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ELement 12-24-2003 10:50 PM

Re: freddy vs jason 2
 
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Originally posted by massacre man
there have been many rumors of f v j 2
freddy vs jason vs leatherface
freddy vs jason vs michael myers (i like michael best)
freddy vs jason vs chucky
but now they will most likely be doing
freddy vs jason vs ash

I wold love to see Freddy VS Jason VS Michael Myers, if not that Freddy VS JAson VS Leatherface! NOT FREDDY VS JASON VS CHUCKIE! That will kill the entire Freddy VS Jason Chuckie is a small doll these guys are big time. Freddy comes in dreams and takes out everyone. Jason just cut off head after head! Chuckie gets little kids and school teachers and ladies he would not last! Freddy VS Jason VS ash NO WAY!

ELement 12-24-2003 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by -Corn_Dude-
Oooooh, but you will, you will. There is The league of extraoridnary gentlemen... Freddy V.S. Jason... it's sequel... the upcoming Aliens V.S. Predator... Helsing... And those are only five that i know of.

Yup... you're gonna see a lot of V.S. movies in the futurem Moon... cause Hollwood has just discovered a new movie trend that does what it must do... bring the green. And it's not gonna stop until it sucks it dry, takes all the cash it can out of it and then replace it with a something new.

And, Btw, you can all be quite sure that there are LOTS of ways to bring Ash out of the "cult" to the "mainstream" zone. Magazines, special all 3 movie edition DVDs and computer games can make miracles for an unknown movie character.

WTF ae you are you thinking The Lueague of Extraordinary Gentlemen WTF that would be one suck a$$ movie.

_Leatha_Face_ 12-25-2003 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by ELement
WTF ae you are you thinking The Lueague of Extraordinary Gentlemen WTF that would be one suck a$$ movie.
yea i saw this movie a while back and it was horrible

avenger00soul 12-25-2003 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by _Leatha_Face_
yea i saw this movie a while back and it was horrible
Trust me guys, the comic book is great stuff. Don't let the flick turn you against the comic.

cheebacheeba 12-25-2003 04:53 PM

the comic still going is it?

avenger00soul 12-26-2003 05:38 AM

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Originally posted by cheebacheeba
the comic still going is it?
It's not an ongoing series. More like a graphic novel.

crazy clown 12-27-2003 07:16 PM

where can you find the comic at?

avenger00soul 12-27-2003 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by crazy clown
where can you find the comic at?
Comic book shops, Amazon.com, ebay, lots of other places I'm sure.

Neo Vortex 12-28-2003 09:51 AM

they could have uber jason v.s new nightmare freddy and make it be in the year 2456 and then the horror movie characters figt eachother with all new weapons....and well come on what else are they gonna do?Ash in Fv.s J 2?What the hell

crazy clown 12-28-2003 03:58 PM

i think that would be super cheesy. keep it the same please.

thanks for the tip avenger.

_Leatha_Face_ 12-28-2003 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Neo Vortex
they could have uber jason v.s new nightmare freddy and make it be in the year 2456 and then the horror movie characters figt eachother with all new weapons....and well come on what else are they gonna do?Ash in Fv.s J 2?What the hell
no i would not c it all horror movies in that r set in the future SUCK!

lyricist 12-29-2003 02:22 AM

Texas Chainsaw Massacre is set in the 1970's. Freddy vs. Jason is present day. If they flash forward to present day Leatherface would be a 50 or 60 year old man. He'd have a hell of a time keeping up.
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hahha. leatherface is a fat beer belly chainsaw carrying retard. cmon guys, how can a fat guy carrying a chainsaw possibly catch anyone. and in a battle with freddy and jason, it's bound to be long and sooner or later, he will run out of gas. then what? i still say my boy mike is the illest.

halloweenfan107 12-31-2003 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
I seriously hope they don't include anyone else in FVJ2.
i disagree with u :D as usual i disagree with everyone well almost everyone...but anyway...i think they should add Michael Myers into the whole mix. I mean that dude can take anything! Laurie has blown his ass up! burnt the shit out of him! electrocutied him....shot...fallen from god knows how high....he could withstand anything freddy or jason could throw at him....so basicly Mikey can do anything and will probably kick the shit out of Jason. I dont know about Freddy, cuz Freddy, is well Freddy. Welcome to my nightmare bitch! classic freddy! anyway Michael should be added into the mix. Not Leatherface, not the dude from hellrasier, not chucky, not ash, definatley not ash.

