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But...These others...They're dangerous...BIG difference...Kids need to be aware of this shit...It's obvious that their parents aren't protecting them, so they need to learn how to protect themselves |
That was one of my original questions, and I think I saw somewhere that when someone is banned, their posts are deleted.
Is this another change since the upgrades, because there are plenty of posts remaining from other banned members? I guess since the revelations, you would have a hard time defending those concerned at all really - including the deleting of their posts. Personally I would have left them, since they aren't a threat to anybody and make certain threads a little out of context where the villains are quoted or replied to - and the 'Banned' heading under the names would be justice shown to be done. |
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god, can you imagine being a new member and reading this thread in its entirety shortly after leaving the new member lounge. as the subject seems to be fairly exhausted maybe a thread removal could be the next step in damage limitation. having this thread is the next most damaging thing to inviting those guys back. time to draw a line under it methinks
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Do we leave it to remind kids of the dangers on the internet, urge them to contact someone if they are approached in this way and to let any potential new predators know that they aren't welcome here? Or...Do we remove it to avoid embarassment, and try to 'make it go away'? This isn't the ONLY forum where things like this happen |
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Looks like it's gonna go |
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Okay, if this is one of our guys (and I admit, it most likely is), they should know that there's a right way to do something and a wrong way Animosity for this sort of thing is understandable but we should be able to deal with it with a modicum of maturity and decorum We shouldn't cause problems for another forum just because they're now saddled with this...They are going to have enough on their hands dealing with this as it is I obviously can't (won't) ask someone to behave a certain way outside of our forum, but I do ask that you consider the shoe on the other foot...We wouldn't appreciate it if someone did this over here Again...I understand where it's coming from (I REALLY do) but the proper way to handle this is to inform their administration, and even individual members in private, if you feel that they may be at risk... But, the best thing to do is just to leave it alone, and let them handle it Come on, Guys...Even though the rest of the 'net community may disagree, we really are better than this |
here ya go Mona
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It's been going on for quite a while |
I thought I had become the most jaded person in the world, rarely surprised by anything anyone did. All of this omcdave stuff, however, has knocked me for a loop. He was one of the few members I "thought" I'd made a connection with. He sent me a few PMs that were odd, but nothing risque or inappropriate. (By odd I mean that they were a little too needy, like he was trying to make friends.) I replied to them and tried to be nice. Now I feel kind of weird; I can't really explain it. Needless to say, I didn't have it anywhere near as bad as some. I'm glad that the situation was taken care of. Hats off to the mods.
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Thanks Newb and Rayne for filling me in. |
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yeah..he pmed me a few times but then they started to get annoying so i closed down my pm.. none were explicit in a sense but they were getting ridiculously too often. I used to show my fiancee all my pms and he wasn't too pleased about them. |
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It's more 'paedophile' suggestive comments, which I think from the generally speculative knowledge of this guy might be a bit overzealous. Didn't I read that it was a different former member who was allegedly 'showing his penis' on Yahoo? Did OMCDave actually commit any internet crimes himself, other than PMing everybody in sight and treating the females with a bit more attention?
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Dave was the nice, funny guy who lured the girls into a false sense of security, talked them into agreeing to a private chat...Then Trip came in (to the private chat) and started his part...Dave would make the girls feel 'okay' by agreeing with the things that Trip did and said, and tried to make a joke out of it...Like he was their friend and it was all normal, and no big deal...They would tell these young girls that they were 'young women' and that people shouldn't treat them like little kids...Well, there's a lot more to it, but it's the typical 'grooming' shit... Has everyone forgotten Dave's many mentions of his 'school girl fantasies'? There was never any mention of Dave showing his parts to anyone...I'm pretty sure that Dave doesn't even own a webcam...But, as an accomplice...I say he's just as guilty I also wanted to add that Trip was acting on his own long before Dave came to the forum...Trip was finding it more and more difficult to 'do his thing' here as more and more people were becoming leary of him...Most of his last posts were to defend himself...Not everyone was oblivious...Dave gave him the edge that he needed |
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Obviously the full story is known 'behind the scenes' - which most of us have not been privy to - so much of the reaction to this sensitive issue has been based on hearsay.
