Whether the themes presented in Bride of Frankenstein are "overdone" or "generic" is not a fact of science.

I like the irony of the monster making his jailbreak on the proclamation of it being a resolved minor problem.
I see you dislike science. Take a gander at the predominant themes in literature and film since the dawn of literature and film.

HAHAHAHAHAHA... what a silly lot of twaddle.

I'm being trolled by a mod. That's rich. ::big grin::

Yes, there's a troll about, indeed...

I point out your cynical and hipsterish attitude about a film that has been lauded by many as not only one of the greatest horror films ever made, but one of the best films ever made, and for that I am told I hate science and I've never read a book in my life.

And I'M the one who's trolling?


Sorry for the hijack, Chrono...

I have finished my viewing and give Bride a 10/10 on its merits of pre-climax narrative, conclusive theme, horror aesthetic, and stellar performances.

I do have a few quibbles, some of which were previously discussed, but nothing that would warrant a point deduction. Although the lever of doom ending is narratively weak, it has tremendous cinematic appeal, and as the primary goal of a movie is to be VISUALLY interesting, it works well.

Some of these themes cinematically predate Bride. I must rewatch Metropolis to determine how much it influenced Bride.

I wish they had used the bookend, with a less subtle meta-comparison between Mary and the Bride.

Great point. She is merely there to reject him (and die), as she should be. Honestly, I expected more backlash from the "OMG I need oodles of characterization or I can't relate" crowd. ::big grin::

Missed both....been a bit under the weather since Sunday

Will try to hop on next one

Sorry to hear you've been sick. Hope you're better soon!

I decided to watch Son of Frankenstein tonight in preparation for tomorrow. I had seen it before, but it's been awhile. I will also try to watch Frankenstein as well (that I have seen several times, but I missed Sunday's viewing). I might end up re-watching Bride before the film tomorrow too, not sure.

I decided in favor of one I have not seen in the place of the original Frankenstein. The film I chose was Ghost of Frankenstein. I will try to fit in House of Frankenstein tomorrow, I have never seen that one either. As time permits, I will see which ones, if any, I will rewatch. I get home around 2:15-2:30 CST, so I will just see where I feel like going.

Sorry I've totally missed the first 2 movies but my sister-in-law just had her baby so its been a little crazy around here lately. I'm going to try and be available for today because I love Young Frankenstein so hard core.

I've been thinking about this a lot on my commute this morning, especially the latter point about the Bride's role in the film - I'll comment more once I can organize my thoughts and have a break from work.

I already know that I am going to watch the film again; I need to put some space between the previous viewing.



Bummer! Pneumonia seems to be making the rounds - Suffered through it the last couple of weeks... Hope you're on the mend!



Tell me about Son of Frankenstein - I'm honestly curious; is this a franchise that can hold up so many sequels?



Well congrats to your SIL!!

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OK Fellow Fiends - I'm pretty psyched about tonight's viewing...


YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN (1974)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...psc5b60580.jpg

Why did I pick this movie?

Despite it being an obvious and incredibly entertaining choice, the fact is - It's been a REALLY long time since I've seen it. And I am really interested to view it so closely to having seen Frankenstein and Bride. I'm especially excited that I'll be able to understand more of the Bride callbacks with this viewing.


SPEAKING of Frankenstein-related comedies - How many others can you name and are they worth watching?


The showing is at 8:00p.m. EST - I'll log on prior to post the link to meetings.io.

Hope to "see" you then!

The first one that comes immediately to mind is Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein. Hilarious! And, you also get Dracula and the Wolf Man! I highly recommend it.

BTW, I don't think I'm going to be able to make it tonight, sorry.