halloweenfan107 12-31-2003 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by thehalk
i think myers n freddy and jason would get millions of dallers cuse everone knows myers n freddy n jason n everyone would like to see that but the storey line would have some trubble

your absolutly right...except the whole story line part, i dont think it would have any trouble at all....heres what i think it could be..they people on elm street and all around they area start to take those pills again so they forget about freddy....freddy goes to haddonfield.....jason is still alive and he wants to get rid of freddy....so he goes to haddonfield as well...this pisses michael off cuz haddonfield is his terratory!! so he opens a huge can off whoop ass and hopefuly gets rid of jason cuz im sorry but the friday movies r so yesterday

_Leatha_Face_ 12-31-2003 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by halloweenfan107
your absolutly right...except the whole story line part, i dont think it would have any trouble at all....heres what i think it could be..they people on elm street and all around they area start to take those pills again so they forget about freddy....freddy goes to haddonfield.....jason is still alive and he wants to get rid of freddy....so he goes to haddonfield as well...this pisses michael off cuz haddonfield is his terratory!! so he opens a huge can off whoop ass and hopefuly gets rid of jason cuz im sorry but the friday movies r so yesterday
ur fogetting one thing freddy doesnt have a FUCKING body

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by halloweenfan107
i disagree with u :D as usual i disagree with everyone well almost everyone...but anyway...i think they should add Michael Myers into the whole mix. I mean that dude can take anything! Laurie has blown his ass up! burnt the shit out of him! electrocutied him....shot...fallen from god knows how high....he could withstand anything freddy or jason could throw at him....so basicly Mikey can do anything and will probably kick the shit out of Jason. I dont know about Freddy, cuz Freddy, is well Freddy. Welcome to my nightmare bitch! classic freddy! anyway Michael should be added into the mix. Not Leatherface, not the dude from hellrasier, not chucky, not ash, definatley not ash.
exactly what do you mean by definatly not ash you don't think he's good enough?

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 12:53 PM

i think they should have all the vs. movies and just get it over with instead of periodicly fucking up classic movies and ultimately pissing off the legends biggest fans (referring to us/and horror fans in general that like horror and don't think leprechaun is a good movie) they had freddy vs jason now there's going to be a freddy vs jason II i think this or possibly the third installment should be the last let whoever is going to win win and leave it at that then dimension needs to just go ahead and make michael vs pinhead or helloween whatever the hell they're going to call it and get it over with cause it's going to happen sooner or later then what the hell leprechaun vs chucky,ash vs leatherface,the creeper vs pumkinhead. then you've got it all chainsaw vs chainsaw-short crazy fuck vs short crazy fuck-demon vs demon-dead pissed off guy vs dead pissed off guy and well you sort creeper and pumkinhead out whatever way you want but the point i'm trying to make is vs movies just suck and they fuck up the whole legend or icon whatever you prefer to call it i don't want to see freddy vs jason 8 one was enough it was kool to see them fight but just leave it alone go ahead and make a vs movie and leave it at that we don't want to sit here and just keep watching vs movies make a good old fashion slasher film parents leave dumb teenager home who is'nt suppose to have company they do anyway and some psycho breaks in the house kills everybody but one then goes after him/her the rest of the movie and kills everyone who gets in his way whatever happened to that. 400 hundred years into the future jason has been cryogenicly frozen and picked up by a space ship thawed out and chases everybody around the space ship WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ALL ABOUT-a guy comes up with the idea that on halloween night he'll get some college students to go into the old myer's house to investigate and try and find out why michael went bad and when they go into the house michael who is under the house feasting on rats hears them and comes up into the house and chases them around while a group of halloween party goers help them out over the internet-I CAN'T EVEN PUT INTO WORDS HOW MUCH THAT PEICE OF TRASH PISSED ME OFF and now to conclude i would just like to say if anyone is in freddy vs jason II i would like it to be michael so he can redeem himself from that shit known has resurrection and kick both their asses.

crazy clown 12-31-2003 01:10 PM

that would suck if they have michael in freddy v jason 2. i mean come on, do you even think dimension would even let them have the rights to that character. i like michael myers a lot but i just couldn't see him in a versus movie. and why would he want to fight freddy or jason?

