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Zero 06-30-2005 09:23 AM

Since Haunted won't argue with people on the internet - I'll just ask a few harmless questions:

1) in what ways does making the case for a different interpretation of a film constitute "treating people in a patronizing manner" (the definition of "condescending")?

2) why does the stating of a different opinion threaten some people so much?

3) why do people take differences of opinions as personal attacks (e.g., "condescending to ME")?

I offer these not as arguments but merely inquiries towards understanding the human condition more fully.

ZERO

ItsAlive75 06-30-2005 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Zero

in what ways does making the case for a different interpretation of a film constitute "treating people in a patronizing manner" (the definition of "condescending")?

THAT was condescending, hahaha...


Yeah, but seriously... Stop signing your name at the end of every post, we know who you are.:D

Zero 06-30-2005 09:27 AM

but i'm not entirely sure who i am. . . :D

zero (lol)

newb 06-30-2005 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by Zero
Since Haunted won't argue with people on the internet - I'll just ask a few harmless questions:

1) in what ways does making the case for a different interpretation of a film constitute "treating people in a patronizing manner" (the definition of "condescending")?

2) why does the stating of a different opinion threaten some people so much?

3) why do people take differences of opinions as personal attacks (e.g., "condescending to ME")?

I offer these not as arguments but merely inquiries towards understanding the human condition more fully.

ZERO

Is this Zero.....

Anyway....you seem like an educated person so i thinks its best to warn you....don't get on Haunted's bad side....she is a witch and can turn you into a newt.




its happened before.

Vodstok 06-30-2005 09:32 AM

And god help you if she has a spell that requires eye of newt, then you will be blind too.

Zero 06-30-2005 09:33 AM

damn - i have been feeling a bit scaly and had an insatiable appetite for small crawling insects - hmm, i wonder if this qualifies me for worker's compensation????

Z

urgeok 06-30-2005 09:33 AM

i had a teacher names mrs newt when i was a kid ..

and yes .. she was old and flabby and looked like a newt.

too bad i was too young to know what a newt was at the time or i would have made her life a living hell.

urgeok 06-30-2005 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Zero


Z


now he's Zorro

bloodrayne 06-30-2005 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by newb
Is this Zero.....

Anyway....you seem like an educated person so i thinks its best to warn you....don't get on Haunted's bad side....she is a witch and can turn you into a newt.




its happened before.

Heh...Now I'm beginning to wonder how Budman REALLY became a 'Newb'......And 'Newb' sounds a lot like 'newt'........Hmm, and how come you don't post any good pictures where we can REALLY see you?......Very suspicious....


Now I gotta find out if newts eat chicken salad sandwiches...lol

ItsAlive75 06-30-2005 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i had a teacher names mrs newt when i was a kid ..

and yes .. she was old and flabby and looked like a newt.

She seriously looked like a newt? And her name was Mrs Newt?

...that's like something out of those Matilda books...

Zero 06-30-2005 09:35 AM

I am zorro - but i make my mark with something other than a sword . . wink wink nudge nudge . . . ;)

urgeok 06-30-2005 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Zero
I am zorro - but i make my mark with something other than a sword . . wink wink nudge nudge . . . ;)


a PC keyboard

newb 06-30-2005 09:36 AM

I meant this newt

http://www.famouspeople.com/famous/_images/55.jpg

Vodstok 06-30-2005 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by Zero
damn - i have been feeling a bit scaly and had an insatiable appetite for small crawling insects - hmm, i wonder if this qualifies me for worker's compensation????

Z

Not to be a COMPLETELY anal retentive jerk, but... Newts dont have scales, nor do any other amphibians.

I'll go back to my hole...

urgeok 06-30-2005 09:39 AM

"she turned me into a newt !!!'















"i got better"

Zero 06-30-2005 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by newb
I meant this newt

http://www.famouspeople.com/famous/_images/55.jpg

Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh - the horror --- the horror!!!!

urgeok 06-30-2005 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Not to be a COMPLETELY anal retentive jerk, but... Newts dont have scales, nor do any other amphibians.

I'll go back to my hole...

ha ! you're wrong !

just the other day i saw a frog sitting on one of these - and when i asked - he said it was his ..

newb 06-30-2005 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
ha ! you're wrong !

just the other day i saw a frog sitting on one of these - and when i asked - he said it was his ..

that was just....really bad

urgeok 06-30-2005 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by newb
that was just....really bad

its all i could come up with




besides, you're just jealous.

Zero 06-30-2005 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
ha ! you're wrong !

just the other day i saw a frog sitting on one of these - and when i asked - he said it was his ..

damn - she turned me into a fat newt (and a republican) - I will never mess with Haunted again . . . ribbit

Vodstok 06-30-2005 09:47 AM

Newts dont ribbit.

urgeok 06-30-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Newts dont ribbit.

they speak fluent russian.

ItsAlive75 06-30-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Newts dont ribbit.
hahaha

Don't pull any punches...

Zero 06-30-2005 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Newts dont ribbit.
So I'm a newt with an identity crisis, a weight problem and fascist political leanings - so shoot me!

Haunted 06-30-2005 10:35 AM

All right, all right...I might have been just a tad bit of a cunt. Just a tad...

Okay, Urge, I TRY not to argue over the internet. I TRY. Sometimes I get so worked up I fail. Then I go for the fuckin' JUGULAR!!!! Just kidding.:D

I'm sorry if I was indeed a bitch.

