sweet list

Ive recently started appreciating the classic quite a bit more recently. I can sit through them and enjoy them. the more i watch, the more they grow on me.

This list is awesome. Much better than the mainstream ones that are on the internet. Kudos

It was put together with a lot of love from a group of hardcore horror fans.

Thank you for the compliment:)

No problem. Props are well deserved to all involved.:cool:

I've seen most of the films on the list very good :) It was also great to see someone mention "Carnival Of Souls"! An innovative take on horror. A lot of horror films pre1970 rely on the psychological rather then the visual and I think that unfortunately puts people off who have grown up with the visual thrills of modern horror. Those disillusioned with asian cinema should try "Shutter" the original not the remake. Subtley scary stuff.

I just watched The Orphanage and loved it. It occurred to me that if our Top 100 was compiled today, it'd make it in.

I was wondering if anybody else could offer any movies of the last few years, post list composition, that are worthy of rubbing shoulders with the greats therein?

I'm really happy with the way this list turned out. :)

Thats a pretty good list, i enjoyed looking over it :)

I don't know who puts these list together but C'MON.

Dawn of the Dead (1978) at #1?!? Really? I'm not sure I'd put it in the top 50 at all. It's mostly stupid. The Dawn of the Dead remake should be on the Top 10 and it is far superior and it comes in at #85?!? Hell it came in below Shaun of the Dead which isn't scary at all and also shouldn't be on the list.

Same goes for The Evil Dead, Day of the Dead, Se7en, Evil Dead 2, Hellraiser and a bunch of other nonsense. Pumpkinhead at #39 is scarier than all of them. Aliens should be easily Top 10 and dreck like Event Horizon and Blair Witch Project shouldn't be on the list at all.

I didn't even see The Hunger or Salem's Lot but a cartoon "Vampire Hunter D" made the list.

I don't much like this list either, but it is what it is- a list compiled by a panel of individuals who each have their own taste.

And I'm not certain "scariness" should be the sole criterion used to qualify the worth of a horror film.

Well I think it should be criteria enough that Fright Night would make the list and Shaun of the Dead would not IF you are going to include comedies or high camp. But I'm not suggesting it be the sole criteria. I don't think Nosferatu or the early classics are scaring anyone these days, but they earn their spot on any list.

I guess I'm just surprised that people who have enough interest in the horror film genre to participate in a forum dedicated to the topic would come to these conclusions. It's kinda like a group of experts deciding what are the 100 best films ever made and putting Star Wars: The Phantom Menace in the top 20. Not that I agree with the AFI list either.

You're crying in the wilderness. I spent years here advocating for quality over mass appeal, but have been labeled a cranky old snob because of it. Most members of this forum started watching horror films when they were kids in the 80s, and that's what they hold dear.

You'll just have to learn to deal with it. You're not going to change their opinions, and they're not going to change yours.

Well sounds like there are now two cranky old guys complaining on this forum.

:D

For the record I was a kid in the 70s, teen in the 80s, I just have a great fondness for the classics.

No matter who ended up deciding the Top 100, I'm sure there would always be films I'd strongly object to being on there. It's inevitable.

Maybe you should check out the HDC Vintage list.

Yeah, there is that. Everyone will have a different list.

But even if the list was 100 Greatest MODERN Horror films, I think stuff like Shaun of the Dead should not have any place on it, especially when things like The Hunger and Fright Night don't make the list at all.

Certainly the original Night of the Living Dead and the powerful Dawn of the Dead remake should make the list, but the 1970s sequels should barely qualify for the bottom of a Top 100 list that isn't zombie specific.

Romero's "social commentary" approach to films just isn't very interesting so his sequels tend to grade right below your average Roger Corman film. Ironically I don't see many Corman films on the list either and their contribution to the genre is pretty significant. American International virtually pioneered the B grade horror film standard that most of us love.

And I did check out the vintage list, lots of WTF on that one too.

Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (Russ Meyer Boobie movie, not a horror film)
The Most Dangerous Game (Great film with Fay Wray, but not sure it really qualifies as horror).
Rashomon (Excellent Kurosawa movie but hardly horror - yeah I know the ghost of his wife is in there).
And some very questionable Top 101s, with many significant films missing.

I guess at least is was just an alphabetical list rather than a ranking attempt.

So what exactly is it you want? Are we to scrap all the HDC top lists and put up ones that only contain films approved by a 3 day newbie?

Ok, not sure why the controversy.

It's the internet, you get an opinion and I voiced mine. I made my comments for two reasons.

1. I'm surprised at the conclusions that people who devoted time to a movie forum arrived at (I think I voiced this already).

