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MVP732 06-03-2004 07:01 AM

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MVP732...

If you haven't taken the time to compare the likes of "Final Draft" and "Story View", I strongly urge you to do so before you spend your money. Neither of these software programs are cheap but they're also not outrageously expensive, especially if you plan on using either one to churn out more than a couple of scripts.

I don't know how old you are, what level of education you've attained or even how long you've been writing (scripts, et al), but I'd venture to say that (from reading your script) you've got a long way to go before you get good at this thing. That's not to say that you don't have a talent (it's obvious that you do) but rather that there are weaknesses in your script involving presentation (structure), grammar, spelling, plot/premise, and even dialogue. Overall, production value isn't necessarily an issue since you're not selling the script. Fortunately, you've got the balls to display your unfinished work on the web for the whole world to see, and there's not a lot of people reading this (or your script) who can claim the same. Please read on, I'm on your side...
I downloaded Storyview for free, and my age is 15.

Father Fitz 06-03-2004 07:35 AM

How are you making out with Storyview? I assume you're using the demo version...Is it limited in function?

In case you're interested, I just found these on eBay this morning:

Final Draft 7.0

and much cheaper...

Storyview 2.0

death_to_all 06-03-2004 02:24 PM

There is something called natural talent. I'm getting published for the first time real soon and I started to write when I was thirteen some have talent while others wish they do. I'm open to plenty of critism that is the only way that a writer can carry on with critism to know just what their audience wants.

cheebacheeba 06-03-2004 08:30 PM

Ok, here's some for you...
Your punctuation and sentence structure could definitely use some improvement.
You also spelt criticism incorrectly.






- B

death_to_all 06-03-2004 08:38 PM

I can spell perfectly, but I was in a massive hurry so that's why I spelt it wrong and there is nothing wrong with my sentence structure then again I'm open to critcism just like everyone else.

MVP732 06-04-2004 04:30 AM

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How are you making out with Storyview? I assume you're using the demo version...Is it limited in function?
Yeah i did get the demo version off of download.com and the only thing thats limited to the actual software is that you can only export 1 document, and then the trial is over.

Steelsymth 06-09-2004 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by death_to_all
Seeing as one movie is about someone who goes around killing baysitter's and other people on Halloween and is possessed and wants to kill all those of his next of kin, while the other Pinhead rules a realm known only as Hell and is the leader of the Cenobites. Pinhead is completely different from Michael Myers seeing as he has the cube that unlocks a world to pain and pleasure that can only mean death and turmoil.
Pinhead is someone who knows just where to hit a person, mortal when they're down and most vulnerable and that's what's so great about him.

Pinhead reminds me of my wife :D both her and Pinhead could kill Michael

Sam The Egg 06-09-2004 09:32 PM

:rolleyes: Ooooh, you wrote a script for it. Hey, do I still die in your little movie?



And if this is a fan-script why is it in the upcoming movie folder?

MVP732 06-10-2004 04:44 AM

eh

death_to_all 06-10-2004 03:22 PM

Guess what

MVP732 06-11-2004 06:21 AM

WHAT?!

death_to_all 06-14-2004 07:35 PM

Well let me see I'm not one to boast but then again this is too good to be true. I can help you if you want because I've just finished the first Act of my Michael Vs Pinhead and gave it to my agent and I might just be going to Hollywood. I sound mean I'm sorry, but if you want we can share ideas!

Paul M. Johnson 06-14-2004 07:38 PM

Whatever the outcome, can we please have a decisive winner. Nothing like the jason vs. freddy ordeal, please?

death_to_all 06-14-2004 07:41 PM

I thought that there was a decisive winner in that movie and it was Jason. Well in this one there will be but I don't like to give anything away unless I have to. I'm not even allowed because my agent thinks that my ideas might get stolen so I have to copyright it first. But I will tell you guys one thing and that is that all Hell will break loose! Enough of a hint for you.

KRUGERKID13 06-15-2004 12:16 AM

no more versus one was good enough to make another would be fucking crazy. It would be like all those scream copycats and it would eventually make a joke out of FVJ

thEsounDofdirT 06-15-2004 07:32 PM

first of all... pinhead and michael both kill because of ties to certain families.. michael... his own family... pinhead or... "the box" is tied to a family if you've seen Bloodlines...

the only thing that breaks this rule is halloween 8...

another thing... you would have to have michael open the box

also... pinhead would probably go on talking about so many crazy things... and michael would not stand there listening to it

MVP732 06-16-2004 11:45 AM

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<QUOTE>Well let me see I'm not one to boast but then again this is too good to be true. I can help you if you want because I've just finished the first Act of my Michael Vs Pinhead and gave it to my agent and I might just be going to Hollywood. I sound mean I'm sorry, but if you want we can share ideas!</QUOTE>
I have a couple things to say about that. Firstly, can you maybe include some of my ideas into your script. And what is your script about? Oh and how old are you? Roughly

kpropain 06-16-2004 03:16 PM

How about Scooby Doo Vs Garfield:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

death_to_all 06-16-2004 06:51 PM

Well MVP I'm about 16 and a half roughly and like I said I can help you. I don't like to brag or anything like that but there are some critics out there that would never take your script. Basically I'll tell you all I can about my script and nothing more because I have rights and also my agent doesn't like me to reveal anything I've written until it's published and so forth. Well it's the year 1990 Michael has just returned to Haddenfield where he takes a sudden turn from past events that have long ago happened. He isn't free of what plagues him and still feels that he must kill but there is something that is amiss with Michael. The audience will not know what it is until later on. He stumbles upon his family's crypt and trashes it through his hate. This awakens Pinhead and the other Cenobites and I can't tell you anymore. I haven't written much yet but if you want I'm open to your ideas and so forth. I haven't brainstormed enough to figure out the entire plot yet but I know the basis of it. That's all I can say at the moment. It may sound a little far-fetched and everything else but everything reveals itself as the plot unravels.

thEsounDofdirT 06-16-2004 07:29 PM

i still really don't see why michael myers would open the box... furthermore.. like i said.. the box is connected to a BLOODLINE.. .hence the 4th movie.. it explains all of that... so we're gonna find out that michael myers is in that bloodline?... arg...

i really just don't know about this

Freddy Krueger. 06-17-2004 12:46 AM

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Pinhead would have no shot.
Exactly. I hate them both but I hate pinhead more. And I'm not saying that Pinhead would lose because I hate him so much, but ebcause it's true.

