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Wickerman 03-12-2005 01:02 PM

Wacko Flick!
 
Last House on the Left is the sickest horror movie of all times no doubt. I mean to make a movie like that you really must have a fucked up mind! I loved it!

Tat2 03-12-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by movieman64
Like I said in an earlier post, the way Craven portrayed cruelty and indifference for human life is what made it so disturbing for me. It is not a glossy, big name actors, and movie by today's or even the 1970's standards. The plot/storyline is bathed in realism, and you really feel like in certain scenes that you are there on the sidelines watching the story unfold. Some of the music and acting are campy, but it is a great film, and I agree probably Craven's best.

Well put!:)
Couldn't have said it better myself!

Tat2 03-12-2005 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by bwind22
Last House on the Left was great. Very few movies can be that unsettling.

As for LHOTL and Hills Have Eyes being his only 2 good movies... Well, that's just wiggity-whack, yall.

Last House on the Left
The Hills Have Eyes
People Under the Stairs
The Serpent and the Rainbow
Nightmare on Elm St.
Scream (Like it or not, it reinvented the genre.)
Swamp Thing (Okay, it's not great, but it has it's moments.)
Shocker
New Nightmare
Nightmare on Elm St. 3
Dracula 2000 (Producer)

Okay so some people might not like them all, but there is a lot more than 2 good movies in that bunch.

Lets look at this list. Hmmmmmm. Yep, mostly all good films. The Serpent and the Rainbow was very good and based on a true story and while Swamp Thing was a bit on the juvinile side, it dis have Adriene Barbeau in a wet T-shirt! You can't argue with that!
As for the rest of the list, all are good in their own right and some can be considered very original. The films above are all worthy.

AUSTIN316426808 03-12-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Wacko Flick!
 
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Originally posted by Wickerman
I mean to make a movie like that you really must have a fucked up mind!

Creative not fucked up.

MidgardDragon 03-12-2005 10:15 PM

Re: Re: Wacko Flick!
 
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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Creative not fucked up.
Aren't they often the same thing? ;)

AUSTIN316426808 03-12-2005 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: Wacko Flick!
 
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Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Aren't they often the same thing? ;)

not all the time.

bwind22 03-13-2005 09:53 AM

If you thought LHOTL was disturbing, go rent (or buy) Cannibal Holocaust. You will never look at LOTL as anything but tame again.



And yeah... Shocker is probably one of Wes Craven's worst.

Distorty 03-14-2005 10:37 PM

To say that Craven is just plain "crap" is insane, think about the films he has made and how many of those films have been landmark genre bending films, Last house on the left made Exploitation film solid, A nightmare on elm street pretty much started the idea of franchise horror movie characters and spawned countless sequels some of which are fantastic, mainly number 3 and a new nightmare, serpant and the rainbow was incredibly intelligent and well made, and to get stuck into Swamp thing is very unfair considering the circumstances Wes faced when making this film, the thing that really bothers me about people attacking wes' directing ability is that people always seem to attack Scream, but also people tend to forget that once again Wes created a new change for the genre, and sure Wes has made some bad movies, but havent most directors done that? Lucio fulci made countless crap films but his good ones are EXCELLENT, Dario argento made the card player which is a prime example of a steller director fucking up. I could go on but i wont bother, i think people need to open their eyes a little and look at what Wes has done for the genre as a whole, and also his ability to create trends in the genre, i havent ever seen another director set trends in this genre like Wes ever.

zwoti 03-15-2005 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by bwind22
And yeah... Shocker is probably one of Wes Craven's worst.
cough* hills have eyes part 2 *cough

urgeok 03-15-2005 05:26 AM

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Originally posted by Tat2
and while Swamp Thing was a bit on the juvinile side, it dis have Adriene Barbeau in a wet T-shirt! You can't argue with that!

if you're lucky enough to have found the uncut origional release ...

she doesnt have a tshirt at all :D

AUSTIN316426808 03-15-2005 06:10 AM

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Originally posted by Distorty
A nightmare on elm street pretty much started the idea of franchise horror movie characters

I believe that was Halloween.

AUSTIN316426808 03-15-2005 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
if you're lucky enough to have found the uncut origional release ...

she doesnt have a tshirt at all :D


I've gotta find that one:D

urgeok 03-15-2005 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I've gotta find that one:D
its rare .. i found it in my 'used place' for like 10$
it goes for about $40 on ebay.

some times i'm lucky :)

Tat2 03-20-2005 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I believe that was Halloween.
Actually, Universal started the whole frachise thing way back in the 30's and 40's with the Frankenstein, Dracula and Wolfman films. Movies like Friday the 13th, Holloween and Nightmare on Elm Street just gave it a needed booster shot.

EXTR3MIST 03-21-2005 11:15 AM

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people tend to forget that once again Wes created a new change for the genre
That's right: the Smug, Knowing Horror Film (wink wink!).

He even nicked his Elm Street premise from The Slayer.

Bearded git.

Palmer 03-21-2005 12:47 PM

I dont even think scream should be classified as a horror flick ...it sucked ...Last house on the left was deff. his best...but I am also a big freddy fan.....the whole dream thing was brilliant...

kung-fu-jesus 03-21-2005 01:23 PM

scream should be a modern classic cause it was absolutly original at its time. also freddy was cool, 1 was great,2 no, 3 great, 4 ok, 5 ok, 6 ok, 7 terrible.