*Possible Spoilers*

I briefly described my thoughts in the vintage thread, but, yes, I really enjoyed it. The basic plot is that Frankenstein's son comes to Frankenstein's castle, I did not catch why, but does not really intend to continue his father's work. He believes that what his father did was good, but that certain circumstances resulted in the infamous disaster. Though, he does add that he believes the stories are greatly exaggerated. As you would expect, he does end up continuing his father's work by reviving the monster. Much of the rest of the film is chacterized by his interaction with Igor and the monster, as well as the Inspector. Ultimately, culminating in the destruction of the monster. I know some of it sounds a little standard, but it really isn't. The story is really interesting and it definitely takes the series in a fascinating direction. Even though the whole "son of" plot may sound cliché, it really is done quite well. I was captivated from beginning to end. One of the strongest reasons for this captivation is the strong characters. While they are all well done, particular note must be given to Bela Lugosi as Ygor. In fact, that whole sub-plot was quite brilliant. In my personal opinion, the film did not have the depth that the original or Bride had, but it was a solid sequel. As neverending said on the vintage thread, the first three films form a very strong and high-quality trilogy, which the later ones just never matched. I have not seen House of Frankenstein yet, but from the Frankenstein films I have seen, I would have to agree, though I know Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man was not bad. In truth, while the later films may not match the original three, they are all worth a watch.

As a seperate note, on that vintage thread I mentioned, hammerfan said she would post her review of the film later in case you were interested.

I'm really not as good as the rest of you at putting my thoughts in writing. A big draw from me that everyone leaves out is the fact that Basil Rathbone plays Wolf Frankenstein. I've always loved his work, and feel that he does some of his best in this movie. Yes, Bela Lugosi is great, too. The little boy (Wolf's son) is a hoot.

Yeah, that's all I have. Otherwise, I'd be repeating what neverending and metternich have said.

Ygor is one of my favorite Lugosi portrayals. He's so sly and conniving. And hammerfan is right- Rathbone is great as Wolf von Frankenstein. The iconic battle of wits/game of darts scene between he and Inspector Krogh is masterfully parodied by Brooks in Young Frankenstein.

Let me add that Inspector Krogh, played by Lionell Atwill, a B-level horror icon, is a fascinating character. His backstory leads to a pivotal moment in the film that I won't spoil....

OK Horror Fiends!

I'm getting ready for Frankenstein Viewing #3:

YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN

This is a movie that my parents have always loved and quoted incessantly when I was younger, so this also has very fond memories for me...

Here's the meetings.io link:

m1.io/3nnsyhjY1iK

I'll probably be putzing around so if you see an empty chair for a tick, I'll be right back!

Oh my god, my childhood (up to this point) was that movie. It was one of the first movies I ever saw.

Looks like I lost you ChronoGrl...lol.

Yeah... Internet died on my laptop... Troubleshooting now...

Back in! I blame Xfinity. Just pushed PLAY - Sorry for the delay!!

Room does not exist!

The current room you are looking for does not exist.

Please check your url and try again..

Tried to login, but the system got hungup on flash player settings- it refused to believe I don't have a webcam or mic.

On top of that, the sound was way overamped, and whoever was "ST. Louis" typing on his keyboard sounded like a thunderstorm played triple time.

On top of that, I misunderstood it was one of those video chats like Jen ran a few years ago that broadcast the movie as well. Since I don't have the movie..

One top of that, I didn't have the buttons on the bottom for typing chat either.

So, faced with the prospect of listening to a couple people watch a movie I'm not watching, sound echoing and feeding back, while I can't participate in any way, I bailed.

Maybe try this?

http://m1.io/3nnsyhjY1iK



Sorry for the trouble and that I'm not as sophisticated as Jen. ::sad::

I don't understand the issue with the chat; maybe I could find a different site for the next viewing!

St. Louis would be me, not sure why typing was loud, I am on a laptop.

already tried that from your facebook page

must be some firewall issue on my comp.

will tinker a bit

"Firewall"?? Then how do you access all your porn??

ha

this is what the help says:

You may have a firewall that's blocking your connection to the meeting.

Please check your firewall settings and unsure that your UDP ports are not blocked.
Meetings.io runs on a pure P2P (peer to peer) architecture meaning you connect directly to your meeting peers from your computer to theirs. For direct P2P connections to work you need to enable UDP such that a connection can be made directly with your peers.

it may as well be in French

buhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Well Young Frankenstein was a LOT of fun - At my place I was joined by the hubby and another couple and online we were joined by metternich1815...

