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illdojo 07-22-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hammerfan (Post 716000)
The movies that are made now are way more intense than the movies when I was in grade school - heck, even high school for that matter.

That's a good thing - IMO. :cool:

stubbornforgey 07-22-2008 11:43 AM

Well worth dragging thine ass out of bed n going to see.

stubbornforgey 07-22-2008 11:46 AM

damn I am sure I posted a comment in this.

Assssssssssssss I was saying or as I said..
Well worth dragging thine ass out of bed for.

But.I must also add, not really a movie I would see twice

ferretchucker 07-22-2008 12:27 PM

Forgey...Look up.

stubbornforgey 07-22-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 716033)
Forgey...Look up.

ewwwwwwwwwwww I can see whats under your boxers!!!

ohhhhhhhhh you mean the posting .. soz :o

Yeah , must have been a laggy time between me posting and it reaching the
thread.

Roderick Usher 07-22-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hammerfan (Post 716000)
I remember full well how thrilling it was to watch a horror movie when I was a child. The movies that are made now are way more intense than the movies when I was in grade school - heck, even high school for that matter.

I grew up on
The Exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills Have Eyes, Escape From New York and The Road Warrior.

and so have my children

I'd say every one of those was more intense then The Dark Knight.

illdojo 07-22-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 716062)
I grew up on
The Exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills Have Eyes, Escape From New York and The Road Warrior.

and so have my children

I'd say every one of those was more intense then The Dark Knight.

Amen...Rev. Sean :D

ferretchucker 07-22-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey (Post 716058)
ewwwwwwwwwwww I can see whats under your boxers!!!

You flirt!!! :p

neverending 07-22-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 716062)
I grew up on
The Exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills Have Eyes, Escape From New York and The Road Warrior.

and so have my children

I'd say every one of those was more intense then The Dark Knight.

Yah, but you're a generation younger than hammerfan & me.

Dante'sInferno 07-22-2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 716070)
Yah, but you're a generation younger than hammerfan & me.

Heh I was raised on To Kill A mockingbird(watching it again right now for the first time in a long time),The 3 Stooges(I LOVE that show),Terminator and Robocop.I think I did alright.Some things from different eras.I'm catching up now,I think.I mean on all the classics.I've yet to watch a silent movie though.I want to.

missmacabre 07-22-2008 03:32 PM

just saw dark night. well all buut 3 minutes of it. my two cents later.

alkytrio666 07-22-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 716071)
Heh I was raised on To Kill A mockingbird(watching it again right now for the first time in a long time),The 3 Stooges(I LOVE that show),Terminator and Robocop.I think I did alright.Some things from different eras.I'm catching up now,I think.I mean on all the classics.I've yet to watch a silent movie though.I want to.

A heavenly voice calls out,

"Nosferatu, my son, Nosferatu!"

Dante'sInferno 07-22-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 716073)
A heavenly voice calls out,

"Nosferatu, my son, Nosferatu!"

I definitly need to see that!You said the new DVD release had an amazing transfer.I can't wait to watch Nosferatu.It's going to be my first silent film.:D



EDIT:I just shat my pants!I FOUND it. I'm going to watch it now.Hehehehehe

massacre man 07-22-2008 03:57 PM

I saw my first (and only) porno in first or second grade.

ferretchucker 07-22-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 716070)
Yah, but you're a generation younger than hammerfan & me.

Really? I dunno why but I always pictured you as more around Dude's age.

neverending 07-22-2008 04:20 PM

You haven't been paying attention.

missmacabre 07-22-2008 05:45 PM

ok, so, I am fully aware that some people are going to want to kill or disown me for saying this but...









I didn't LOVE Dark Knight.

I was expecting so much more, and I'm not even sure what exactly I didn't enjoy. I went to see the movie with someone who had already seen it twice and he did a good job of not letting his body language ruin anything for me. So no spoilers. The action was well done, the story was cool, acting was above par for action packed movies. The Joker was sooo well acted, and genuinely scared me in a few parts.
(*SPOILERS* When Rachel and Harvey were captured and Joker was blowing up the police station.) I was terrified. I have a bit open lip to prove it.



I think what I disliked the most, was how the whole movie was so well done, well acted, costumes and makeup were great..... Then Dent turns his ugly scarred face when he was in the hospital and I laughed. He looked rediculous and unrealistic. Like Alky said, why go to all the trouble of making things dark and realistic and pull out effects like that? Really threw me off.

On top of that, the power went out due to a thunder storm and we missed about 3 minutes just between (*SPOLIERS*when Batman was dangling the Joker off the edge of the building and part way through Commisioner Gordon's family getting kidnapped/saved) Fill me in if I missed anything important. but ya. Pivotal scene, atmosphere ruined.