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 01:18 PM

i was just saying if anyone was to be in it i would personally like to see mike kick both their asses i know he's not and you asked why would he want to fight freddy or jason well i don't even think that matters at this point vs movies=money cause people who don't get into horror like me and you just want to see a kool movie they don't care about the reason freddy was fighting jason they just wanted to see it happen i don't think anybody should be in freddy vs jason II but freddy and jason but all i was saying is if someone was in it i would like it to be michael so he could redeem hisself from resurrection and kick freddy and jason's ass.

halloweenfan107 12-31-2003 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by _Leatha_Face_
ur fogetting one thing freddy doesnt have a FUCKING body

dude seriously, chill. its freddy, he lives in the dream world. he can grow a body back:D :D

halloweenfan107 12-31-2003 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
exactly what do you mean by definatly not ash you don't think he's good enough?
Its just that people would rather see a big crazy ass killer, like michael, leather face, freddy, jason, not a human that would lose in a snap

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 02:17 PM

lose in a snap like he did in evil dead I II and III.

halloweenfan107 12-31-2003 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
lose in a snap like he did in evil dead I II and III.

you dont let down easily do you? ive only seen the first evil dead and that was enough for me...i didnt find it scary at all. anyway just saying that people would rather see a crazy killer

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 02:27 PM

i get your point i was just saying you don't count out anybody with a sawed off double barrel shotgun and a chainsaw for a right hand not to mention he's pretty damn crazy hisself not as crazy as those three but crazy in a human fighting demons sort of way.(it's obvious i could'nt explain that)

halloweenfan107 12-31-2003 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
i get your point i was just saying you don't count out anybody with a sawed off double barrel shotgun and a chainsaw for a right hand not to mention he's pretty damn crazy hisself not as crazy as those three but crazy in a human fighting demons sort of way.(it's obvious i could'nt explain that)
i get what your saying

Freddy Krueger. 12-31-2003 03:32 PM

I've been saying this over and over, the makers of the soon to come (maybe) Freddy Vs Jason 2, should never, ever, add Ash to the battle! For Crist sakes he wouldn't even have enough power to lay a finger on Freddy Krueger and/or Jason Voorhees! The makers should just leave it to its true, two amazing killers, Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees!

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Freddy Krueger.
I've been saying this over and over, the makers of the soon to come (maybe) Freddy Vs Jason 2, should never, ever, add Ash to the battle! For Crist sakes he wouldn't even have enough power to lay a finger on Freddy Krueger and/or Jason Voorhees! The makers should just leave it to its true, two amazing killers, Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees!
what's jason a dead dude pissed off cause his mom died

what's freddy a demon

what was the evil dead trilogy about ash fighting off and eventually getting rid of demons and dead people now as for freddy if him and ash meet in the dream world then hey ash as about a good a chance as the magic have playing the lakers but as far as the real world ash could hang with both jason and freddy jason is big and strong as hell but as the 5'8 160 pound freddy proved if he does'nt get his hands on you he can't do anything and i'll take a quick guy with a chainsaw,double barrel shotgun,a thinking process and the experience of a very fucked up weekend over a big,slow,stupid guy with a machette.

and as for freddy in the real world (besides the whole dead thing) he's just a normal person he does'nt have those powers in the real world all he can do is stand there and fight i'm not saying he can't i'm just saying that's all he would be able to do so if ash is in freddy vs jason II i like his chances.

ELement 12-31-2003 03:53 PM

This is what I want to see half the movie Freddy VS Jason then after one dies I want to see MIchael Myers somehow come into the movie THAT WOULD KICK ASS!:D

ELement 12-31-2003 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
what's jason a dead dude pissed off cause his mom died

what's freddy a demon

what was the evil dead trilogy about ash fighting off and eventually getting rid of demons and dead people now as for freddy if him and ash meet in the dream world then hey ash as about a good a chance as the magic have playing the lakers but as far as the real world ash could hang with both jason and freddy jason is big and strong as hell but as the 5'8 160 pound freddy proved if he does'nt get his hands on you he can't do anything and i'll take a quick guy with a chainsaw,double barrel shotgun,a thinking process and the experience of a very fucked up weekend over a big,slow,stupid guy with a machette.

and as for freddy in the real world (besides the whole dead thing) he's just a normal person he does'nt have those powers in the real world all he can do is stand there and fight i'm not saying he can't i'm just saying that's all he would be able to do so if ash is in freddy vs jason II i like his chances.




