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ferretchucker 09-26-2007 07:24 AM

Wikipedia says

Skinheads, named for their close-cropped or shaven heads, are a working-class subculture that originated in the United Kingdom in the late 1960s, and then spread to other parts of the world. The first skinheads were greatly influenced by West Indian rude boys and British mods, in terms of fashion, music and lifestyle.[1][2] Originally, the skinhead subculture was primarily based on those elements, not politics or race.[3] Since then, however, attitudes toward race and politics have become factors in where skinheads align themselves. The political spectrum within the skinhead scene ranges from the far right to the far left, although many skinheads remain apolitical. Fashion-wise, skinheads range from a clean-cut 1960s mod-influenced style to less-strict punk- and hardcore-influenced styles.

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 07:26 AM

it also says

In the late 1960s, some skinheads (including black skinheads) had engaged in violence against random Pakistanis and other South Asian immigrants (an act known as Paki bashing in common slang).[23][24][25] Although these early skinheads were not part of an organized racist movement, by the early 1970s there were skinheads who aligned themselves with the white nationalist National Front.[citation needed] However, there had also been anti-racist and leftist skinheads from the beginning, especially in areas such as Scotland and northern England.[26] [27] As the 1970s progressed, the racially-motivated skinhead violence in the UK became more partisan, and groups such as the National Front and the British Movement, saw a rise in skinheads among their ranks. Although many skinheads rejected political labels being applied to their subculture, some working class skinheads blamed non-white immigrants for economic and social problems, and agreed with far right organizations' positions against blacks and Asians.

By the late 1970s, some openly neo-Nazi groups were largely composed of skinheads, and by this point, the mass media, and subsequently the general public, had largely come to view skinheads exclusively as a subculture promoting white power.[citation needed] However, during the late 1970s and early 1980s, many skinheads, suedeheads, ex-skinheads and football casuals in the UK rejected the dogma of both the left and right. This anti-extremist attitude was musically typified by Oi! bands such as Cockney Rejects, The 4-Skins and The Business











They are like this but not so much anymore. Now they're just slightly violent men who hang around pubs. You should watch the film "This is England" It's quite good.

missmacabre 09-26-2007 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 631711)
iThey are like this but not so much anymore. Now they're just slightly violent men who hang around pubs. You should watch the film "This is England" It's quite good.

I learned about 80's subcultures from the movie "SLC Punk" which I recommend that everyone watch. There's some stuff about skinheads in there too.

Disease 09-26-2007 10:39 AM

Skinhead is just another word for F#$%head!

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 10:52 AM

Skin heads aren't as bad as they were.

Disease 09-26-2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 631831)
Skin heads aren't as bad as they were.

and how many have you known???

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 631831)
Skin heads aren't as bad as they were.


Perhaps where you're from, but as far as I know, they're still unpleasant fuckers over here.

Rayne 09-26-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AUSTIN316426808 (Post 631845)
Perhaps where you're from, but as far as I know, they're still unpleasant fuckers over here.

When are YOU gonna post a picture, Mister?...ANY picture?

We don't have any skinheads around here...But, from what I've heard about them...It would seem that they're just racist people, who have never accomplished anything, and therefore have nothing to be 'proud of' except being born a certain color, which of course they had absolutely nothing to do with...It's pretty pathetic, and kinda sad if ya think about it


Besides that...There's no such thing as a PURE race...People screwed around everywhere they went...We're ALL mutts...

So, on top of everything else, they're also delusional if they've fooled themselves into believing that there's only ONE specific race in their family tree...Unless they're all inbred, of course (and even then, they can't really know about their entire ancestry from BEFORE the time when they started thinking their sisters were hot)

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 11:16 AM

yes alot of them are assholes that like to start shit. BUT bigger assholes still are the bros. now if your not from southern california you probably never heard of them so allow me to explain. bros are a bunch of rich kids that drive around in raised trucks and wear famous stars and straps gear, claim they hate black people but completly rip off black culture. consider themselvs players but all they nail is sluts that anyone (literaly) could fuck. and the big differnce between them and skins is this, skins start shit cause they like to fight and will fight you under damn near any circumstances. however bros start shit so they can look like badasses, and if there is any chance of a fair fight they dont want none yeah theyll hop in their truck and get like 10 of their friends and come back to fight one 1 guy. people like this is why there is school shootings.

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 11:21 AM

But isn't the way everyone is talking about skinheads a bit like them. Some of them generalise all "pakis" as bad people, but everyone seems to generalise them as bad people. Like what you said Rayne, but in a more philosophical manner, no race is pure. Not all skinheads are pure skinheads because they don't all think that way.

Rayne 09-26-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 631858)
But isn't the way everyone is talking about skinheads a bit like them. Some of them generalise all "pakis" as bad people, but everyone seems to generalise them as bad people. Like what you said Rayne, but in a more philosophical manner, no race is pure. Not all skinheads are pure skinheads because they don't all think that way.

I was only stating what I've heard about them, as I don't know (have never seen) any personally...And as far as racists go, I never said that they were 'good' or 'bad', just really, REALLY stupid, ignorant, misguided, and very, very pathetic...

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 631858)
But isn't the way everyone is talking about skinheads a bit like them. Some of them generalise all "pakis" as bad people, but everyone seems to generalise them as bad people. Like what you said Rayne, but in a more philosophical manner, no race is pure. Not all skinheads are pure skinheads because they don't all think that way.


Agreed, not all of 'em have swastikas hanging in their room or inked on their arm, I'm not generalizing I'm referring to the assholes of the bunch which are the only ones I've ever encountered.

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631852)
When are YOU gonna post a picture, Mister?...ANY picture?


