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Gren the cake 05-17-2005 04:21 PM

Welcome to our newest member, fatty.

HARROW!

ItsAlive75 05-17-2005 04:32 PM

I just realized why we can't tax fat people.

What would professional bowlers do? Their whole sport depends on the massive amount of body weight they thrust in the direction of the lane (not to mention the fact that their income would never allow them to fork over a hefty portion of it to the government).

If I couldn't watch my PBA Championship reruns on ESPN2 at 8 in the morning, I don't know what I'd do.

urgeok 05-17-2005 05:07 PM

what about just putting a huge tax on Kraft Dinner ...

get them at the source - so to speak.

ItsAlive75 05-17-2005 05:10 PM

Maybe close down the Denny's and Village Inn's

urgeok 05-17-2005 05:15 PM

god i hate dennys.

i dont know what they're like in the USA but the one in my town is like the dining equivelent of a bingo hall

ItsAlive75 05-17-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
god i hate dennys.

i dont know what they're like in the USA but the one in my town is like the dining equivelent of a bingo hall

Yeah, they're pretty much the same here. They have good buffalo wings though...

Nice and greasy.

Iniquity 05-17-2005 05:18 PM

Hey while we are at it, why not hit up those ignorant bitches that cant grasp the concept that its a vagina between their legs and NOT A FUCKING CLOWN CAR. Christ some of these women out there are popping out kids like they are trying to fill rosters on football teams, and 9 times out of 10 MY damn taxes are paying for them. Paying for their schooling, paying for their medical cards, Paying for their foodstamps, Paying for their "EARNED INCOME CREDITS" WHAT INCOME? They will work 20 hours a week, not because they want to, but because the law now MAKES them, and in return they get back tax refunds big enough to put a down payment on a small house.

Screw that, fill the bitch with concrete and send her down stream. If you cant afford to care for your own damn kids, then learn to swallow.

And they arent the only guilty party in it either, you get these young guys that think they are porn stars when they walk around with their dicks hanging out as if its the new way to shake hands. Find one girl, fuck her til she's broken THEN move on, ya inconsiderate little pricks. I dont like having to pay for your little bastard kids.

urgeok 05-17-2005 05:23 PM

i already have a solution for that ...

people are made sterile at birth.
if you can pass a few tests... like the ability to care for a child,(love)
and you are financially capable ...and you arent a wifebeating, child abandoning asshole, then you get made fertile again .. .


think thats harsh ? if i cant affoard a car - i cant have a car ..
why in hell should someone be able to bring a child into the world if they cant feed and clothe it ?

i understand situations change after the fact - divorce, job loss, etc ... well... the money we save on welfare payments will help these people out.

Deposable 05-17-2005 05:26 PM

Re: Re: Fatty Tax
 
Quote:

Originally posted by XFeaRX
People that need to be taxed are whiny little bitches like you.
I wonder if your fat or someone you love is.... :confused:

ItsAlive75 05-17-2005 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
if i cant affoard a car - i cant have a car ..
why in hell should someone be able to bring a child into the world if they cant feed and clothe it ?

Y'know, of all the things you've written (that I've read), that's gotta be the smartest one yet.

Iniquity 05-17-2005 05:31 PM

and give teachers the ability to "WHOOPAKIDSASS" again. When I was in school, we didnt have this "Ima shoot your ass at lunch, or fuck you teacher, you better watch out or Im going to rape your ass" shit. Shit we got our asses handed to us for being in the halls without a pass, back in the day. Teachers were still hated, but they were respected too. Now teachers want to help, but are too damned afraid of lawsuits, or literally getting shanked out in the yard during recreation. The only reason I support this, is there are times Ive heard of many a classroom being held up because of disruptive individuals, either through violence or sheer lack of respect and disturbing the class. OBVIOUSLY the parents arent doing their job of MAKING their child an upstanding member of society, so if the teacher has the will power to deal with the consequences then break out the busted boat oar and whack on daniel san whack on.

Deposable 05-17-2005 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iniquity
and give teachers the ability to "WHOOPAKIDSASS" again. When I was in school, we didnt have this "Ima shoot your ass at lunch, or fuck you teacher, you better watch out or Im going to rape your ass" shit. Shit we got our asses handed to us for being in the halls without a pass, back in the day. Teachers were still hated, but they were respected too. Now teachers want to help, but are too damned afraid of lawsuits, or literally getting shanked out in the yard during recreation.
Thats what our parents are for. I don't know about you, but if I fucked up or disrespected my mom. My dad would whoop my ass. Fuck, it made me a better person for it.