A few notes before I crash...

WOW I had forgotten how incredibly brilliantly funny Marty Feldman & Gene Wilder are, everything from broad physical humor to the one-liners. The movie is so incredibly tight - Even with how Wilder, Feldman, and Gar crowd together in mock gravity scene over scene...
I could watch this on must and still guffaw with the mugs that Feldman makes!
I never really 'got' the humor to the Inspector, but metternich1815 explained that that's more of a nod to Son of Frankenstein, which I've never seen. I don't find him very funny, to be honest, but would probably appreciate it more if I had seen the original mold.
Madeline Kahn and Gar are also brilliant. Every word and line delivered perfectly. They must have had a BLAST on that set.

Oh, and this:



OMG.

So.

Many.

Funny.

Scenes.


What's your favorite?

Also - Has anyone else seen Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother with Feldman and Wilder? I'm going to have to watch it again.

I think that my only complaint is that it does run a bit long in the middle (I can't even identify specific scenes, but I think that it could have been a bit shorter).

However, still holds up and still is brilliant.

Looking forward to hear your thoughts on this movie and other Frankenstein films!

"Put.... the candle... back! "

::sad::

Also, you need to put the Inspector in perspective of Kenneth Mars' performances in all Mel Brooks' films. In every single one he has some weird accent and in this one he's pretty much unintelligible.


Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother is a funny film, but brilliant is not a word I would use to describe it.

Absolutely love Young Frankenstein, really disappointed to have missed this viewing with you guys.... Mel Brooks, Gene Wilder et al. are a bit of an acquired taste over here, with plenty of my friends over the years really not fans of Brooks' work.

As for Kenneth Mars that's what he does and I guess you either like it or can do without it. I think he's great though, in a film filled with great performances he still manages to do his thing. And his performance in The Producers is unforgettable. He went on to have a pretty solid career in voice work and I thought he was great in Malcolm in the Middle playing the German Hotel owner, stealing every scene he's in with his ridiculous style.

The Puttin' on the Ritz scene might be one of my favourites in any comedy, ever. Perfection.

He's hit or miss for me. He had a period where he made 4 or 5 of the funniest films ever made, and then, after that, a sharp decline.

I am a big Mel Brooks fan myself. I am sure some people will disagree, but I absolutely loved Dracula: Dead and Loving it. I thought it was downright hilarious. As for my favorite scene, that is a hard one. I loved the scene when Elizabeth comes to the castle, the one with the hand after the cemetery is another one, the darts scene with the inspector, the putting on the Ritz scene. Honestly, almost the entire film.

High Anxiety

a very funny tribute to Alfred Hitchcock

Mel Brooks definitely runs hot and cold for me too... Spaceballs, for example, I think the parts are greater than its whole (the Alien scene being amazing)... History of the World I really don't think is that great with the exception of The Inquisition musical (mwahahaha) and the fake trailers (HITLER ON ICE!!) - I remember loving Silent Movie when I was little and I REALLY need to see High Anxiety.

Back to the topic of Frankenstein movies... Question for you folks... Do you consider The Golem tale and movies to be analogous to the Frankenstein mythos? What makes me think about it is mainly the Monster being the downfall of the Creator, so maybe that's too simplistic...

Finally finished Bride of Frankenstein. I loved it. Not as much as the original as i prefer a good old fashioned monster story but there was so much more story in this one. There was a lot of depth to the monster's character and even though i didn't like the fact that he talked, the humanization of his character was a smart move to make. The bride was fantastic and i liked that she wasn't a major character and instead was the focal point of the film and they built up the suspense over her being made and the monster having a mate only to have it ultimately end up the way it did. Fantastic ending and a well done movie all throughout.

9/10

Yah, The Golem is pretty similar to Frankenstein.

Wow- that was insightful wasn't it?


It's Sunday night. I'm tired.::roll eyes::