Freddy Krueger. 06-17-2004 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by kpropain
How about Scooby Doo Vs Garfield:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Shhh! Don't give them any ideas.

thEsounDofdirT 06-17-2004 08:14 AM

freddy do you hate all characters but kreuger and lecter?

Threl kaar 06-17-2004 11:52 AM

I heard the John Carpender and Clive Barker were going to make a Helloween but the fans begged him not too...

thEsounDofdirT 06-17-2004 11:57 AM

if clive barker and john carpenter got together and did this.. then ok... there might be something clever to tie them together... but i still think this would be a real push... i mean as you can see... pinhead didn't stand a chance against the doctor in hellraiser two... i think michael would tear HIS soul apart.. seeing as how michael was born pure evil... pinhead was born human and humane and at times shows a conscience

death_to_all 06-17-2004 04:24 PM

Trust me it's going to be one hell of a good movie. There isn't going to be anything crap about it. Michael will not open the box there will be a twist and a new way to summon Pinhead and the Cenobites. That's all I can say at the moment.

thEsounDofdirT 06-17-2004 04:36 PM

dude.. you can't just change the way to summon pinhead........

especially since bloodlines was done so far into the future.. it basically already wrote the guideline for all other movies

death_to_all 06-17-2004 04:42 PM

It will all fit nicely into place. Trust me I'm not changing anything not really anyway. It's going to be different I admit but it will make sense.

thEsounDofdirT 06-17-2004 04:47 PM

not changing anything really?!?!?!?!

you're taking away the center of the hellraiser series

death_to_all 06-17-2004 05:15 PM

No I'm not. You not understanding what I'm trying to say. It's like the movies but I'm only going to change a minor detail. It will still be the same and like I said before it will make sense. I was thinking of Michael opening the box but really why would he want to? So I'm trying hard to follow the storylines but to make it more realistic I'm changing how Pinhead is raised. It has something to do with the box but it will make it more inventive and realistic.

MVP732 06-17-2004 05:32 PM

how about someone else summons pinhead in Haddonfield and says that they will trade their life for another's. Pinhead hears about Michael and wants his soul instead of the person's and thats how they will fight. Or just like in Bloodline when the robot summoned Pinhead. You can have someone solve the box then simply leave the room he was summoned in and lock it. Or sumthin like that. Or... you can have someone trick Michael into getting trapped in Smith's Grove, and locks the doors, which inside Pinhead has already been summoned, then... Pinhead fgeels Michael's prescnce and lures him to him, and they strt slashing and whipping chains at each other. Sounds like a good movie to me.

death_to_all 06-17-2004 05:36 PM

That's a really good idea. I was thinking of doing something like that it sounds heaps better than what I was first going to do. Isn't that what happened in the first or second one. The second I think when the girl solved the box and the doctor wanted to go and Pinhead knew. Well I'll have to think about it but I think that it's a better idea than my own and I did say that I was open to any ideas from you MVP. I think that it might just work.

thEsounDofdirT 06-17-2004 06:04 PM

yea see that would work out much better.. taking the box out would be a huge mistake... but you know.. michael myers doesn't have a soul... he cannot die... he is just pure evil...

MVP732 06-17-2004 06:07 PM

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michael myers doesn't have a soul... he cannot die... he is just pure evil...
well pinhead doesnt know that but he will find out what michael really is...;)

thEsounDofdirT 06-17-2004 06:17 PM

so basically.. pinhead is just being lured out to be murdered.. i seeeeeee..

MVP732 06-17-2004 06:20 PM

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so basically.. pinhead is just being lured out to be murdered.. i seeeeeee..
Well yeah, that and for Michael to go to Hell and leave Haddonfield for good

death_to_all 06-17-2004 06:42 PM

Wait I have a really good idea based on what MVP said before, what should happen is that Michael should be waiting in some person's house for them to get home and when they do they are solving the box. Just as it is solved Michael jumps out of his hiding place and starts killing the person. Pinhead and the Cenobites show up and Pinhead is really pissed off and he decides to get revenge on Michael for invading his turf. Just like in Freddy Vs Jason but different.

MVP732 06-17-2004 07:00 PM

yeah that would work 2, but i think it whoever solves the box, wheter teens or whoever, should solve the box in smith's grove. Maybe they will go in andf trash the place as a Halloween prank, and some crazy has trhe box, they play around with it, Pinhead kills some of them, security comes in and calls the cops, and the insane asylum is shut down, news reporters are everywhere, Michael overhears this incident on the news,then Michael gets pissed off when he finds out there is another killer in Haddonfield and goes to the asylum to fight Pinhead.

death_to_all 06-17-2004 07:03 PM

Yeah that sounds good too. Both of our ideas are good maybe they can be combined.

MVP732 06-17-2004 07:10 PM

i think the idea of having new chracters in the movie and not reusing old ones would be better so those who haven't seen any hellraiser or halloween movies would get the movie too. Sort of like freddy vs. jason and how they just used some teens.


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