Parents should keep they're kids in line. not teachers.

Dante'sInferno 05-17-2005 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iniquity
and give teachers the ability to "WHOOPAKIDSASS" again. When I was in school, we didnt have this "Ima shoot your ass at lunch, or fuck you teacher, you better watch out or Im going to rape your ass" shit. Shit we got our asses handed to us for being in the halls without a pass, back in the day. Teachers were still hated, but they were respected too. Now teachers want to help, but are too damned afraid of lawsuits, or literally getting shanked out in the yard during recreation. The only reason I support this, is there are times Ive heard of many a classroom being held up because of disruptive individuals, either through violence or sheer lack of respect and disturbing the class. OBVIOUSLY the parents arent doing their job of MAKING their child an upstanding member of society, so if the teacher has the will power to deal with the consequences then break out the busted boat oar and whack on daniel san whack on.
Agreed.

Iniquity 05-17-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Thats what our parents are for. I don't know about you, but if I fucked up or disrespected my mom. My dad would whoop my ass. Fuck, it made me a better person for it.

Parents should keep they're kids in line. not teachers.




Quote:

Originally posted by Iniquity
OBVIOUSLY the parents arent doing their job of MAKING their child an upstanding member of society, so if the teacher has the will power to deal with the consequences then break out the busted boat oar and whack on daniel san whack on.
yeah this part, pretty much covered that...

Deposable 05-17-2005 05:44 PM

I was agreeing with you

Iniquity 05-17-2005 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Deposable
I was agreeing with you
Its all good amigo, If anything its a reiteration for the window lickers of the board. ;)

nine9 05-17-2005 07:04 PM

Fuck the anti smoking bandwagon..........you want us to quit? Put some of the taxes that we pay, towards smoking cessation programs instead of into holidays for government employees ( In Canada anyway.........)


This thread is fucked.....as expected. No need to elaborate......

And..........yes teachers should have the right to get tough with bad ass kids. I suffer from the lack of this everyday. The kids don't care..they know we can't do anything, so they are rude and disrespectful, and start fights right in front of the teachers.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 05-17-2005 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
what about just putting a huge tax on Kraft Dinner ...

get them at the source - so to speak.

they better leave kraft dinner the fuck alone... :p

Gren the cake 05-17-2005 08:53 PM

easy mac owns.

Gren the cake 05-17-2005 08:54 PM

"Hey while we are at it, why not hit up those ignorant bitches that cant grasp the concept that its a vagina between their legs and NOT A FUCKING CLOWN CAR."

all i can say is :eek:

Edit: *grinz*

Gren the cake 05-17-2005 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iniquity
and give teachers the ability to "WHOOPAKIDSASS" again.
nice solution except the fact with every 50 teachers that will do a good job,t here gonna be the 1 that will totally abuse it

i know.. i watch montel!

well, it was a few weeks ago. pretty much the gym coach was dating 2 horse faces from the softball team. was pretty disgusting.. actually. of course, theres more 2 it than that..

wufong 05-17-2005 11:25 PM

its in the lard arses genes...

bloodrayne 05-18-2005 02:19 AM

@ Iniquity....I have similar views about people on Welfare...I, personally, have never seen ONE person on Welfare who TRULY needed it, and who COULDN'T work...I've only seen people on it who WOULDN'T work......I knew a girl with 5 kids who received over $700 a month JUST for food stamps!...No way in hell could I afford that much groceries....In addition, her housing is paid for, her health insurance is free, AND she also receives a CHECK...For what???...Everything she has is already being paid for!....I know it's none of my business what other people do, but it really irks me that people who won't even TRY to support their families have an easier way, while we sometimes have to struggle to pay our bills (not often, but it DOES happen)...OH!...And she gets about $5,000 in income tax with her 'earned income credit'.......While we are lucky to get enough to do anything with...It really IS bullshit...