AS FOR YOU AS A HORROR MOVIE FAN YOU JUST SUCK BUDDIE!

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 04:07 PM

how bout this...

freddy and jason are fighting and the fight spills over into a store called s mart and the last guy left in the store doing a little cleaning about lock up lets say his name is ashley and what the hell s mart happens to be located in Haddonfield,Illinois just a few blocks from a house that used to be owned by a nice family until their son killed his sister and lets just throw this into the mix it's October 31st and ashley desides to hide in that house owned by that nice family.

would'nt all that be something to watch?

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by ELement
AS FOR YOU AS A HORROR MOVIE FAN YOU JUST SUCK BUDDIE!
and why is that?

ELement 12-31-2003 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
how bout this...

freddy and jason are fighting and the fight spills over into a store called s mart and the last guy left in the store doing a little cleaning about lock up lets say his name is ashley and what the hell s mart happens to be located in Haddonfield,Illinois just a few blocks from a house that used to be owned by a nice family until their son killed his sister and lets just throw this into the mix it's October 31st and ashley desides to hide in that house owned by that nice family.

would'nt all that be something to watch?


Actually that would be a pretty BOREING, movie it would put me 2 sleep then I can dream about Freddy VS Jason 2!

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 04:13 PM

element i was totally with you on michael myers being in freddy vs jason II and what i said about freddy and jason about them being a dead pissed off dude and a demon and ash having a chance if he were in the movie i honestly think he would why don't you?

AUSTIN316426808 12-31-2003 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by ELement
Actually that would be a pretty BOREING, movie it would put me 2 sleep then I can dream about Freddy VS Jason 2!
dude it was just a joke i'm just wondering but why are you just lashing out at me all of a sudden.

ELement 12-31-2003 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
dude it was just a joke i'm just wondering but why are you just lashing out at me all of a sudden.
NAH DUDE i wuz j/k man As for the ther question ASH I don't think he standz a chance with Freddy or Jasn But if Michael was to come into the movie THA WOULD KICK ASS!

cheebacheeba 12-31-2003 04:37 PM

just thought I'd post again....
 
Hey guys,
Just thought I'd point out a thing or two...
*Ash WILL be in F vs J 2, if there is one.....Ronnie Yu has CONFIRMED that.
A lot of people in here seem to be saying that Ash wouldn't stand a chance against either of the "hard hitters" in F vs J 2, I personally disagree with that.
Both Jason, AND Freddy, however "invincible" they are, regardless of the fact that they are "immortal"...etc, I feel I just have to say, that in pretty much each and every one of their previous films, they've been at least "temporarily" put down by none other than a MERE MORTAL, an underdog who simply out-thought the "bad-guy"...
These people didn't have chainsaws, they weren't ever particularly physically fit (not all of them anyway), they didn't have a shotgun, and they DEFINATELY didn't have a demon head-count of around 100+....
So, if these mere mortal underdogs of past movies have managed to bitchslap the big-boys, (irrespective of the fact that someone eventually wants to drag them back to life to sponge some more cash out of each of their franchises), well, isn't Ash about the biggest, meanest and most resourcefull underdog they'll have ever come up against???
Think about it...
Oh yeah, I've also posted what's below before, but thought I'd give you guys a look again since the topic of a F vs J sequel has been dragged up again, see what you think...
Ok, Let’s say after the events of Army of Darkness, Ash DOES get back to his own time, as per the non-directors cut version of A.O.D...After taking down that witch thing towards the end, he realises (hey, obviously) there’s still some f***ed-up “evil dead” type stuff going on, and decides to go torch the cabin so nobody else can f*** with the book and/or cassette player.....whatever.
However, it turns out he’s already too late, as a few family members of the rednecks from ED2 go looking for their relatives (sisters, lovers…etc), and have found the cabin, and decided that “If’n there aint nobody in it, it’s ours hee-haw…”, so, obviously it’s only a matter of time before they come across the book and cassette player, and cause the evil-dead shit to hit the fan again....

