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LilMissScareAll 03-09-2005 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Then what do you do about that little human race thing?
What's our purpose anyway? We'd all be better off if we never existed.

urgeok 03-10-2005 05:19 AM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
What's our purpose anyway? We'd all be better off if we never existed.
well, the planet would be better off - thats for sure ..


but i like being here ..
i've done a lot of stuff that was fun, i'm gonna do a lot more.


our purpose - according to me - and certainly not the bible :


we have no purpose. but we have reasoning power - so reason tells me that it makes more sense to have fun while we are here .. to experience and enjoy as many things as possible while we are here. (without infringing on someone elses happiness)

We are sensual beings .. we taste, touch, hear ... etc ..
The enjoyment of our senses gives us reason enough to live.
If you haven't found a reason yet - change your circumstances.
Concentrate the things you DO like and exploit them to the fullest.

i grew up under shitty loveless conditions .. it didnt make me want to end it all, i didnt find life pointless - i went about doing everything in my power possible to change things and after a lot of work i was successful.

Everyone has something inside that maked them come alive ... I cant imagine anyone so dead inside that they cant enjoy anything - but i guess it's possible.

I've known people who seem to be allergic to happiness - they have the instinct to fuck up anything that is going well for them.
(the french are fascinated by these people - there are countless films about them)

Anyway - thats just my point of view - my experiences ...
I love being happy - it feels good ...

Vodstok 03-10-2005 05:23 AM

My philosophy is very similar urge. Probably why i hate you so much :)


I dont belkiev in god, i have no faith, i believe life is a huge fucking coincidence, just the natural order of physics and chemistry. That being said, i believe that concious beings must have morality in order to function and survive. And any one of us could die at any moment, and that would be the end of it. Nothingness. a true ending.

This view has actually been very freeing. I enjoy what i have, and what time i have. the little things hold a great deal of pleasure for me, and i get to feel special because im a good person simply because i am a good person, whihc makes me a better person than someone who is good simply to get advance tickets to heavan.

urgeok 03-10-2005 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
My philosophy is very similar urge. Probably why i hate you so much :)


I dont belkiev in god, i have no faith, i believe life is a huge fucking coincidence, just the natural order of physics and chemistry. That being said, i believe that concious beings must have morality in order to function and survive. And any one of us could die at any moment, and that would be the end of it. Nothingness. a true ending.

This view has actually been very freeing. I enjoy what i have, and what time i have. the little things hold a great deal of pleasure for me, and i get to feel special because im a good person simply because i am a good person, whihc makes me a better person than someone who is good simply to get advance tickets to heavan.


we are definately of a like mind ..... you pathetic looser :D

Vodstok 03-10-2005 05:26 AM

looser? is that anything like a loser, only not so tight? :D

urgeok 03-10-2005 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
looser? is that anything like a loser, only not so tight? :D

yes we are loose losers ..


its obvious we are both cheap slutty dates :)

Vodstok 03-10-2005 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
yes we are loose losers ..


its obvious we are both cheap slutty dates :)


What you mean "we" white man?


Oh... I get it. Cheap and slutty. So you mean we're guys :)

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
well, the planet would be better off - thats for sure ..


but i like being here ..
i've done a lot of stuff that was fun, i'm gonna do a lot more.


our purpose - according to me - and certainly not the bible :


we have no purpose. but we have reasoning power - so reason tells me that it makes more sense to have fun while we are here .. to experience and enjoy as many things as possible while we are here. (without infringing on someone elses happiness)

We are sensual beings .. we taste, touch, hear ... etc ..
The enjoyment of our senses gives us reason enough to live.
If you haven't found a reason yet - change your circumstances.
Concentrate the things you DO like and exploit them to the fullest.

i grew up under shitty loveless conditions .. it didnt make me want to end it all, i didnt find life pointless - i went about doing everything in my power possible to change things and after a lot of work i was successful.

Everyone has something inside that maked them come alive ... I cant imagine anyone so dead inside that they cant enjoy anything - but i guess it's possible.

I've known people who seem to be allergic to happiness - they have the instinct to fuck up anything that is going well for them.
(the french are fascinated by these people - there are countless films about them)

Anyway - thats just my point of view - my experiences ...
I love being happy - it feels good ...