As for the 'discipline' thing......You only need to watch the news to see how well the 'Don't spank your kids' thing is going:rolleyes:...Things didn't used to be this way.....I haven't had to spank my kids for YEARS...But, that's because they never gave me a reason to after they decided that they didn't want to BE spanked anymore, and they straightened up...Actually, they were never really 'bad'...They always knew the possibility of punishment was there...


So...I feel ya on these...

bloodrayne 05-18-2005 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
she also receives a CHECK...For what???...Everything she has is already being paid for...
I actually thought about this for a few minutes, and I think I figured it out...The 'check' must be to pay for her cell phone, hair salon, manicures and designer clothes.....I'm not kidding...She really DOES live that way...

Vodstok 05-18-2005 05:39 AM

I've known a few people that actually needed welfare in order to survive, and they share the opinion that the people who abuse it are useless. Without fail, if the person actually NEEDs the help, they barely get any.

I agree with what Cheeba was saying about fat people. i 3was pretty intolerant of fat kids when i was a kid, because almost all of them were whiny assholes. hopwever, i have since met plenty of people who had thoughtless, stupid parents that never taught them any better, and stuffed them with food in order to compensate for bad parenting. TV is the only substitute parent out there, food is used as a "love" substitue by many parents. Almost every fat person i have known was a fat kid growing up. People are what they are raised to be. If your parents never taught you to respect yourself and allowed you to be humiliated and abused, where is your sense of self-worth that would cause you to even try to lose weight?

MD, this kind o fthread is the same type of thing. Saying they should be taxed is like saying that child molestation victims should be taxed for having sexual disorders as adults, even though the root of the problem is something that cant be corrected. Have you ever been close to someone who was a fat child and had their self-esteem crushed at an early age? It's pretty painful to love someone who cant take a single compliment about their appearance because people basically destroyed any image they had of themselves before they even hit double digits.

Granted, there are plenty of people out there that had every opportunity, but chose to let themselves go. i personally gained 20 lbs in 6 mionths when i went from a woodworking job to a desk job. That was quite a blow, especially since i have always been thin. In my cazse, i desevrved any shit i got. i smoked, i drank execssivley, and i ate fast food for about 70% of my meals.

I cleaned my act up and am back down to a reasonable weight, but i knew what it was liek to be thin, and i have always had an overabundance of self-worth.

I 100% agree with BR in this whole thing: Leave people alone. Dont be a dick and go fucking with people, making fun of their differences because you want to. people who do that are usually more pathetic and low on self esteem themselves, leaving themselves open to attack by people like me who like to make assholes suffer.

People on this planet need to worry about their own shit and quit projecting their insecurities on others. All they end up doing is worring about how other people look/act, and are generally too lazy or arrogant to clean up their own MANY personal problems.

urgeok 05-18-2005 06:13 AM

i definately think we should tax people who chase things around with a bottle of BBQ sauce :D



i dont think the 'tax' angle was ever to be taken seriously.
and as tolerant a person i am .. when i see obese people (not overweight) it does sicken me.

Since i was older i know what its like to be overweight .. and i disgust myself when i get to a point where i cant stand it anymore - then i do something about it and lose weight.

by portion control and excersise.

i think most people have a knee jerk reaction to obesity .. it looks horrible and most peoples gut instinct to it is to be disgusted.

Subconciously we know that to achieve that epic mass is to eat like a glutton - a very unappealing trait.

I understand where this may have come from but i get a little tired of excuses ... Like the wife beater who 'doesn't know any differenty' because his dad beat his mom.
Fuck off ... what was the kid doing at the time, having fun ? NO he was probably crying and upset. So things that upset you that much becomes 'all you know?' How about going the other way and thinking .. shit - that hurt me profoundly - maybe i wont do that when i grow up.

I'll look at an obese person and wonder what could the quality of their life be like ? how can they perform simple functions like position their ass over a toilet ?

and yeah .. they are a burdon on the health system ..

I dont think anyone seriously considered a tax ... that was just dark humor ..

These people may not have known any better as children but as they grew up - unless they lived in a complete vacuum - would have exposure to other people and things and come to the realization that they are physically incapable of doing anything other than eating and watching TV. Pretty much the existance of an animal.

I wouldnt say anything to them, or anyone else - but i cant help marvel about such a waste of the only life they'll ever get.

are they happy ... i fucking doubt it.

I have no suggestions .. just explaining my feelings on the thing ..