Meanwhile down in hell, most of the remnants of the spirits (or spirit) of the deadites from the first two ED films are dwelling in the same area (I know, this would require an addition to the original ED idea of them just dying again when “chopped”) as, coincidentally, the "thought to be dead" head of freddy, and Jason, both at this point lying dormant....
I should explain here that I DO know that in the end of F vs J, that the setting still appeared to be Crystal lake, but obviously something funny was going on, as Freddys head, severed in the “real world”, wouldn’t have winked otherwise. There’s a few directions that situation could take, but the one I’ll stick with for a while is that at the point of their double-kill death, they were in fact dragged immediately down to hell, were Freddy had just enough power to maintain the crystal lake illusion, and is biding his time in hell, thinking of a “plan” against Jason, or to escape.
Now, due to the incantations playing above, and the book, the deadites start stirring, and are, well, slowly pulled back up to our reality…Now, as the woods have been so evil, and cursed or whatever for so long, as well as the deadites (who don’t all necessarily have to be recognisable as the original characters, and could also be past deadites we haven’t seen b4 either) it's also easier for all manner of beings/spirits…etc to come back up topside, soooo, freddys uh, essence takes advantage, and “floats” on up with the rest of the deadites, gloating at the form of the dormant Jason , saying “pussy”, or something of that nature….of course this wakes Jason, and seeing his “victim” getting away, naturally gives chase and ends up riding the wave back to our reality.

From then on, F AND J (and the deadite “ghosts”) are taken back in by the fog thing that runs the show (you GOTTA know what I’m talking about here), F and J are taken to be just two more deadites, and are restored into full (and then some) capacity, as are the rest of the deadites, who could also maybe be a little “upgraded” (but not by any means, in jason x style) and be a bit meaner than their previous incarnations....
Anywhay, that's how they all get back, F and J are still pissed off at eachother, still fighting, but let’s say that due to the “tweaking” they got from the fog thing (if it’s NOT already considered an entity, perhaps something could be established in the storyline at some point so that the fog thing is seen to be a viable being, or conscious collective at least), their powers have been kinda spliced, allowing jason some supernatural freddy-ish powers (that they can both now use on earth, thanx to the fog thing) and ALSO allowing freddy to be more than just a punching-bag for Jason, and maybe a tad bigger…(or he could even go further into the demonic form we saw in F vs J)
Ok, well, that’s the majority of what was on my mind, but I though of a few other cool things that could go down in the movie….this parts just not in as much depth…

So anyway, back to Ash…he rocks up, wanting to destroy the cabin...

*the rednecks can just be the "cannon" fodder for the film (‘cos you know everyone loves to see an annoying redneck die)

*the deadites are around there for constant attacks on all parties including F and J

* maybe throw in a few local police (and of course, one female cop that'll survive til the end with ash....bleeeugh...)

*Somehow get Freddy and/or Jason alerted to the fact that if Ash succeeds, their ass is history, again....so, they would of course stop fighting, and go after Ash and co.
*Oh yeah, glad I just remembered this one…I have seen many posts saying that Ash just isn’t “superhuman” enough to be a “contender” against F or J…There’s also a lot of talk about how “Evil Ash” would potentially be more of a hard-case (not that I myself agree to this) to take on. First of all, Ash is a pretty resourceful guy, and has quiet the demon headcount to his name, remember this. However, a lot of ppl that have been posting have forgotten about yet another Ash, the “Deadite Ash” from ED2…Now, the deadite strength IS pretty superhuman isn’t it? IF somehow Ash could find a passage in the book that could turn him into this this more powerful form, AND allow him to control himself while in it, I THINK THAT WOULD BE COOL, (but he would definitely need a new look, the last deadite ash looked kinda stupid…maybe a hybrid between Ash and deadite) not to mention the fact that he could then potentially be seen as a “familiar”, and also have influence over the other deadites, adding to his advantage.

*Another (albeit far fetched) idea I had after re-reading through this myself, is again about Ash attempting to find some "solution" in the book.... what if he Fucked up YET ANOTHER incantation, and throughout the film, he transmutes between Ash, Evil Ash, and Deadite/Ash hybrid?? THAT, I'm sure would settle all your posted arguments about which Ash would hold his own against F and J best....

*And here's a great idea....how about making it A LITTLE DAMN LONGER than the first one??

there ya go....and hey....maybe Freddy and Ash could trade one-liners....?

ELement 12-31-2003 05:00 PM

Damn why don't you just write the movie!

cheebacheeba 12-31-2003 05:04 PM

does that mean ya like it?

ELement 12-31-2003 05:08 PM

Yeah plus you made a lot of good points!

cheebacheeba 12-31-2003 05:11 PM

Go tell Ronnie Yu to give me a call...heh....


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