There isn't much that I do like. The only way I'd ever be happy is if I was rich & famous...or at least very well off, and semi-famous. :mad: And it's not gonna happen.

Vodstok 03-10-2005 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
There isn't much that I do like. The only way I'd ever be happy is if I was rich & famous...or at least very well off, and semi-famous. :mad: And it's not gonna happen.
I know this is going to come off as a standard response, but that wont make you happy.

urgeok 03-10-2005 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
There isn't much that I do like. The only way I'd ever be happy is if I was rich & famous...or at least very well off, and semi-famous. :mad: And it's not gonna happen.

ok, you'd better lie down on the couch ..


tell me, unt vy do you tink fame vould brink you happiness young lady ?

seriously .. why ?

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
I know this is going to come off as a standard response, but that wont make you happy.
You obviously don't know anything about me. I know it would make me happy.

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
ok, you'd better lie down on the couch ..


tell me, unt vy do you tink fame vould brink you happiness young lady ?

seriously .. why ?


Because it's all I've ever wanted. To be rich & famous. If that wouldn't make me happy, then nothing would. But I know being rich would make me happy...I'd probably be the happiest person in the entire world. But it isn't going to happen. I'm not lucky. :o

urgeok 03-10-2005 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
Because it's all I've ever wanted. To be rich & famous. If that wouldn't make me happy, then nothing would. But I know being rich would make me happy...I'd probably be the happiest person in the entire world. But it isn't going to happen. I'm not lucky. :o
its the fame part i;m interested in ..

whats the core motivation ? to be loved and adored by millions ?
you'd prefer that over the love of one real person ?

not being judgemental here ... just being interested ..

Vodstok 03-10-2005 11:27 AM

In 9th grade i had to write an essay in english class baout which i would prefer:
money fame or love

I said money.

Because love will come eventually, and if you have enough money, you will be famous for that.

I figured if i had tio wait for the other two, at least i had some cash :)


I have love now. Now i want money, and lots of it. Fame can wait.


For the record i would want fame for one reason: Feedback.

The entertainer in me craves feedback, which is why i am such a post whore, and why i pimp my site so much :)

ItsAlive75 03-10-2005 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
For the record i would want fame for one reason: Feedback.

The entertainer in me craves feedback, which is why i am such a post whore, and why i pimp my site so much :)

I hear that, if I'm awesome I want people to tell me I'm awesome.

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
its the fame part i;m interested in ..

whats the core motivation ? to be loved and adored by millions ?
you'd prefer that over the love of one real person ?

not being judgemental here ... just being interested ..


Well yeah...I like attention. Who wouldn't want to be loved by millions of people? :p And I really do like acting, also...I just think it would be the best thing in the world, to be able to write my own movies and star in them, and for people to love my movies...and to love me. haha.
And yes, I would prefer that over being loved by 1 person, if you mean a boyfriend or husband or whatever. Of course my parents are the most important thing in the world to me, but otherwise, nobody could ever love me anyway. Which is why I can't really ever see myself becoming famous anyway...sometimes I think it'll happen because I want it so badly that I'm obsessed with it and dream about it all the time, but then...I think it won't because I'm not a likeable person.

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
[B]In 9th grade i had to write an essay in english class baout which i would prefer:
money fame or love

I said money.

Because love will come eventually, and if you have enough money, you will be famous for that.

I would have picked the same, because with money, you could easily buy your way into fame. If I were rich I could buy all kinds of expensive equipment to make high quality movies, and I'd be able to pay big-name celebrities to be in them so that people would watch them...and of course, I would star in just about all of them.
ahh, it must be nice to be rich. :o

urgeok 03-10-2005 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
Well yeah...I like attention. Who wouldn't want to be loved by millions of people? :p And I really do like acting, also...I just think it would be the best thing in the world, to be able to write my own movies and star in them, and for people to love my movies...and to love me. haha.
And yes, I would prefer that over being loved by 1 person, if you mean a boyfriend or husband or whatever. Of course my parents are the most important thing in the world to me, but otherwise, nobody could ever love me anyway. Which is why I can't really ever see myself becoming famous anyway...sometimes I think it'll happen because I want it so badly that I'm obsessed with it and dream about it all the time, but then...I think it won't because I'm not a likeable person.

hmmm ... you are aware that fame is fleeting .. and people lobve to build up stars just to tear them down -

you're crazy if you think you cant be loved ... maybe not by everybody but i'm sure there is someone out there you could connect with ... if you can love your parents .. then you have the capacity for love ..

personally i'd hate to be famous ... a lot of horrible things happen to famous people ..

and something else .. that 4 year old i have ... the love i get from that one kid ... makes the adoration of the public look like one hand clapping ... its an indescribable feeling ....