(and yes - i think you smokers are nuts too)

Vodstok 05-18-2005 06:36 AM

What i was getting at is that the desire to look better is one thing, but you have to think you deserve to be attractive to try. i have known a lot of obese people who didnt think they deserved to be happy. They were miserable with their appearance, they hated having pants that other people could use as a tent, but they felt helpless.

It really is an addiction. i can relate, because if i didnt have my metabolism, i would be in serious trouble.

Just because i am saying i understand and feel for a great many of them, doesnt mean they are all off the hook. i have known plenty who were just lazy assholes. One guy in particular i used to work with had to flap his arms in order to walk, and would be panting and break out in a sweat after 10 feet...

He was just fucking nasty. And surprise surprise, he was a hardcore star trek fan....

barbra 05-18-2005 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
And surprise surprise, he was a hardcore star trek fan....
yeah well, I know this fat bastard that can't even fit in the shower so he smells all the time. He can't reach anything so when he does get the opertunity he pretty much dilutes the filth instead of cleansing it from his body. I doubt that he's seen his penis in 15 years but surprisingly enough he says he likes to "give himself a stranger".He never leaves the couch, is always at the computer, he's a mean cook...And surprise surprise, he is a hardcore star wars fan....

bloodrayne 05-18-2005 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
I've known a few people that actually needed welfare in order to survive, and they share the opinion that the people who abuse it are useless. Without fail, if the person actually NEEDs the help, they barely get any.
I don't doubt that there are people who truly need welfare, for one reason or another...Perhaps they really ARE unable to work...BUT...Like I said...In my PERSONAL experience, I have never seen a person on welfare that really needs it...There is an overabundance of jobs here, and the pay is really good...Hell, even our fast food restaurants pay $9.00 an hour, and I think those may be the lowest paying jobs......When Dustin moved here, he was surprised that he found a good job that pays enough to take care of ALL the bills here...He found that job after only a week, and he had a few to choose from.........Maybe I'm just critical of people on welfare HERE, because there really is no excuse not to work...If they were handicapped, I could understand that, but I'm talking about people who are obviously, physically capable of producing kids on a regular basis, as well as shopping and going out while all those kids are at the grandparent's or wherever they can dump them...

Perhaps the people that really DO need help aren't getting it, because only the lowlifes who abuse the system know how to WORK the system in their favor...

I feel bad for people in economically depressed areas who have no resources...But, people HERE piss me off...The worst cases of welfare/food stamp abuse I have ever seen have been in Cincinnati...Maybe it's common in the bigger cities, which is bullshit, because that's usually where all the jobs are...

Vodstok 05-18-2005 11:20 AM

In one case, the person DID actually work, several jobs, but still couldnt make ends meet.


Of course, the town where she is from (this is my mother in law we are talking about), Fulton New York, has something liek 60% of the people who live there are on welfare. I fucking hate that town.... America's white trash armpit...

bloodrayne 05-18-2005 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
In one case, the person DID actually work, several jobs, but still couldnt make ends meet.


Of course, the town where she is from (this is my mother in law we are talking about), Fulton New York, has something liek 60% of the people who live there are on welfare. I fucking hate that town.... America's white trash armpit...

Now THAT sucks...Tell her she should move here;)

Seriously...We make it just fine (paying for a 5 bedroom house with 3 floors, and the utilities that go with a structure this size...Granted I AM a cheapskate, and I'm on dial-up:p, plus a truck, a car, and expenses associated with those, 2 phone lines, cable, insurance, and food for 5 people) with only ONE income.......That's why I have no tolerance for people who live HERE, and are on welfare...If we can make it, they can too...There isn't anything 'exceptional' about us :rolleyes:

Vodstok 05-18-2005 11:36 AM

Holy shit... What do you do for a living?


We have been talking recently about looking into moving to Georgia. The cost of lving looks much lower. Houses around the suburbs of Atlanta are gorgeous for 200 grand or less (some with 6 bedrooms and 3.5 baths, stuff like that, on sizeable properties), plus, if Bree becomes a cop in that area, with her degrees she would start off between 30 and 40 grand a year, and i have found programming jobs online in that area for $80 to 90,000 a year....

