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Originally posted by The STE
At the risk of sounding redundant, I again have to draw a comparison between this and Zombi 2. The Beyond has 2 eyeball scenes, which is at least 1 too many and neither one of them are done right. It's just "eyeball gets gouged one way or another, check out the gorey and shitty effects". The eye isn't just gouged and it's over, sure. It's gouged for a little bit.
However, Zombi 2 has 1 eyeball scene. This one is done right. The eyeball is going through the shard of wood. You know that the second the shard of wood is anywhere near the eye. But Fulci makes you sit and wait for it. And THEN they gouge the eye nice and slow like.

Maybe if I'd seen more than 2 Fulci movies I could compare The Beyond to something besides Zombi 2.

again, i concur completely

some folks thing The Beyond is his best though ...

and some folks have sex with children, doesn't mean it makes a good movie

what if the children are good looking 18 year old girls ?

i'm old... 30 seems like children to me :)

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Originally posted by urgeok
what was cut out then ???

I have no idea.

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If you´ve seen 2 Fulci movies and didn´t like them, you don´t need to see anymore (Maybe "City of the dead"). They are all the same...

I´m not a big Fulci fan, but i like him better than Argento. They are both B-movie directors, in my eyes, but their prefered genres are very different indeed. Fulci is into zombies and Argento is into Slashers (always a psyco running around killing girls).
I just like zombie movies better than slashers... :)

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I´m not a big Fulci fan, but i like him better than Argento. They are both B-movie directors, in my eyes, but their prefered genres are very different indeed. Fulci is into zombies and Argento is into Slashers (always a psyco running around killing girls).

Fair enough. But I give Argento a lot more credit as a director. His movies are good. And all look and sound spectacular. I just think of Fulci as a shock director, whereas Argento brings you into some weird twisted , cool looking, fairy tale.

Fulci hardly directed any Zombie films.

And only *1* is a pure zombie film ("Zombi 2")

"City" has teleporting zombies, as does "The Beyond" and whether Fraudstein in "House" is a Zombie is still open to debate.

In his short period of prime creativity (with his regualr top notch crew with him) he was far from a hack and even in the cut n paste, copycat World of Italian horror of that period, his films are normally of far higher techniccal and artistic quality than most other films of that ilk (compare "Burial Ground" say to Fulci's zombie films..It's fun for sure, but it's nowhere near the techinal and visual standard of Fulci's films).

And the Giallo influence 9or total emmersion) of Argento's films mean they have actually very little in common with the traditional, very American, 'Slasher' sub-genre.
Even the best 'Slashers' are stripped down in content and style compared to Argento's flamoyant take on the psycho killer..

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Originally posted by TheOmen
Fair enough. But I give Argento a lot more credit as a director. His movies are good. And all look and sound spectacular. I just think of Fulci as a shock director, whereas Argento brings you into some weird twisted , cool looking, fairy tale.

i havent yet been able to lay my hands on the Argento boigraphy which i would love to read .. I'm betting he'll cite Hitchcock as a major influence.