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The Villain 06-11-2012 04:42 PM

I honestly don't know how to feel about this

Bob Gray 06-11-2012 08:44 PM

I really don't either. I would love to see a great adaptation of IT and I do have hope. The fact that it will be split into two movies may allow enough room to really tell the tale but until I know the script is staying true to the story I will remain skeptical. A few years ago they were in talks to remake IT but the studio wanted it to be just one movie and the timeline had changed so that the Losers grew up in the 80's and were adults in the 2000's. Those two things would have completely ruined it. If they try to do any stupid sh*t like that, I won't even bother watching it.

Posher778 06-12-2012 08:05 AM

Tired of being tossed around hearing about who is and isn't directing this.


Who.
Is.
The.
Clown?

wizard of gore 06-12-2012 12:38 PM

ahh need to hurry up and read the book

Fearonsarms 06-17-2012 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wizard of gore (Post 926888)
ahh need to hurry up and read the book

Me too but boy it's long and taking me a while even in ebook form so I haven't the excuse of needing my specs.

Angra 07-02-2016 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 926875)
Tired of being tossed around hearing about who is and isn't directing this.


Who.
Is.
The.
Clown?

Apparently Bill Skarsgard.

Kind of an odd choice if you ask me. Sure, he will probably look creepy as a clown but can he SOUND creepy as well? And he's very young..

Ms.Macabre_91 07-03-2016 09:30 AM

I have mixed feelings when it comes to remake,but I'll give it a watch just for curiosity sake.

SerialKiller 07-06-2016 09:03 AM

Dislike remakes 99% of the time. Watching anyways just for fun.

anglewitch 07-06-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SerialKiller (Post 1015100)
Dislike remakes 99% of the time. Watching anyways just for fun.

100% for me...
Then again I enjoyed the step father 3 remake. So actually yeah 99%

RollinFan 07-19-2016 09:04 PM

So is the remake going to have all six boys having sex with the girl, or are we all going to pretend that isn't a big part of the book? Or are we going to bump all of the kids up to 18 year olds, like the US version of "The Returned"? I think this particular bit of quicksand is what keeps stalling the remakes on this one. And I agree, the bit at the end of the TV movie, with the bicycle? Truly awful. Makes you throw things at the TV.

cheebacheeba 07-20-2016 03:26 AM

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100% for me...
Then again I enjoyed the step father 3 remake. So actually yeah 99%
Cmon...Dawn '04?

Angra 07-20-2016 12:52 PM

What do you guys think of the choice of actor for Pennywise?

jwilliams 07-21-2016 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 1015122)
100% for me...
Then again I enjoyed the step father 3 remake. So actually yeah 99%

Am I the only one who enjoyed Amityville Horror and The Hills Have Eyes remakes?

horrifyou 07-21-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams (Post 1015501)
Am I the only one who enjoyed Amityville Horror and The Hills Have Eyes remakes?

Yeah, I think you are the only one. My co-host and I constantly have this argument so perhaps you (or anyone) can weigh in - why not just watch the originals? No remake has ever been better than the original (by definition it can't) so why not just leave well enough alone and watch the original?

Dante
http://horrifyou.com

Anchen 07-29-2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 1015489)
What do you guys think of the choice of actor for Pennywise?

Supremely unconvinced, expectations overwhelmingly low.

But who knows, maybe some 26-year old, kind of odd-looking Swedish dude was part of the director's vision. Maybe he was all they could afford. Maybe de has a really pushy agent determined to make him a horror icon after he starred in Hemlock Grove.

Bah, I think they're going to screw it up, which would blow, because the next generation of kids deserve the same chance to be traumatized-by-clown as we had.

Angra 08-02-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anchen (Post 1015672)
Supremely unconvinced, expectations overwhelmingly low.

But who knows, maybe some 26-year old, kind of odd-looking Swedish dude was part of the director's vision. Maybe he was all they could afford. Maybe de has a really pushy agent determined to make him a horror icon after he starred in Hemlock Grove.

Bah, I think they're going to screw it up, which would blow, because the next generation of kids deserve the same chance to be traumatized-by-clown as we had.