All in all, a solid movie but not a great movie IMO

massacre man 07-22-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by missmacabre (Post 716096)
ok, so, I am fully aware that some people are going to want to kill or disown me for saying this but...









I didn't LOVE Dark Knight.

I was expecting so much more, and I'm not even sure what exactly I didn't enjoy. I went to see the movie with someone who had already seen it twice and he did a good job of not letting his body language ruin anything for me. So no spoilers. The action was well done, the story was cool, acting was above par for action packed movies. The Joker was sooo well acted, and genuinely scared me in a few parts.
(*SPOILERS* When Rachel and Harvey were captured and Joker was blowing up the police station.) I was terrified. I have a bit open lip to prove it.



I think what I disliked the most, was how the whole movie was so well done, well acted, costumes and makeup were great..... Then Dent turns his ugly scarred face when he was in the hospital and I laughed. He looked rediculous and unrealistic. Like Alky said, why go to all the trouble of making things dark and realistic and pull out effects like that? Really threw me off.

On top of that, the power went out due to a thunder storm and we missed about 3 minutes just between (*SPOLIERS*when Batman was dangling the Joker off the edge of the building and part way through Commisioner Gordon's family getting kidnapped/saved) Fill me in if I missed anything important. but ya. Pivotal scene, atmosphere ruined.

All in all, a solid movie but not a great movie IMO

If you weren't a girl I'd punch you.

Kidding. I'm kidding.

Despare 07-22-2008 06:27 PM

I'm really surprised the deeper layers of the film haven't been discussed here yet, although I suppose it's because of how new the film is. I would have expected more exploration of the moral and political issues wrapped up in Dark Knight.

missmacabre 07-22-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 716108)
I'm really surprised the deeper layers of the film haven't been discussed here yet, although I suppose it's because of how new the film is. I would have expected more exploration of the moral and political issues wrapped up in Dark Knight.

Having just read BS8 I still had the ideas of Where do you cross the line when it comes to doing something wrong for the sake of what is right fresh in my head. Is it okay to rob a bank and use the money to save the world from demons and vampires? Not really. So what makes vigilante "super heroes" so great? They're doing major wrong to make things right (and that's right by their own definition) Yet in the end we still love them.

The Mothman 07-22-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 716108)
I'm really surprised the deeper layers of the film haven't been discussed here yet, although I suppose it's because of how new the film is. I would have expected more exploration of the moral and political issues wrapped up in Dark Knight.

that was one of the first things i took note of while watching the movie. It's an extremely deep film. The movie was based around moral decisions, what a chracter is forced to decide when things get drastic.

**SPOILERS**
for example, Two Face avoided these decisions for some time by flipping a coin. Before his wife had died, he only had one outcome from his coinflip, the good one. but after his face was burnt, one side of the coin was burned....which also symbolizes what happened to his physical appearance. To make things even deeper, he went against his newly formed morals towards the end of the film, and shot batman when the coin told his otherwise. Deep shit.

Despare 07-22-2008 07:30 PM

SPOILERS

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 716115)
that was one of the first things i took note of while watching the movie. It's an extremely deep film. The movie was based around moral decisions, what a chracter is forced to decide when things get drastic.

**SPOILERS**
for example, Two Face avoided these decisions for some time by flipping a coin. Before his wife had died, he only had one outcome from his coinflip, the good one. but after his face was burnt, one side of the coin was burned....which also symbolizes what happened to his physical appearance. To make things even deeper, he went against his newly formed morals towards the end of the film, and shot batman when the coin told his otherwise. Deep shit.

Yeah, there were things that allowed you to question your morals and think about what you would do when confronted with a certain situation but there were larger moral issues raised that encompassed our entire society. A lot of people I've talked to didn't like the whole sonar/cell phone thing but I thought it really balanced the film and not only helped increase the image of Batman as a technological genius and brilliant detective (something he seemed to be missing in The Dark Knight) but brought up a politically topical subject. Great stuff...

jenna26 07-22-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 715854)
Welcome back, jen-jen. :)

Wont be disappointed? rofl...it will sweep you off your feet. :cool:

Thanks V....:) And it had damn well better...I am going out there in the world where other people, less respectful people are, waiting with their cell phones and annoying habits to....annoy me....so I better be mesmerized.....;) :p

missmacabre 07-22-2008 08:12 PM

Speaking of moral situations. (*SPOILERS*what do you think about the ferrie situation? Would you blow the convicts sky high in order to save a boat full of inocent people? Would the guilt be too much, or would you just wait it out and put your life in the hands of a bunch of criminals, and a vigilante 'super hero'?)

Despare 07-22-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by missmacabre (Post 716133)
Speaking of moral situations. (*SPOILERS*what do you think about the ferrie situation? Would you blow the convicts sky high in order to save a boat full of inocent people? Would the guilt be too much, or would you just wait it out and put your life in the hands of a bunch of criminals, and a vigilante 'super hero'?)