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
hmmm ... you are aware that fame is fleeting .. and people lobve to build up stars just to tear them down -

you're crazy if you think you cant be loved ... maybe not by everybody but i'm sure there is someone out there you could connect with ... if you can love your parents .. then you have the capacity for love ..

personally i'd hate to be famous ... a lot of horrible things happen to famous people ..

and something else .. that 4 year old i have ... the love i get from that one kid ... makes the adoration of the public look like one hand clapping ... its an indescribable feeling ....

It wouldn't matter to me. If I could be famous even for a year...a few years...whatever...I'd at least have that happiness for awhile. And if I ever got to be really famous I could make enough money to live on for many many years...possibly even the rest of my life, which would keep me happy until I died.

And I didn't say I couldn't love...I said nobody could ever love me. The only people who ever really have are my mom & dad...and they kinda have to(well maybe not have to but they wouldn't be very good people for bringing a kid into the world and not loving it), so...

What kind of horrible things are you talking about? Sure, bad things happen to famous people...but worse things happen to losers like myself.

That's good you love your kid so much...but I'm not too crazy about kids. I don't think I'd ever have one(I'd have to change alot if I did) for that reason, and also because I don't want to bring a life into this terrible world. I'd fear it would be too much like me, and feel like it didn't fit in or belong anywhere, and would hate it's life.

X€MurderDoll€X 03-10-2005 01:19 PM

I need to be famous, but I have not talented enough at anything.

My plan is first to leech on to a famous rockstar. Then I will encourage his already bad drug habit until he accidentally kills himself. My break out album will come out like a week after his death. I have it all written down somewhere... :p

urgeok 03-10-2005 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
And I didn't say I couldn't love...I said nobody could ever love me.



i've never heard anyone say that before ...
I find it impossible to understand ... how do you view yourself ? unloveable (and why) or you've just had bad luck up til now ?


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What kind of horrible things are you talking about? Sure, bad things happen to famous people...but worse things happen to losers like myself.

its amplified when ou are famous ... bad things can happen to a normal person .. usually by one other person or 2 ... when bad things happen to a famous person the whole world turns on them. then there are the psychos ...


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That's good you love your kid so much...but I'm not too crazy about kids. I don't think I'd ever have one(I'd have to change alot if I did) for that reason, and also because I don't want to bring a life into this terrible world. I'd fear it would be too much like me, and feel like it didn't fit in or belong anywhere, and would hate it's life.

got news for you .. that is pretty much (more or less) every parents fear ....
But if you look at it another way .. you can think that your kid will work to help make the world a better place.

and if you find you arent fitting in anywhere .. maybe all you need is a change from where you are now .. its a big world ...

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i've never heard anyone say that before ...
I find it impossible to understand ... how do you view yourself ? unloveable (and why) or you've just had bad luck up til now ?



That's something you should ask other people instead of me. I still can't figure out why, but people hate me. I guess it's my quietness. Apparently quiet people are worthless pieces of shit.



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its amplified when ou are famous ... bad things can happen to a normal person .. usually by one other person or 2 ... when bad things happen to a famous person the whole world turns on them. then there are the psychos ...
I wouldn't worry about that stuff.


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got news for you .. that is pretty much (more or less) every parents fear ....
But if you look at it another way .. you can think that your kid will work to help make the world a better place.
i don't see it like that though.


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and if you find you arent fitting in anywhere .. maybe all you need is a change from where you are now .. its a big world ...
I want to move to Hollywood but I'd probably have to win the lottery in order to be able to afford it. :o

FairyKorpes 03-10-2005 05:39 PM

Thinking fame and fortune are going to make you happy is simply an outlet you are using cause you cause you actually don't why you aren't happy now.

