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What's up Dude G. How's it goin? |
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Heyo bwind you crazy mofo!
I believe ya and I can't wait until he is the President. I just hope he can get shit done and fix problems like the economy and the gas prices and all that jazz. |
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a bunch of stupid, indecisive and naive hillary supporters are now deciding to support McCain instead. Im voting for Obama, but hes not winning. |
mccain is old, white and male. he's already the next US president.
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Time will tell I guess, but I hope you're wrong. McCain = more of the same. Obama = new direction for the country. |
Latest polls have Obama up on McCain 49% to 43%. :D
I called this almost 2 full years ago. Just wanted to point that out. :cool: |
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However thankfully unlike Kerry and Clinton he's done a magnificent job at balancing both; knowing when to not "bash" McCain's policies and records but indicate the tremendous flaws and highlighting substantial points as to why his may not be perfect--but much better than the staus quo; an d much better for the "average" [middle class] americans, etc. Hillary when Bill was prez used to be able to do that; however at the time I belive '93 or '94, any Hillary Clinton supporters you can correct me if I'm wrong was a HUGE ADVOCATE FOR HEALTHCARE. Like Great Britain and France, she wanted universal Healthcare and had pretty good poliicies for ir. However, when your husband is a democratic president with a republican GOP it's very hard to get legislation you want passed. Anyway the republicans were pretty pissed at the idea of a first lady being "active" in the presidency in addition to her policy (republicans wanted to keep healthcare privatized and usually slash a good 60% of programs democratic presidents before them create) so they made a deal. Hillary essentially became "one of them." She accepted a $800,000 bonus, with "implied gurantee" she would secure a spot as New York Senator when Clinton's term was up, in promise she'd "keep her mouth shut by the bill and drop it." If anyone watches Michael Moore's documentary: SicKo--on US failing health care system you can get filled in on all the details. However since then--especially in her campaign against Obama healthcare was always a strength of hers. She was even considering reforms for it. Thankfully if there are any Hillary supporters here she supports Obama, she spoke and gave her support formally at the convention; so please vote for Obama if want to stay on the democratic party. We need your help more than ever to secure the White House and encourage undecided voters to get out there at the polls. :) Shannon can't wait for people to Barack the Vote on Nov. 4th :) |
Just in case any of you forgot where you heard it first.... Right here.
Time to crack the champagne. This one's over. Woohoo! |
It's true! You got a magic 8-ball?
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I'm with Murderdoll and Mothman. I think McCain is going to win, though I'm seriously hoping this won't be the case.
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I have to admit I have been nervous about this all day but I'm feeling good now:)
btw...hi all:p |
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For those watching, all Obama needs is one more state, because California & Washington WILL go Obama. It's almost over. Obama will be our next president.
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Why no.. I'm not on msnbc at all (at 4:30 am my time, by the way) and I'm just talking out of my ass. :rolleyes: I'm not calling it till I see it, and it isn't over yet. |
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And this is why you have my vote. ;) Thank you, that was very informative. |
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How are you? How's baby?? |
I could care less how people vote but I'm so sick and tired of people voting simply because they want a president that isn't white. I guess it's just bad to be white now just like it is to be a Christian or to have a decent amount of money (unless you're an actor than you can be a multi-millionaire and still be a man of the people and denounce the rich). Looks to me like Obama has it all tied up, he'll have a democratic congress too so he'll get his ideas passed...
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Well, PM me anyways because I don't wanna go too off topic:D |
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I am THRILLED I can tell whomever to FUCK OFF when I am called 'whitedevil bitch' Obama is THE MAN now:cool: |
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*Phew*
and YAY! |
It's over! Obama is president!
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woooooooooooo!
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Sigh... I'm so happy this man has finally been elected. After living abroad for so long, and seeing firsthand how much our reputation and the way the world views us has been tarnished these past 8 years, and personally suffering the backlash, it feels great to be proud again.