More Spoilers!













To be completely honest... I'd swim for it. I wouldn't even try to make that decision or sacrifice.

Posher778 07-22-2008 08:26 PM

Spoilers....


Not to mention the charges were obviously wired to their own boat. Totally Joker's style, and perfectly ironic.

The Mothman 07-22-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 716137)
More Spoilers!













To be completely honest... I'd swim for it. I wouldn't even try to make that decision or sacrifice.

**SPOILERS**
they coulda got away with it too. as long as they jumped out of the boat opposite the shore.

The Mothman 07-22-2008 08:37 PM

btw, is it just me or did Gary Oldman resemble Ned Flanders with the mustache?

missmacabre 07-22-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 716140)
Spoilers....


Not to mention the charges were obviously wired to their own boat. Totally Joker's style, and perfectly ironic.

I thought that too, but that wasn't a part of the question.

I, personally, would not have hit the button either way.

urgeok2 07-22-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Grady (Post 715924)
Is it too intense for a 7 year old boy? I want to go, but my kid will flip if I don't bring him...consensus here?

it was fine for my 7 year old ... but it depends on the kid .. they're all different.

Mine can handle a darker Batman ... but he sure as fuck couldnt handle the films R. Usher has shown his kids.

Fantasy violence is one thing ... but i know my kid isnt emotionally equiped at this point to handle rape and torture violence - especially how they are presented in a lot of horror movies. (slow, lingering and exploitive)

also - i would always worry if there was anything going on on a subconcious lever ... not visible now but something that could have a time bomb effect later in life. I'm not willing to gamble on certain things.

that being said - kids are a lot more informed - and jaded these days..

my kid had no problem with 2 face's makeup effects.

40 years ago it would have scared the shit out of me and given me night terrors. back then we didnt have special features on DVDs that showed how makeup and FX were done)

but The Dark Knight ... i'd day that there are a couple of things that might bother a more sensitive kid ... but not too much.

there is a bit with a pencil that is pretty nasty when you think about it - but its done very quickly - and non graphically.

urgeok2 07-22-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 716142)
btw, is it just me or did Gary Oldman resemble Ned Flanders with the mustache?


actually - he really does

Despare 07-22-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 716149)
there is a bit with a pencil that is pretty nasty when you think about it - but its done very quickly - and non graphically.

They seemed to cut away at a few intense moments and it really didn't hurt the film at all. Especially one particular "why so serious" moment.





As far as the Flanders thing, I never thought about it but he indeedily does!

massacre man 07-22-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 716153)
As far as the Flanders thing, I never thought about it but he indeedily does!

No he doesn't. Flanders is yellow.

Despare 07-22-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by massacre man (Post 716157)
No he doesn't. Flanders is yellow.

Flanders isn't Asian... wth are you talking about?

_____V_____ 07-22-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 716142)
btw, is it just me or did Gary Oldman resemble Ned Flanders with the mustache?

Bingo. I knew I saw that look somewhere else...

massacre man 07-22-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 716158)
Flanders isn't Asian... wth are you talking about?

I said yellow. Not yellow-brown.

_____V_____ 07-22-2008 09:36 PM

And I have a poser for all who have already seen TDK...


(***POSSIBLE GIGANTIC SPOILERS AHEAD***)


Whats the deal on Harvey Dent? I mean the way he landed, body all twisted up and limbs thrown, neck twisted...for all accounts dead, as they showed...followed by the funeral/memorial.

So is he really dead? Or is Two-Face a possibility for Batman 3?

Dante'sInferno 07-22-2008 09:56 PM

HUGE SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!





I think Harvey is dead.That's why they had the memorial and they didn't want the others to know what had become of him.I think that Two-face is alive though.Sure he was in alot of pain when he fell,but he could have survived out of sheer anger.He was very angry.I don't think he's dead.I think Nolan just wanted us to speculate,untill the 3rd movie is announced and goes in production.I wish Heath hadn't died though.:(
The Joker was bad-ass.Now he probably won't ever be acted the same.



END SPOILER..

_____V_____ 07-22-2008 10:11 PM

Just read through this :


http://movies.ign.com/articles/892/892656p1.html


Jim at IGN raises several interesting noteworthy points.

Vodstok 07-23-2008 07:15 AM

This movie shows what an incredible tragedy heath ledger dying was. There were parts where he made me feel physically threatened.

He was brilliantly and convincingly psychotic. Everything blended together beautifully. the "Everybody is basically good" scene with the ferries was great, and not ham fisted and annoying like the "you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us" scene from spiderman.

All that aside, i loved the pencil trick. I also loved "I'm the guy who kills the bus driver."

"The bus driver?" *CRASH*


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