Plus, southerners are much nicer, freindlier and more polite than pretty much nayone from New Hampshire.

urgeok 05-18-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vodstok
Holy shit... What do you do for a living?


Houses around the suburbs of Atlanta are gorgeous for 200 grand or less (some with 6 bedrooms and 3.5 baths, stuff like that, on sizeable properties),

you couldnt get tiny townhouse for that where i live !

Vodstok 05-18-2005 11:46 AM

you couldnt pay me to live in a city as big as toronto....

urgeok 05-18-2005 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vodstok
you couldnt pay me to live in a city as big as toronto....
i lived till i was 30 in a town of 20,000 bordered by country ..

i hated it ..

I came to toronto and for the 1st time in my life i felt like i was home. I'd kill myself before living in a small town again....

most people i know do hates the city though - everyone wants to retire to a small town..

bloodrayne 05-18-2005 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vodstok
Holy shit... What do you do for a living?


We have been talking recently about looking into moving to Georgia. The cost of lving looks much lower. Houses around the suburbs of Atlanta are gorgeous for 200 grand or less (some with 6 bedrooms and 3.5 baths, stuff like that, on sizeable properties), plus, if Bree becomes a cop in that area, with her degrees she would start off between 30 and 40 grand a year, and i have found programming jobs online in that area for $80 to 90,000 a year....

Plus, southerners are much nicer, freindlier and more polite than pretty much nayone from New Hampshire.

The Real Estate agents are apparently correct...It really IS about "location, location, location..."

Anyway, I live about 10 minutes from Cincinnati (by expressway), but I'm in a very small town in Kentucky..Where we have EVERY convenience within walking distance (Dustin was 5 minutes from Michigan, and he is STILL amazed by how much better, and easier it is here, as well as how friendly everyone is)...My house is an older home, with a lot of history...I got it for less than $110,000 (of course, that was 11 years ago, but still...), it's a very quiet, nice neighborhood......Dustin works at the airport, he prepares planes for flights (security sweeps, stuff like that)...Nothing special, not a fancy corporate job or anything.......Our house payment (thanks to a 5.25% interest rate;)) is $550 a month, and will be paid off in 8 more years, gas and electric are about $400 a month, cable is $50, phone (with both lines and internet) is $85 a month, water and santitation are about $50 a month, and garbage removal is paid by our taxes on our house, which we pay once a year, the vehicles are paid for, we just pay for insurance, gas and maintenance...

By the way...We drive a Ford Ranger, and a Buick Regal...I don't DO expensive cars (or expensive anything else for that matter)...Sometimes people make it harder on themselves because they just want too much...We don't need that kinda stress :)...It's easy to live a simple life here...

The 3rd floor is underground...The house is bigger from front to back, than from side to side......It's nothing fancy, but we are very happy here ;)

urgeok 05-18-2005 12:12 PM

hey .. should we do a 'post your crib' thread ? hmmmmm

Iniquity 05-18-2005 12:18 PM

lol and while we are at it...

Pimp my thread

Candid Webcamera

Serial Life

Horror.com Idol *with all the bands and such*


should last all of 15 minutes til the billy badasses screw it up.

Gren the cake 05-18-2005 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by barbra
I doubt that he's seen his penis in 15 years
my bf is a nurse and he said that really fat peopel dont hae wieners.

i always thought that a really fat person would have a fat wiener. but he sees kids allt he time that are like 14 years old and 300 lbs. the doctor was telling them 'ok. the term is __________. when one comes in, and we put him under, i'll show you.'

so one came in, they put him to sleep (i think they had to do something routine, like tonsillitis or osme shit) and the doctor said 'hey, look.' lifted up the dress and yep, no penis. its just sucked in

LOL. i mean, i guess theres a diff between kid and adults but... still funy.

Gren the cake 05-18-2005 01:38 PM

thoughts on welfare

i think its like everything else (like street justice, allowing teachers to beat kids, etc etc).... theres always motherfuckers that are gona take advantage of shit

so... in the end... what is the issue? ethics? morality? gov't trying to help people in awesomely shitty situations and then theres gonna be lazy fools who just want to ride along.

i see homeless people all the time, and then i see these OTHER people with these 'homeless, hungry, child at home' signs.. and their hair is died, their clean shaven, and thier shoes are completely clean. and guess what? people STILL give them money......

jackasses.


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