naw that wasnt it for me ..

it was the feel of the film .. the villians were goofy - it just didnt have a 'flow' to it ...

i LOVE Con Air for example ... nothing brilliant there - just fun characters ..

i didnt like anyone on Ghosts of Mars.

Dude, the best part of the film is the Martian Leader guy standing on the wall shouting "Yahh! Yahh! Aggaballagallaba! Mallagallballabbahhhh! Yahh!"

Although I have to say, that movie was a waste of Pam Grier. She gets killed so quick! And she's the one with the action film resume!

and the nice big t.........

sorry ... got thinking about my Pammy and got a little crazy there.

(she's been turning me on since the 70s)

Well that sort of goes without saying. I used to go out with a chick who looked a lot like Pam Grier. OMG!!!!! She was too much. And she had the, uhm, the "attributes." OMG!!!!! Nice girl. Sweet girl! Until you pissed her off by accident, and then she would turn into Foxy Brown and start kicking ass.

Great film... James Woods is fucking cool in it. But I've liked everything Carpenter has put out (except that shitty Invisible Man movie with Chevy Chase). Sure his new stuff isn't as good as his earlier work I still find it really enjoyable. Great B-Movie fun.

Hmmpf! Yet another Carpenter crap heap! Dreadful film, as most of his have been for the last 16 years or so.

James Woods deserves better.

..can agree with you that Carpenter hasnt made anything good for a long long time.....but I dont think "John Carpenter's Vampires" is his worst....

Bah! I still think he's great.

You too, huh? That is a guilty pleasure of mine (well, I have a lot of those, I like a lot of crap to be honest...heh).

I didn't like Ghosts of Mars either. It bored me. And this is coming from someone that, on occasion, can be embarrassingly easy to entertain. :p

"Con Air" is great stuff. Yes it may be cheesy and over the top...but it plays to those aspects and it's brilliantly made and perfromed. It's not a 'bad' film at all. It's actually a wonderful example of it's kind.

Stuff like "Vampires", "Ghosts of Mars" etc etc are just awful films full stop...there is no guilty pleasure aspect and "Con-Air" is a millions miles away from such efforts.