Until the day you can be happy with who ever or what ever you have or don't have, nothing is going to do it for you.

X€MurderDoll€X 03-10-2005 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Thinking fame and fortune are going to make you happy is simply an outlet you are using cause you cause you actually don't why you aren't happy now.

Until the day you can be happy with who ever or what ever you have or don't have, nothing is going to do it for you.

I think that's probably true. good post.

LilMissScareAll 03-10-2005 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Thinking fame and fortune are going to make you happy is simply an outlet you are using cause you cause you actually don't why you aren't happy now.

Until the day you can be happy with who ever or what ever you have or don't have, nothing is going to do it for you.


I think I know myself better than anyone else does. And I know what would make me happy.

urgeok 03-10-2005 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
I think I know myself better than anyone else does. And I know what would make me happy.
how about some jellybellies and a free movie pass ? :D

barbra 03-10-2005 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by X€MurderDoll€X
I need to be famous, but I have not talented enough at anything.

My plan is first to leech on to a famous rockstar. Then I will encourage his already bad drug habit until he accidentally kills himself. My break out album will come out like a week after his death. I have it all written down somewhere... :p

you and courtney could go clubbing together

FairyKorpes 03-10-2005 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
I think I know myself better than anyone else does. And I know what would make me happy.
You assumed that these people that hate think you are a worthless piece of shit. Some may, but thats the case for most, part of life. The old you can't please everyone line. But it takes alot of effort to think that low of someone, and most people are to selfish, unless you have personally done them wrong, to think that badly of someone.

You figure the worst of yourself from them, as it's better to have negative thoughts or views then no thoughts at all. Nothing worse then feeling as though you yourself don't matter, good or bad.

Or not, just what i think.

X€MurderDoll€X 03-10-2005 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by barbra
you and courtney could go clubbing together
we could compare notes. :D

Angra 03-10-2005 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by barbra
you and courtney could go clubbing together

Yoko Ono could help.;)

barbra 03-10-2005 10:17 PM

if you do take him for what he's worth and you need a personal chef... I left my resume on the what do you do for a living thread

AUSTIN316426808 03-10-2005 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
whihc

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Originally posted by Vodstok
baout

Angra 03-10-2005 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808


Thank you SO much for your contribution, Austin.

WeŽll send you a check.

:D

AUSTIN316426808 03-11-2005 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
Thank you SO much for your contribution, Austin.

WeŽll send you a check.

:D

I only take cash.

Gren the cake 03-11-2005 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by LilMissScareAll
I think I know myself better than anyone else does. And I know what would make me happy.
if you know what would make you happy then why arent you

what you think will make you happy, fame/money, is not here now is it. so why not try focusing on something that CAN be accomplished, when yuo yourself stated so many times fame willl most likely never come to you?

and im pretty quiet too. but people who get to know me tend to like me.

LilMissScareAll 03-11-2005 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Gren the cake
if you know what would make you happy then why arent you

like I said, it's impossible to get what I want...or at least feels impossible. you don't know me so you can't possibly know how I feel. One time a guy told me I could be in his movie, and although it was just an independent film, he said he was going to pay me(wasn't a whole lot...but I never expected alot from an independent film), and I was supposed to be one of the main characters. All that time I thought I was going to be in that movie, I was so happy...I thought, Wow, I get to be in a movie...that's my dream. My life is actually starting to get GOOD!... I was so excited and then it turns out the guy was a good liar and eventually stopped talking to me, so I never got my happiness. :o Now I really do know about 3 actors personally. who COULD help me make my dream come true...if only they WOULD do it.


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so why not try focusing on something that CAN be accomplished, when yuo yourself stated so many times fame willl most likely never come to you?
I am still going to make my own movie, though. Whether I'll do any good with it or not, I don't know...but I have to try. The movie business is honestly the only kind of job I can ever see myself having and being happy with.


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and im pretty quiet too. but people who get to know me tend to like me.
lucky.

Gren the cake 03-11-2005 08:27 PM

it has very little to do with being lucky

its all in ur head i can guarantee. you cant tell me out of how many people in ur town, neighborhood, school.. etc.. that NO ONE likes u?


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