His 'school girl' talk might have been assumed to be referring to the well known 'Japanese look' he seemed to be a bit obsessed with (did many people bat an eyelid about this kind of thing before he was exposed?), but if this is really the nature of what he has been saying to young kids on Yahoo then he obviously has far more sinister preoccupations which extend beyond him being just 'a bit thick'. The other guy was more articulated, which seems to make him even more calculating in all this. |
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And yes (as was obvious), Dave's mental capacity is a bit 'limited' |
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I did indeed, and from it it was clear who you at least thought the main culprit was (obviously you've had some background info), and that Dave was an accessory in the Asylum penis-showing scandal.
Apart from that, with his wife-sharing talk and all that other posted crap (which I must have missed if it was early this year), he just seemed a bit stupid and fairly harmless... I still don't think he's a criminal genius hiding behind the incoherency, but if he's really talking to underage girls like that on Yahoo then he is obviously a pervert and deserves all he gets. |
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Instead of deleting this one completely, why not select out certain parts of it and delete the rest, and merge this one with the "How the General Forum is Supposed to Work" thread?
At least that way there will be ONE reminder around to all psychopaths who would wanna lurk around this place. |
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BUT... Dave talking and agreeing to what Trippin told him to do, THEN asking women/girl members to join their chats on yahoo (obviously he knew what Trippin was up to on Yahoo) on the pretext of some harmless fun...THAT in my opinion is an equally unforgivable offence. He had convinced most of the female members in here, and they were more than willing to follow him to a yahoo conference...and he used that to his advantage. Especially because it involved not ONLY Asylum, but others who went through the same traumatic experience (some of them not even 18), and whose names I wont mention here. |
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Yeah suits me too - clearly now there is nobody to defend even slightly in the end, though I'm not sure if some people plastering words like 'molester' on their new site is fair to the members of Horrormovies.com. There are other channels through which to give warnings.
Unless they want to start a full scale witch hunt, but I'm pretty sure the novelty will wear off quite soon. |
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The fear was, if we put up a warning it may scare people away - but we dont necessarily have to encourage the grassing up of potential abusers - just a permanent message like: As you have entered a forum open to anybody from the www - we would like to point out that not all people will be friendly. If you have your profile set to receive Private Messaging, please understand that you will receive messages from anyone - nice people and not so nice people. It may be that the not so nice people will try and get you to do or say things that you do not want to do and, if at anytime you feel unsafe and not sure you want to continue communicating with these people, please either ignore them or block them. If you require instructions on how to ignore or block someone, please contact the moderators. We would like to think you come here for enjoyment and not to have somebody hurt you in anyway, so please stay vigilant. Something like that!! Its still early for me, so excuse if it appears OTT or anything. It's just a suggestion but I do feel a little permanent note would be beneficial and the right thing to do!!! |
They said they where going to add a note to one of the stickys all ready....
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Why am I not surprised ?
09-05-2005, 04:31 PM yourlastmistake Quote: Originally posted by trippin_therift "What you did was a travesty to me. I wont stoop low and call you names or curse at you or tell you about yourself because when I am wrong, I ADMIT IT. I AM NOT NOT NOT WRONG IN THIS CASE! And something needs to be done. " You shouldn't have been allowed back after posting pictures of your ass and dick the first time you pervert. yourlastmistake |
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Very interesting... I remember those events back in 2005... What I DIDNT know was that something happened between you and Trippin, yourlastmistake. |
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well i can enlighten you on this as i was one of the females trip was pming in msn. The conversations started off really well, basically about work and stuff...then just out of the blue he asked if he could send me something..he said he wanted to show me a pic..so i allowed him and shut dowm anit-virus. HOLY FUCKERY!! was a pic of an ejeculating penis. The dumbest part when was my ex at the time came in and called trip out on the pic.. some noOb members at the time thought it was funny as fuck. Some actually accused me of liking what i saw... and you know what the more fuckiest part about it was.. those were mainly female . and this was the 1st time ever i let ppl see the other side of my personality. That was the last time i had ever spoken to anybody on msn besides my own circle of freinds in NZ. |
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Yeah and while we're add it let's tell people not to drink drain cleaner, to look both ways before crossing the street, and not to swim after you eat for two hours. Seriously, anybody who deep down doesn't know that this crap happens on the internet or that everybody on the internet isn't nice... isn't using it. Parents should monitor their kids and adults young or old should be mature enough to deal with it. |
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nicely put. its stupid to cause hysteria over a handful of dumbasses'. Forums are going to have thier fair share and besides.. if i had of been one of those paranoid ppl..i would never have been in the situation i find myself in today :D 'sigh' |
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