Palmer 03-21-2005 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by kung-fu-jesus
scream should be a modern classic cause it was absolutly original at its time. also freddy was cool, 1 was great,2 no, 3 great, 4 ok, 5 ok, 6 ok, 7 terrible.
Ya I feel the same about the nightmare series....nightmare 2 only thing it had was freddy was still scarry not funny, and part 6 they didnt even show how the hell he was resserected??

kung-fu-jesus 03-21-2005 01:34 PM

yeah. they didnt show how he was resurected part 6 but the story and ideas were cool. i loved when spencer was trippen and the game part.

Palmer 03-21-2005 01:38 PM

WoW.....Great graphics....

kung-fu-jesus 03-21-2005 01:42 PM

" wait, you forgot the pwer glove"

FangoFan 03-21-2005 08:29 PM

I first heard of this film but was clueless as to what it's content was. Everyone told me it was not anything someone should watch.

So you know, that means I had to see it eventually.

When I this I was thinking to myself, " This my be a good movie but it certainly doesn't look anything bad".

I thought that only within the first 10 minutes of the film.

When this movie was finished I thought I was not going to be able to sleep that night.

There are many things that I can't stomach from this film.

It sort of looks like a snuff film in how the camera invades the scenes with horrible realism.

I found this movie so disturbing. I honestly had much more respect for women after watching this.

And the time my girlfriend wanted to watch this with me because of the same reasons I wanted to see it. I felt like a piece of shit 'cuz I knew she would get really freaked out.

kung-fu-jesus 03-22-2005 07:37 AM

what movie are you talking about?

henry: portrit of a serial killer?

bwind22 03-22-2005 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Palmer
I dont even think scream should be classified as a horror flick ...it sucked
How else would you classify it?

Whether you thought it sucked or not isnt really relevant to what genre it would be placed in so where would you put it, if not in horror?

AUSTIN316426808 03-22-2005 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by bwind22
How else would you classify it?

Whether you thought it sucked or not isnt really relevant to what genre it would be placed in so where would you put it, if not in horror?


same thing I was thinking, I think Jason X sucked but it's still horror.

The STE 03-22-2005 09:47 AM

Jason X was satirical, in the same vein as Bride of Chuckey.


As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?

zwoti 03-22-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by The STE
As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?
no

urgeok 03-22-2005 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by The STE
Jason X was satirical, in the same vein as Bride of Chuckey.


As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?

thats some extremely weak satire ..(Jason X)
it didnt work for me on any level at all.
The only thing that i thought was remotely amusing was the guy who was run through with Jasons machette while jason was still frozen (even in suspended animation - he still kills)
but the rest was deplorable ..

Seed of Chucky is supposed to be extremely satirical ...lots of hollywood in jokes , etc ..


i thought that the people under the stairs was pretty decent..

bwind22 03-22-2005 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by The STE
Jason X was satirical, in the same vein as Bride of Chuckey.


As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?

Nope. I did too. I like a lot of Wes Craven movies. (Although I just saw Cursed and that wasn't much more than American Ginger Snaps with the hip young cast.)

Hills Have Eyes, Last House..., NOES, People Under the Stairs are all extremely good. Wes reinvented/redefined the genre on the first three and People Under the Stairs is one of the most underrated movies I can think of.

When you throw his next tier of movies in (Scream, Serpent and the Rainbow, Swamp Thing, NOES3, and New Nightmare.) there really shouldn't even be any debate about whether or not he is one of the top horror film makers of all time.

Of course, like all directors, he's done some less than stellar films as well, (Scream 2, Scream 3, Shocker, Vampire in Brooklyn or Hills Have Eyes 2), but by and large, he is one of the best horror directors working in Hollywood right now.

bwind22 03-22-2005 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
thats some extremely weak satire ..(Jason X)
it didnt work for me on any level at all.
The only thing that i thought was remotely amusing was the guy who was run through with Jasons machette while jason was still frozen (even in suspended animation - he still kills)
but the rest was deplorable ..


That part was great, but the best pat was at the very end when Jason is floating through space back towards the ship and then that black guy comes out of no where and space tackles him into the abyss. I laughed so hard I almost cried.

kung-fu-jesus 03-22-2005 01:31 PM

i liked all of wes cravens films with the exception of shocker.

i dont get why people give scream 2 or 3 so much shit. they werent that bad, and as for sequels they are some of the best in the last 20 years.

in my opinion craven is the master of horror. yeah on acasion he fucks up, but even with his fuck ups his goodies make him the master of horror.

Palmer 03-22-2005 03:43 PM

Ya its horror ill give it that...but its the kind of horror my ol lady likes to watch more of a mystery type thing..

FangoFan 03-22-2005 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by kung-fu-jesus
what movie are you talking about?

henry: portrit of a serial killer?

I was talking about the topical film, Last House on the Left

The STE 03-22-2005 11:56 PM

Best part = Cyber Crystal Lake.


"We love premarital sex!"

*beats them to death with each other in sleeping bags*

crazy raplh 03-25-2005 02:29 PM

I liked that movie and all of wes's movies something about 70's and rape sorta tied it all together.

borndead 04-04-2005 06:48 AM

The last house on the Left.
 
I just finished watching the 100 greatest moments in horror movies. 2 I truly have to get me hands on. The last house on the left and Children shouldn't play with dead things.

bwind22 04-04-2005 12:16 PM

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MichaelMyers 04-04-2005 12:35 PM

I've heard of it. :)

zwoti 04-04-2005 12:49 PM

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