As the original movie was very far from being a great adaption of Stephen King's masterpiece, I do have hopes for this one. Especially the ending.

jwilliams 08-12-2016 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by horrifyou (Post 1015505)
Yeah, I think you are the only one. My co-host and I constantly have this argument so perhaps you (or anyone) can weigh in - why not just watch the originals? No remake has ever been better than the original (by definition it can't) so why not just leave well enough alone and watch the original?

Dante
http://horrifyou.com

You mean ANY remake or just remakes of those two horrors I mentioned?

Jake.Ashworth 08-17-2016 11:27 AM

I think the new Pennywise looks excellent. People are complaining but I like the idea that he would draw from the looks of an era past. It makes sense seeing as he has existed forever. We also don't know if the released picture is Bad Pennywise or attractive Good Pennywise. People are jumping to conclusions way to fast.

hammerfan 08-17-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 1016478)
I think the new Pennywise looks excellent. People are complaining but I like the idea that he would draw from the looks of an era past. It makes sense seeing as he has existed forever. We also don't know if the released picture is Bad Pennywise or attractive Good Pennywise. People are jumping to conclusions way to fast.

Agreed

brainscan 08-17-2016 11:53 AM

it looks like it will be OK, and maybe this will help some people. I think of every remake as a multiverse of the original. The made of TV movie Turtles Forever helped me with that so whenever there is a remake i think of it as that universes original so that makes it OK, Yeah things are a little different each time but that is because that is how it happened in that universe. It's like ours the Prime and the remakes are different branches of it in the other universes. It helped me a lot to be able to enjoy more movies ^_^

anglewitch 08-17-2016 12:19 PM

If it's a remake of a film that is already good it's going to stink! Besides it wouldn't have the same great quality as the original. PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION!

Jake.Ashworth 08-18-2016 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 1016489)
If it's a remake of a film that is already good it's going to stink! Besides it wouldn't have the same great quality as the original. PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IMAGINATION!

Even if the original was a made for TV mini series that technically was a poor adaptation of a excellent book. I would tell you this, read the book, then rewatch the miniseries, then make judgment's about the new one.

Your generalizing a much broader sub genre of horror (the remake) most movies are "remakes" with enough tweaks to make you forget there was an original.

Jake.Ashworth 08-18-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brainscan (Post 1016485)
it looks like it will be OK, and maybe this will help some people. I think of every remake as a multiverse of the original. The made of TV movie Turtles Forever helped me with that so whenever there is a remake i think of it as that universes original so that makes it OK, Yeah things are a little different each time but that is because that is how it happened in that universe. It's like ours the Prime and the remakes are different branches of it in the other universes. It helped me a lot to be able to enjoy more movies ^_^

An interesting take, are you a Dark Tower fan? Your mindset would fit in well with us. If you haven't read it yet, you should give it a try.

People stress too much about a remake being the same. If they wanted to make the same movie they wouldn't put forth the effort. Regardless of weather a movie is a remake it needs to be taken in as a whole new movie. Enjoy what it does well and allow it to capture the imaginations of a whole new era of genre fans.

brainscan 08-18-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 1016579)
An interesting take, are you a Dark Tower fan? Your mindset would fit in well with us. If you haven't read it yet, you should give it a try.

People stress too much about a remake being the same. If they wanted to make the same movie they wouldn't put forth the effort. Regardless of weather a movie is a remake it needs to be taken in as a whole new movie. Enjoy what it does well and allow it to capture the imaginations of a whole new era of genre fans.

i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too. and no i never got into Dark Tower

Jake.Ashworth 08-23-2016 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brainscan (Post 1016581)
i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too. and no i never got into Dark Tower

New ideas are really an idea of their own. Almost anything, no matter how fresh it is, can be tied back to a base story that relates to another movie. This new IT, I have very high hopes for. The little clips that leaked out from behind the scenes already show The Leper, who was in the book but never in the original movie. The problem so far with all of the Stephen King adaptations is that he puts so much amazing, imaginative detail in the stories, that most studios don't want to front the money to make real on screen. So far it seems that they are fronting the money on this one. Hopefully we get four hours of solid, brutal, R rated filth. Its really what the first one should have been, and could have been had it not been shot for TV.

