring it on ! :cool:

bwind22 12-12-2005 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Rocker911
I'm looking forward to the TCM prequel which is currently shooting in Austin. I've been reading all the cast interviews and it's sounding mighty good and horrificly bloody and gory, hope it's R-rated. Bring it on ! :cool:
I certainly wouldn't expect it to be anything less than R rated. I'm hoping they put it out Unrated, but I know they won't... Not until DVD at least.

MisterSadistro 12-12-2005 01:31 AM

'TCM' (74). Period. Mosely was great in 2, but did it really have to have the 'TCM' monicker on it ? Dennis Hopper as a Bible quoting weirdo out to avenge anybody would've been watchable in my book.
As for the remake, the only things I liked were the new look Leatherface, the "hole through the head" camera shot (ala 'The Quick and The Dead') and that Jessica Biel girl wiggling into and out of every single shot afterwards :D How conveniently does a piglet just "happen" to be in a locker next to hers in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere when Leatherface Jr. is opening them ? :rolleyes:
CK


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