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This might come as quite a shock for you V, but i say no to movies such as Oldboy.
If Oldboy and Co. gets accepted, I'd like to add Tony Jaa's "The Protector" as it shows the horrors of elephant killings in asia.. and it's damn good. |
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Horror novelists and scholars prefer an inclusive definition of the genre. If that's the way Stephen King, Clive Barker, Kim Newman and others like them think of the genre, I think it's a smart way for fans to approach it. If we only went with movies that were undeniably horror with no crossgenre content, no uniqueness of setting and nothing debatable in tone, we'd end up with...umm....well, there's...
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Seriously, I didn't know people cared so much about Asian Horror. As for Godzilla, I thought the first film was worth a watch and the rest were good for laughs at how bad they were. Especially with the inclusion of Monsterland and Minilla. |
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Oldboy and Lady Vengeance have classic gothic horror themes that make the movie more than just another Asian action flick. Note that I haven't included "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" here. The line that I am drawing is that Oldboy and Lady Vengeance both include intense horror themes that challenge the audience's perception. "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" is more of a pulp action drama. They're not just action - There's more going on that follows classic horror themes. |
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I don't see the horror. Sorry. |
I like this discussion. Just started a thread here about it so as not to clog up this thread anymore.
Now back to the Top Asian Compilation!! |
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i know for a fact that i'm not going to be able to come up with a list with anything on it not already mentioned here (let alone Zwoti's list) |
I sent my list. I didn't include anything that made the original two HDC 100s just to try to get variety in.
For those of you who haven't seen it, I suggested Kakurenbo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYPz50Kh7cI |
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Read the thread from the beginning. It was my "no" which started this debate. |
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not all of them are good, but virtually all of them haven't been mentioned by anyone else (i could have added a bunch of awful thai films. but i'm not that cruel), but you are going to need over 100 films to do a top 100. so initially it has to be quantity over quality, the judges can sort out the quality later. |
That's why I think we should keep the list broad. I don't mean counting Chungking Express or anything, but Horror/Exploitation/Camp is a good standard. They would still be things of interest to horror fans and this site is meant to enlighten horror fans and show them things they like.
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With the Other HDC Top 100, I didn't make any stipulations as to what was sent in, other than it not be a part of the original Top 100. There were several movies there that were not even remotely close to being a horror movie, but I let the judges define what was and was not acceptable. I suggest we do the same here instead of debating it in the thread.
If we must, however, I propose a question in the Oldboy/Ichi debate. Do you consider Full Metal Yakuza viable for the list? I find it to be a middle ground between the two. |
I've seen no mention of Snake of June.
People hate it that much? |
Okay, here's my list (I tried to do them in order of preference as much as possible):
Perfect Blue Ninja Scroll Vampire Hunter D L.I.L.Y. Cat Audition Battle Royale Demon City Shinjuku Wicked City Oldboy (I'm with Chrono here!) Paprika Imprint Legend of the Overfiend Death Note Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust Tetsuo: Iron Man Death Note II: The Last Name I think if you're looking to expand the list, I don't think you should try to include exploitation but to expand to horror series. Since anime series are such a staple in Japan, a lot of exceptional horror are in these series and I think they should definitely be considered. My anime series list: Gantz When They Cry Elfen Lied Berserk Death Note Boogiepop Phantom |
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vital is though :D |
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Title of compilation is changed, as per debate and discussion in the thread. Have added Angra's, Doc's, Flayed's & Papillon's recs to the compilation, alongwith my own list.
Also, I have a small announcement to make. But that will be later, when I get in touch with someone. |
Maybe we should all just watch more asian horror movies and then get back to this thread in about 6 months..
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Its one of my favourite films. That scene is one of the few which has ever made me jump and swear aloud! :eek: :eek: |
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Announcement stands postponed till further notice. Things didnt work out on that front. EDIT - Nevermind. |
Before we rush to judgments on any movies, let's see what everybody has to say via their lists. :)
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Announcement
As of right now, Despare is host and in charge of compiling the Asian Horror/Exploitation Top 100. I am stepping down, and handing over all the lists sent to me so far to him, and would like to request all members and (future) Judges to co-operate with him and support him fully in finalising a worthy 100 as a collective representation for fans of Asian horror both in HDC, and around the world. All those who havent submitted their lists yet, please do so and PM them to Despare directly. He will take over from here onwards. Thanks. |
Will the deadline be remain same for submitting list or there may be any extension?
I tried to pm Des but I guess his pm box is overloaded to accept any new one.:) |
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My box has more room now. |
I have to get this out my system.
I think it's bullshit that we're adding exploitation movies to the horror list just because we haven't watched enough good asian horror movies to fill out a top 100. Instead why not just settle with an asian horror top 50 compilation? Or wait half a year with this list and let some of us asian horror nuts look for more good titles to add. I mean, what's the hurry? We can always make a HDC Asian exploitation top 20/30/40whatever compilation. |
Where's the love for the blaxploitation?
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I've got nothing against explotation movies. I just don't see the genre go that well together with Horror movies on a top list. Of course, some horror movies ARE exploitation, but the ones that aren't will ruin this list for me. |
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Whatever.. This list is not my child anymore. |
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hmmm.....This is going well.
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i thought the name of this forum was Horror Dot Com
yet exploitation is discussed as much as horror if not more at times violent action films martial arts films revenge films i've been on at least 5 major 'Horror' forums and have found that exploitation flicks were very muched discussed on every single one of them because the overlap in theme, atmosphere, and interest. It is undeniably entwined with 'pure horror' around our film sensibilities. and nothing reflects this more than the asian market. realistically .... with 'pure horror' - pure asian horror - even a top 50 would be pushing it ... the last 25 would be mediochre at best. this is to be a list of films we use to recommend to each other - it might as well include all the films that horror fans would appreciate. |
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Kakurenbo looks great Flayed, can't wait to check it out. I hope Smackytherabbit sends some recs... |
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I also think maybe doing a separate exploitation would be a good idea, I could probably come up with more exploitation than horror for asia. Plus this would be better than trying to force them together. Not everyone who is looking at a horror list may want to see a bunch of exploitation there and vice versa. |
Nobody even knows the suggestions yet! We're jumping to conclusions...
Why don't we see which films are suggested and go from there, if we object then we object, but CHILL OUT. |
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