We also need to remember as a whole, that Pennywise was one of MANY forms IT took in the book. It was the most memorable, but not the only by any means. It preys on your fears and finds a recognizable way to destroy you. I recommend going into this "remake" as though it where its own stand alone film, also, read the book first.

As for the Tower, it calls some and passes by many. But it is by far my favorite story ever written. Its beautiful and grotesque and infatuating all in one. I cant wait to see it on screen in February.

anglewitch 08-23-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brainscan (Post 1016581)
i agree but, also i do think they are making a lot of remakes and do believe that they should come up with original ideas too.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I could write a script for a short film with original ideas right now if I wanted to. You wanna know why and how? Because I read books. Reading books of different genres will give you the mind of a great director! A lot of these people who do remakes of GOOD films are bloody zombie vegetables. There's an infinite source of ideas out there that are just itching to be molded into form, but do we use them? NO! Instead we use other peoples ideas!

Jake.Ashworth 08-24-2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 1017014)
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I could write a script for a short film with original ideas right now if I wanted to. You wanna know why and how? Because I read books. Reading books of different genres will give you the mind of a great director! A lot of these people who do remakes of GOOD films are bloody zombie vegetables. There's an infinite source of ideas out there that are just itching to be molded into form, but do we use them? NO! Instead we use other peoples ideas!

More agreeing to disagree. I don't think there are any original ideas left. At least a self admitted remake/reboot is not trying to cover up how trivial it truly is to try to make an original film. At the end of the day, its us, the silly public that don't want to see the movies we loved as children remade. I think we are generally scared that a remake will be better, thus breaking our childhood so we se them through shit colored glasses. Go back and watch IT, I watched it again over the weekend with my oldest son (9), its a bad movie... Of course Tim Curry is great and they had excellent child actors, but the movie is not good and its a terrible representation of the book. What worse is, if you go back and watch a lot of the "classics" that we fear being remade, they aren't good movies. But they where awesome when we saw them as kids. I say remake them all, then remake the remakes. Its not like there has been shit for original films in the last five years that have been worth a damn anyway.

anglewitch 08-24-2016 02:03 PM

Has man sunk so low to have forgotten the gift of literature?
There are plenty of ideas out there. I am suprised that certain stories such as Soloman Kane, Robert Asprins MYTH series, and certain Agatha Christie stories have not been made into movies or tv shows.

Jake.Ashworth 08-25-2016 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 1017081)
Has man sunk so low to have forgotten the gift of literature?
There are plenty of ideas out there. I am suprised that certain stories such as Soloman Kane, Robert Asprins MYTH series, and certain Agatha Christie stories have not been made into movies or tv shows.

The problem there lies in public interest. There is no reason to make a movie that isn't going to profit. A select few people will make their way to see a movie that has so little backing. It costs millions of dollars to make a decent movie. There has to be wide appeal, there has to be an audience. I could name off a hundred books I would love to see on film but I cant say enough people would want to see it for a company to make money on the venture.

All of that aside, all your point did was solidify my stance that nothing is original. Turning books into movies isn't very original... Not to mention all of the people who would do exactly what you do with remakes "The movie wont do the book justice, they should just leave well enough alone."

anglewitch 08-25-2016 09:41 PM

That's it, I going to stay out of these threads about remakes since I am making an utter fool of myself.

Verdammt!

Jake.Ashworth 08-26-2016 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 1017163)
That's it, I going to stay out of these threads about remakes since I am making an utter fool of myself.

Verdammt!

Your absolutely not making a fool of yourself! Its healthy debate, its a good thing. Its how new ideas are created.

I personally think that the reason most remakes fail is because the studio/directors/producers/actors are terrified to make something that isn't going to hit all the key places. They are scared of angering the fans and instead they refine it to such a degree its not fun anymore. The reason the originals where fun is strictly because the people making it didn't give a shit and they made what they wanted. Now everyone is so geared up about scaring off the audience that its impossible to make a good film.

anglewitch 08-26-2016 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 1017175)
Your absolutely not making a fool of yourself! Its healthy debate, its a good thing. Its how new ideas are created.