2. I have a differing opinion.

I don't recall starting a petition to scrap movie lists or change a forum. I was not aware that there was a time limit to voice an opinion. I simply assumed any "informed opinion" (ie something other than "chainsaw rocks dude") was all that was required to participate.

Perhaps this is one of those forums where if you aren't an established "cool kid" you need to mind your place until invited to join the secret tree house. If that is the case I was unaware and I won't continue to bother you with my pesky opinions.

Have a nice day.

It's just that 80% of your posts so far have been about how crappy our lists are. We get it.

Haha i love how you invoke converations NE. It really makes things interesting. I actually mean that by the way. I'm not being sarcastic.

That is not quite accurate.

I commented on three lists, two of which I was pretty critical of. More importantly, it's a movie forum. Are we not supposed to discuss movies and by extension the merits of any "top films" list? Is this some kind of sensitive topic that new guys aren't allowed to comment on?

Is my being dismissive of many of the choices on those lists any different from a member here being dismissive of a crappy film? And sorry if I'm not coming off like a cheerleader. I'm not one of those guys who feels compelled to post "neat film" on every topic.

Also I pretty much just got here, haven't had a lot of time to read much beyond the lists. They were the first interesting topics to me.

I think most of us love to debate films, but you're accusing the people who made the lists of being charlatans. We try to avoid hurling personal insults at each other and just discuss the pros and cons of the film itself.

I don't think I called anyone anything. I did question the thoughtfulness of the list and the rankings.

If I made a Top 100 Best Movies Ever Made list and put it on what I believed was a serious forum and that list included the film Ishtar, I should expect people to regularly question my judgment and by extension the sophistication of the forum.

And that is the only thing I have done here. And it was a questioning of the wisdom of the lists and not any kind of harsh condemnations. I have not called anyone....anything. At worst all I have done is overestimate the seriousness of the list and forum.

I understand your point, but I think the people who did the list are going to get offended if you say they're not real horror fans.

Well I didn't say that either. Anyone can be a horror fan, I was a horror fan when I was 10. All I did was suggest by inference that the list was not IMO indicative of a thoughtful and researched horror fan. Perhaps that is the actual problem, that my expectations and assumptions need to be downgraded.

Well, after you edited your posts, no there are some things which you did say, which are now retracted.

Ummm no. I edited a few posts to add some things for clarification. I removed nothing.

Edited to ADD: I must say the ongoing mischaracterizations, accusations and distortions are starting to get a bit tiresome.

The one film that looked good and that I haden't seen on this list was DEMONS but I can't find a single copy of it on Ebay. There's a $68 poster for the film, but no film, there are sequels to the film, but still... no film.

Anyone have a link to a Magic Horror DVD website that will have everything I ever want to see ready for purchase? Or is this one of those things were I am going to have to keep searching and hope?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...eywords=demons

:cool:

A few I wish had made it:

A Bucket of Blood (1959)
House of Usher (1960)
Spider Baby (1968)
Fright Night (1985)
The Monster Squad (1987)

I'm not going to get into the whole what film deserves to be on the list argument but are you suggesting that a popcorn gore fest deserves to be on the list higher than a zombie filled commentary on consumerism and social oppression? The remake was ok for a gore filled action flick but it doesn't even come close to touching the original IMO.

A year later. I was born in 88 so that will say something maybe. I watch the old black and whites and was brought up on Nosferatu and the blob with my parents but I don't find them really scary and useful but yet I do have a strong appreciation for them. If I watch the blob now i'll probably say why did I ever like this movie as a kid. It was those movies that made me a horror fan though so I still say thank you to them. I understand both sides of the debates I've read. For some reason I like the "Alfred Hitchcock presents" but I'm not really a big fan of his movies...weird..idk? I have great respect for him and what he does but his movies just don't hit home for me so IDK. But looking at the list it is kinda weird to me. Some of the movies I'm like hell yeah that was an awesome movie but others I'm like ummm....that movies sucked. I understand the whole concept of the horror movies and not just the scariest but some of the movies mention above and kinda..boring, horrible acting, unoriginal plot, etc. This list should be updated and as an adult now I def say insidious should be on the top 20. Only movie I have watched in the last 10 years that made me jump not only once but about two or three times and made me not want to look under my bed.

yes Shaun of the dead was a good movie but i would not have put it in the top 100 horror movies. Based on the fact that its not really a horror movie.

Great work
 

wow, I really appreciate you guys for doing these things. But come on, saw II deserves to be in top 30 or at least 50. That was a great movie ;)

Nice!
 

I always love a good "top 100" no complaints here with your choices. -good calls.