Fucker better do right by us. :p |
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Since 7pm I along with majority of my dormmates were glued watching the results at first many were worried because between 7 and 8:15 there was a lead of I believe 88-44 McCain-many were very tense and either thought McCain's gonna' win or we will be up all night because of the nail-bitter situation. Especially when it came to FL, OH, VA, NC, and PA. I reassured everyone that it's far too early to call because 15 states closed their polls at 8 (I know my homestate Maryland does for sure) and another 15 closed at 9. Shortly after there were huge sighs of relief as we checked the electoral college again and there was a 199- 97 lead for Obama. More and more results came in as my dorm was still divided [on the left we had the obama supporters far right -republicans, in the middle the nader/ron paul supporters/ "non caring people"--these were the ones who didn't vote for illegitimate reasons] Following that I'm watching statistical comparitive analysis of each candidate's party during the 04 and 00 elections to see how great or how worse than did than their preceiving party. As you can imagine, Obama did far greater a job than John Kerry in 04. For McCain some states equal, some states not as much. Then all of sudden I see 297 Obama, 160 for McCain and the reality starts to sink in that it's over because he only needed 270 and got way more than that. The obama supporters leave the dorm and start running all around campus celebrating. I stay around just in case something shady happened like a contesting of the votes--a want for a reccount--a concession speech, etc. Then around 11:45-12am the number get even larger: Obama 315, McCain 190 and I start to fantasize a in a good way of course in what this means. Then the majority of the republicans tell me "it's cool," "they'll get over it and they don't care anymore" and respectfully went away in defeat, although a few rebellious ones posted signs up that said "Death: RIP Democracy on 11.4.08" . After that, I listened to McCain's concession speech --which to me sounded a bit choreographed, not entirely from the heart and covertly irate--nonetheless was a respectable approach to address and redirect his supporters--although many were responding in a rally form of comply rather than a speech (Ie--extreme boos, nothing politically respectable). Within the next half hour I get more results more increased numbers--all before I watch Obama give remarks live from Chicago followed by an appearacnce of his wife and family alongside Biden and his family. The words he spoke, feelings I felt, and scene I saw was outrageously breathtaking and exhilirating at the same time. Within the next 20 minutes of me checking out the electoral college once again I saw Obama 339, McCain 149. That's when I finally verbally and mentally celebrated because then I knew despite any deficit, argument, recount or contestation--I knew there was absolutely nothing McCain could do to pull it off no matter if all the precints for the remaining states was in. He just couldn't get it done with the math. What I was so amazed by is how many political analysists (including myself although not officially lol) said that just because someone is winning in the polls doesn't mean they will on election day. Well tonight/today it happened. And there have also been remarks that proved that even if a candidate doesn't win the popular vote he can still win presidency because of the electoral college. This happened--sort of. Obama did have the popular vote -not by a close margin though 51-49. But ironic to most turnout's he (like Bush in '04) won by a landslide!--actually outdoing Bush's 04 election by a bigger number. The keys here: He got the swing states he needed and by good enough margins and the ones that were assumed to be his (naturally democratic states--the West and Northeast coast) won by significant numbers. The last time I checked the numbers : 2:45 am et it was Obama 359, McCain 159. So there's my experience through the whole thing. I can't wait to the inaugaration on January 20th 2009. ANti-bush supporters actually have countdown clocks that countdown the days minutes hours and seconds til his last day. I live in Maryland, so I'm about a half-hr (45 minutes if heavy traffic and without shortcuts) away from DC--and I'm thinking about going to the inaugaration. One of my friends here has family that works in DC during all the prez inaugarations and actually has a good reason for work now-so I may attend with them. I don't know how many of you guys on HDC are Democrats or republicans, or independents-- but regardless I'm proud to know any Obamacans here. Sorry for being fanatic about this whole ordeal but we've got the 44th President on his way to the white house. Woooo!!!! We shall gain our respect back (hopefully) on the international circuit. Troops you've done a noble job thus far: it's almost time to come home!! :) :) :) |
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LC, you know a LOT about politics! :)
I'm glad Obama won. I'm not very political but I do think it's time for a change. I'm glad gas prices have gone down and I hope they'll continue to go down. I heard taxes were supposed to be a lot higher...I haven't been watching the news so I was wondering what Obama will do about the war... |
Whooooooo! Go Obama!
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Glad u asked. Taxes? you won't see a change or rise if u make under $250,000.00 a year War? Making the focus of the war be AL Quieda and the terrorists--not Iraq. Making sure they shift to their own power as we BRING BACK OUR BABIES in Iraq in and fight the real enemy. And slowly bring 'em back in an "efficient and responsible" manner |
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I asked about the taxes because my dad makes at least 4 times that amount per year. He's gonna have to pay big time. We were talking about that yesterday, in fact. Cool. Did Obama actually say "BRING BACK OUR BABIES". I think that would be wonderful. The war's been going on for too long, IMHO. |
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Yeah he'll have 2 pay---but in the long run--it won't be like he's downgraded from billionaire to millionaire --just not as much as before til tax returns of course and theoretically speaking it makes more sense. I would get into specifics but I haven't been to bed and my brain's moving slow so bare with me |
I have to say that the stimulus payment was pretty cool. I got $300. I hope we get that kind of benefit from Obama. Or was that simply a move by the IRS?
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For some it benefited for others it was just gas money--nothing heavily contributed |
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Yeah, my son got $600. I would have gotten more if I'd had him to claim as a dependent. |
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quack quack - i just hope george jr. doesn't get us into another war before he flies off to his texas pond
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