I personally think that the reason most remakes fail is because the studio/directors/producers/actors are terrified to make something that isn't going to hit all the key places. They are scared of angering the fans and instead they refine it to such a degree its not fun anymore. The reason the originals where fun is strictly because the people making it didn't give a shit and they made what they wanted. Now everyone is so geared up about scaring off the audience that its impossible to make a good film.

In other words, they destroy the fun of horror.

Jake.Ashworth 08-26-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 1017177)
In other words, they destroy the fun of horror.

I think they are forced to destroy the fun of horror because we are too critical as a audience. I watch and enjoy almost every movie out there, because somebody put their life into it. Somebody bled for what they thought would be right. Its why I love low budget movies. The acting is terrible, the lighting is usually bad, but its somebodies passion and it comes through if you look for it.

Im just saying, if we went to movies expecting to like them, no matter the genre or connotation we would see a revival of the classics and maybe even new classics. How badly would you want to make another movie if your first got shit on uncontrollably by the demo you where trying to reach.

FOR EXAMPLE! Lol. Have you seen Underworld (1985)? The first full length film Clive Barker made? Its horrible. But in 1985 you didn't have the internet and trolls to destroy a movie before it had a chance, you had to go and see it. Two year later I think he made Hellraiser. What if Underworld was released today and Hellraiser hadn't come out yet. People would have destroyed it and potentially killed Barkers want to create anything else.

As an audience, we are crushing the creativity of potentially excellent writers and directors before they get an opportunity to create their masterpieces because we are too high and mighty to just enjoy a film for what it is.

Rant... Over....

anglewitch 08-26-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 1017206)
I think they are forced to destroy the fun of horror because we are too critical as a audience. I watch and enjoy almost every movie out there, because somebody put their life into it. Somebody bled for what they thought would be right. Its why I love low budget movies. The acting is terrible, the lighting is usually bad, but its somebodies passion and it comes through if you look for it.

Im just saying, if we went to movies expecting to like them, no matter the genre or connotation we would see a revival of the classics and maybe even new classics. How badly would you want to make another movie if your first got shit on uncontrollably by the demo you where trying to reach.

FOR EXAMPLE! Lol. Have you seen Underworld (1985)? The first full length film Clive Barker made? Its horrible. But in 1985 you didn't have the internet and trolls to destroy a movie before it had a chance, you had to go and see it. Two year later I think he made Hellraiser. What if Underworld was released today and Hellraiser hadn't come out yet. People would have destroyed it and potentially killed Barkers want to create anything else.

As an audience, we are crushing the creativity of potentially excellent writers and directors before they get an opportunity to create their masterpieces because we are too high and mighty to just enjoy a film for what it is.

Rant... Over....

Right on.
Keep on ranting brother Jake. ::big grin::::wink::
Buuuurrrp!

Goathead 09-26-2016 11:17 AM

So there was a new picture of the new Pennywise published.

Thumb resize.

Source: http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3...stephen-kings/

Jake.Ashworth 09-27-2016 04:48 AM

Still happy, waiting impatiently for a trailer... For this and Power Rangers which should have a trailer in the next couple weeks.

Fake Shemp 09-27-2016 07:12 AM

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Goathead 09-28-2016 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 1019326)
Still happy, waiting impatiently for a trailer... For this and Power Rangers which should have a trailer in the next couple weeks.

I guess we'll have to wait for a trailer at least until spring :/

NightOfTheLiving_Sam 03-31-2017 04:37 PM

I've seen the trailer recently. I loved the original and I plan on reading the book again. By the trailer it looks alright. I just hope they don't mess it up. I've always loved IT since I was younger. If it gets bad reviews, I'll more than likely wait until it comes out on DVD or something.

Here's the trailer. What does everyone else think? Think it'll be worth seeing in the theater?


Angra 03-31-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NightOfTheLiving_Sam (Post 1024333)
I've seen the trailer recently. I loved the original and I plan on reading the book again. By the trailer it looks alright. I just hope they don't mess it up. I've always loved IT since I was younger. If it gets bad reviews, I'll more than likely wait until it comes out on DVD or something.

Here's the trailer. What does everyone else think? Think it'll be worth seeing in the theater?


I thought it was a great trailer. The movie can't be worse than the first one, so I really look forward to it. Hope it'll be at least 3 hours long.


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