Anybody that's been here long enough should know the answer to that already.

Rayne 09-26-2007 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AUSTIN316426808 (Post 631870)
Anybody that's been here long enough should know the answer to that already.

I was hoping you'd change your mind :(

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 11:39 AM

lets see your pics rayne

Disease 09-26-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 631858)
But isn't the way everyone is talking about skinheads a bit like them. Some of them generalise all "pakis" as bad people, but everyone seems to generalise them as bad people. Like what you said Rayne, but in a more philosophical manner, no race is pure. Not all skinheads are pure skinheads because they don't all think that way.


No it's not.... and yes all skinheads do think the same, otherwise they are just someone with a bad haircut, not a skin head.

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by the_man_you_fear (Post 631872)
lets see your pics rayne


I think she posted all she could of her younger pictures. You know, the little girl with the severed deer leg.

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 11:42 AM

oh my bad I forgot

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Disease (Post 631873)
No it's not.... and yes all skinheads do think the same, otherwise they are just someone with a bad haircut, not a skin head.

Good point.

Rayne 09-26-2007 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AUSTIN316426808 (Post 631875)
I think she posted all she could of her younger pictures. You know, the little girl with the severed deer leg.

Yeah, I seriously wish that I COULD get ahold of a highschool yearbook...You guys would laugh SO hard...It was the 80's...Pretty funny...haha

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631878)
Yeah, I seriously wish that I COULD get ahold of a highschool yearbook...You guys would laugh SO hard...It was the 80's...Pretty funny...haha

let me guess, you were a big flock of seguls fan ;)

bleeding_angelgirl 09-26-2007 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by missmacabre (Post 631816)
I learned about 80's subcultures from the movie "SLC Punk" which I recommend that everyone watch. There's some stuff about skinheads in there too.


I loved that movie "SLC Punk" it was one of the most realistic punk movies i ever saw.

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bleeding_angelgirl (Post 631880)
I loved that movie "SLC Punk" it was one of the most realistic punk movies i ever saw.

suburbia was better and more acurate twords the sub culture

missmacabre 09-26-2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bleeding_angelgirl (Post 631880)
I loved that movie "SLC Punk" it was one of the most realistic punk movies i ever saw.

Lotsa fun stuff, including a trippy acid scene...
and Matthew Lillard is a cutie.

Rayne 09-26-2007 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by the_man_you_fear (Post 631879)
let me guess, you were a big flock of seguls fan ;)

Actually...Iron Maiden...Queen...Led Zepplin...Judas Priest...Motley Crue...The Who...Black Sabbath...AC/DC...Eagles...Joan Jett...Pat Benatar...Journey...STYX...Stevie Nicks...Bonnie Tyler...Def Leppard and Quiet Riot :D...There are LOTS more, but those were the big ones



OH...And...



Air Supply, REO Speedwagon and Prince:o

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631887)
Stevie Nicks...Bonnie Tyler...Def Leppard and Quiet Riot :D...There are LOTS more, but those were the big ones



OH...And...



Air Supply, REO Speedwagon and Prince:o

well admiting it is the first step

Rayne 09-26-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the_man_you_fear (Post 631888)
well admiting it is the first step

HaHa

OMG!...I can't believe that I forgot to add AC/DC...That was a REALLY big one!

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631890)
HaHa

OMG!...I can't believe that I forgot to add AC/DC...That was a REALLY big one!

yeah ac/dc kicks ass

"shoot to thrill,
payed to kill,
to women and too many pills,
shoot to thrill,
way to kill,
I got my nine and Im ready gonna fire at will"

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 12:06 PM

In my opinion, skinheads are similar to chavs. You can dress and speak like a chav, but not have the same attitude as a full on chav, but still be a chav. Same with skinheads. There are different levels.

Rayne 09-26-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the_man_you_fear (Post 631895)
yeah ac/dc kicks ass

Shook Me All Night Long was like MINE...Ya know?


OH...And I love The Eagles, too...Wow, it's all coming back to me

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631887)
OH...And...



Air Supply, REO Speedwagon and Prince:o



Nothing wrong with Speedwagon and Prince imo.

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 12:09 PM

Nothing beats the buggles - Video killed the radio star. Great song. As is The foundations - build me up buttercup. But most of all, Mr. Sandman by the chordettes. I have all of these on my MP4 played. Seriously.

the_man_you_fear 09-26-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631899)
Shook Me All Night Long was like MINE...Ya know?


OH...And I love The Eagles, too...Wow, it's all coming back to me

yeah I cant slam on the eagels theyre awsome I like "life in the fast lane" its a real good song. "hotel california" is waaaaaaaay played out.

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 631896)
In my opinion, skinheads are similar to chavs. You can dress and speak like a chav, but not have the same attitude as a full on chav, but still be a chav. Same with skinheads. There are different levels.


When it comes to stuff like that, you either are or you aren't. Just my opinion.

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 12:19 PM

let's se some more pictures!

illdojo 09-26-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631878)
Yeah, I seriously wish that I COULD get ahold of a highschool yearbook...You guys would laugh SO hard...It was the 80's...Pretty funny...haha

Right behind you, girl(in age). I graduated in 93'. I always been a Punk Rawk/Sk8er type. Not much has changed. :cool: When I now look back at the 80's. They weren't so bad. Considering the world we live in today. :rolleyes:

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 12:24 PM

You young'ns My parents went to school in the 70's. They sounded like fun.

AUSTIN316426808 09-26-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayne (Post 631871)
I was hoping you'd change your mind :(


Besides football I really just hated ''the best years of my life''. Which is why I have no pictures to post.

ferretchucker 09-26-2007 12:36 PM

It might be fun. You're happy now.


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