Though, really...stop signing your name. It tends to get on people's nerves....HIGHPRIEST WISE...ugggh the flashbacks.

Oh, and no one thinks you're a fascist. I may have been a little offended by your tone, but I never thought you were a fascist. :)

urgeok 06-30-2005 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Haunted
Okay, Urge, I TRY not to argue over the internet. I TRY. Sometimes I get so worked up I fail.

i dunno, i was just rtying to sucker you into a

no i dont
yes you do
no i dont
yes you do


arguement :D

Haunted 06-30-2005 10:39 AM

Poo-head!!!

Seriously, my folks have been getting on my nerves a bit. That's probaby why I'm so cranky.:D :p

urgeok 06-30-2005 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Haunted
Poo-head!!!

Seriously, my folks have been getting on my nerves a bit. That's probaby why I'm so cranky.:D :p


clip them just over the ear on the side of the head once with one of these ..

they're old, they should go down easy !

AUSTIN316426808 06-30-2005 12:38 PM

Re: Land of the Dead
 
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Originally posted by Zero
I think those who were disappointed in Land of the Dead, while entitled to their opinion, are completely missing the point. What makes Romero's dead trilogy (Quadrilogy?) so important is that each film just absolutely ripped the guts out of American culture at that moment - NOLD hits the whole racial hatred / race riots right on the head; Dawn captures teh whole 70s affluence and malaise while Day bashes the hell out of Reagan-era "EVIL EMPIRE" nonsense. Land of the Dead so absolutely captures the screwed up nature of our "post-9/11" America its terrifying.

In fact, I think the fact that Romero works diligently to keep us from being "scared" of the zombies is part of the political critique at work in this film. The zombies are "just trying to find their way" as we all are. If you make them too horrific and violent, although they are certainly that, then Romero falls into the exact cultural logic he is critiquing - might makes right; the "other" is evil and should be destroyed.

So, for me, Romero's film is just about perfect by not giving us the easy shocks, gore, and thrills we're expecting. More power to Romeros for continuing to make intelligent films in a genre not exactly known for its intellectual pedigree.

Damnit!
ZERO


Night,Dawn and Day had intelligent social commentary but it was incorporated into a good films.

When you're making a movie the number one priority should be to make it good not to rip the guts out of American culture. If there's a good film with social commentary behind it then great I saw a good movie and learned something(that I probably already know) but if there's a movie with intelligent social commentary that sucks then big deal, you never sacrifice the quality of the film just to make a message because if the movie sucks then nobody is going to care about the message anyway all they're going to remember is that it sucked.

jay o2 waster 06-30-2005 12:50 PM

I really was into the Assault on Precinct 13 remake, until the last 15 minutes. Hollywood endings sucl:mad:

AUSTIN316426808 06-30-2005 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by jay o2 waster
I really was into the Assault on Precinct 13 remake, until the last 15 minutes. Hollywood endings sucl:mad:


I somewhat agree, I didn't think it sucked but it was a let down.

jay o2 waster 06-30-2005 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I somewhat agree, I didn't think it sucked but it was a let down.
may contain a spoiler









i thought it should have ended when they came out of the sewer and met the dirty cops.

AUSTIN316426808 06-30-2005 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by jay o2 waster
may contain a spoiler









i thought it should have ended when they came out of the sewer and met the dirty cops.



I agree, that entire scene in the woods was uncalled for imo

bloodrayne 06-30-2005 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Zero
I am zorro - but i make my mark with something other than a sword . . wink wink nudge nudge . . . ;)
Hey!...I posted a story about you in the True Crimes Forum...They're still looking for you, ya know... :p

Haunted 06-30-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Re: Land of the Dead
 
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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Night,Dawn and Day had intelligent social commentary but it was incorporated into a good films.

When you're making a movie the number one priority should be to make it good not to rip the guts out of American culture. If there's a good film with social commentary behind it then great I saw a good movie and learned something(that I probably already know) but if there's a movie with intelligent social commentary that sucks then big deal, you never sacrifice the quality of the film just to make a message because if the movie sucks then nobody is going to care about the message anyway all they're going to remember is that it sucked.

Okay, that's the point I think I was trying to make, but fucked it up. I think. I can't remember at this point.

AUSTIN316426808 06-30-2005 05:08 PM

Re: Re: Re: Land of the Dead
 
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Originally posted by Haunted
Okay, that's the point I think I was trying to make, but fucked it up. I think. I can't remember at this point.


you didn't fuck it up at all, you explained it and I just elaborated.

Elvis_Christ 07-01-2005 05:01 AM

As I said in the Last Watched Movie thread...... The Stepfather.

The_Return 07-01-2005 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
As I said in the Last Watched Movie thread...... The Stepfather.
Ah...so I see that you arent a Stepfatherfan?:p :p

EXTR3MIST 07-01-2005 05:52 AM

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Ah...so
Are you Chinese?

Kreech 07-01-2005 07:39 AM

It's nothing new, but Land of the Dead dissapointed me. I do want to see it again though, and give it another chance.

Other than that, "Two Strangers on a Train" was a letdown at the end when they put a full tennis match in the movie. The rest of it was pretty much great though. Casablanca's ending kind of sucked as well, but i almost like it in a wierd classic "i have to like this." way.


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