what are the audiences logical expectations ?
i have over 3 dozen films in the genre (italian splatter horror) and my only expectation is to be entertained.
I'm not a stickler for rules, or a linear story, or an involved plot, or coherency even - if i find the visuals interesting ..
again .. i had heard and read such hype about this film .. i was gung-ho to see it, warts and all .. i just didnt expect it to be so uneven and amateurish in its construction.
I simply sense no atmosphere of any kind.

even the 'shock scenes' were done in uninteresting ways.
Maybe if I'd seen this before a lot of other horror films I might think it was a lot cooler.
I'll watch it again .. i'm interested in hearing the commentary.

Essentially, you can - I'm willing to have a shot at least.

The Beyond may be easy to pick fault with, but its minority of fans will always come out fighting from the Fulci corner.

Probably nobody can claim to fully understand exploitation like this, but the charm present in these films far overrides the lapses in logic and makes the suspension of disbelief all the easier.

For some, anyway.

That, say, there must be some backstory to a load of spiders suddenly appearing to take chunks out of a strangely paralysed man.

Or why people suddenly go blind and take on wierd eyes.

oh hell i didnt care about that ... its not exactly the only time the eye thing has been done. (as a sign of possession)
pretty commonplace actually

i did find the fake spiders distracting ...

that wasnt my problem with the film though ..

like I said, a movie can get away with anything if you do it right. The Beyond doesn't

All those The Beyond fans take one step forward...!

Where the FUCK are YOU going, STE/urgeok??!!!

I'm going to Sonic to get a double cheeseburger and some popcorn chicken. You want anything?

heh :)

Is there anything that spikey-ass hog CAN'T do?

I'll pass - it's 5:30pm and I'm away to get very, very drunk.

I take it they don't have any Sonics over there...

EXTR3MIST tries to put his finger on what you can't really put your finger on in my view.

It's like if you don't like or get horror films in general.
People that hate horror say basically the same things about the whole genre (ESPECIALLY the lower budget, more unusual end) that have been said about just one film, "The Beyond", on here.

And on the surface what they say is true...like the spiders.

But to those who do like and 'get' these films that 'truth' simply does not matter as what's more important is the way the film is handled, what it sets out to do and how well it does it.
Given the fantasy situation we simply don't give a damn about 'logic' behind the spiders....how the scene with the spiders is done is all that matters.

It's a 'fantatsy' that seems to being accused of being TOO fantastical because some viewers are saying THEY need more logic.
But not all of us do. THAT is not a fault of the film, it's something purely down to each individual viewer.
And those that ARE happy with it don't want it any different.

But you won't change the minds of people who do dislike such films for such reasons,as on a basic level they are right....you either get stuff like "The Beyond" or you don't.
Simple as that as far as i can see.

On every basic level an Andy Milligan film is awful and as far as almost every 'normal' film goes there is no 'logic' behind liking it.
But i would have ANY Andy Milligan trash fest before ANY passionless, souless, empty movie like "I Know what you did Last Summer".
Yet if someone says THE TRUTH about it being better made on EVERY SINGLE LEVEL I would agree...but it makes no difference.

And those that don't get that will never get it as their reasons for disliking the Milligan film are basically the truth on the surface.

Maybe I'm not making myself clear. I like films LIKE The Beyond. I just don't like The Beyond. It's not that it's too fantastical, it's just that it's not good.

How can you guys keep arguing about this subject?

Why not just face that some like it while some don´t and then leave it with that, and get on with your lifes...


It´s beyond my comprehension? :confused:




Peace!








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i wouldnt say its an arguement, just an exchange of 2 points of view.
Healthy discussion is what the forum is for. It would be pretty stale if everyone liked and disliked everything the same.

Right, but this is page 7 and the discussion began on page 1. THIS IS UNHEALTHY AND INZANE!!!!!!


WUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:


fnar, fnar, fnar, fnar.. hubba, hubba, hubba... CUCKOOO!!...

ITS INZANE!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Probably more out of your league than inzane, Angra - no offence an' all.

It's all Beyond me anyway...

Out of my league!!?

What the fnar, fnar, hubba are you talking about?...... Duh? LOL





No, i just don´t wanna discuss the same subject over and over and over... Etc.


Life is too short for that.



Peace






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Then don't.

But excuse people who want to flex their minds a little more.

Hubba hubba!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


This discussion is going nowhere and havn´t since it began on page 3. It reminds me of the Thread about "Cannibal Holocaust". LOL

These guys needs HELP!! ;) :p

It did go somewhere in discovering more angles and points of view on the film The Beyond.

But you're right, it sure ain't going nowhere now.

You're right this thread is going no where............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..........................................






































[slowly walks away]

Oh i don't know...It seems to have it's uses.......
It's helping a lot of pains in the arse, out to purely annoy and moan about something they keep saying they have no interest in, boost their post count with crap posts.

Strange...Threads about 'where is our piss head mascot gone?' go on for pages and everyone is happy.

Threads made up of "I wusss pissedd and thingz an felllt fuunnnyy in the head lst nigt' are in multiple numbers and get plenty of replies.

BUT GOD FORBID a discussion on a horror film goes on for more than 5 posts!!! What were we thinking!??

LOL. :p


Sorry. I see your point.

Please continue your neverending discussion.


Peace


:cool:

Hey, he's always right..

Fuckin' Clown shoes... Seven Doors still rocks