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thEsounDofdirT 08-29-2004 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by allmykids
Thank you !!! I am a women And i think abortion is MURDER!!!
If the womens life is in danger that would be the exception. but as a form of birth control No!!!! i agree with the other things CREEPER !!!!!

:) glad we're in a similar thought process

massacre man 08-29-2004 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by thEsounDofdirT
:) glad we're in a similar thought process
i can use big words to


the square root of a ruteabega is atrocious

meetthecreeper 08-29-2004 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by massacre man
i can use big words to


the square root of a ruteabega is atrocious

;) :D

bwind22 08-29-2004 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by meetthecreeper
Actually people think I am pretty right wing, the idea is to get people off of welfare, dont you think that we have become a society that is too dependent on the govt.? I think that 70 years ago during the depression people helped each other out, not the govt. I can tell you that if I was taxed less I would give more to those in need. The homeless have to go somewhere dont they? I didnt say sell golf courses to the govt. I know the idea sounds crazy but something needs to be done. I have to say I dont know too many people that would step over someone sleeping on the sidewalk.

As for abortion I think that it is wrong, but since Iam a male and have no idea what it is like to have a baby, what gives me the right to tell a woman what they can and cannot do with there bodies? I am really unsure of when life really begins, so I dont know when to say it is too late for this. I think since its legal it will never be made illegal and it is something that has to be dealt with. My problem with the right is preaching abstaining from sex, yeah right thats going to happen. With parents who dont have enough "time" to be involved with their childrens lives it isnt going to happen. There are few parents who teach their kids anything about sex and those that do should be given a fucking medal for getting involved and actually raising what they created.

Same sex marriage-I dont care who created the word, be it the French, Christians or whatever people have the right to pursue happiness. It doesnt bother me and I really dont see a problem with it. If 2 people love each other what difference does it make? Its wrong because the church says so? My religion doesnt say a damn thing about it.

About political correctness in education, my kids get discipline in many different forms, and some may see it as abuse for whatever reason. Believe me I know the difference between abuse and discipline I had to live with it growing up until I moved out at 17. But I will be damned if some govt. employee is going to tell me how to raise my children. Someone from the govt. comes and tries to take my kids from me for some alleged abuse they are going to get the business end of a shotgun in the face. In my home state, the govt. has decided that they are going to evaluate your childs mental status and they are going to decide whether or not they need treatment. Oh I think not!!! my state rep. has got the call from me on that, I dont want the government in any way shape or form involved in my childs life. And if they dont like that I will yank them out of school and home school them.

You didn't say who would be paying for the housing projects. (Even though I'm sure it would be the taxpayers.) And how the hell is building more subsidized housing going to help eliminate Welfare, that's ass backwards. If you make it even easier for more people to get free housing, then more and more people are going to want to be lazy and get a free house. Not only that, but you can't just go claiming golf courses without compensating the owners. (Those owners may have poured their life savings into the course and now you want to take it and not compensate them? Yeah, that'll fly. :rolleyes:

On abortion, if the baby is half yours, then you have every right to want it to live. If Scott Peterson is being charged with 2 homicides (Lacy and the baby) then that right there tells me that abortion should be outlawed. How can they say 'it's a baby in this case, but not in that one'. That's stupid. If a woman is pregnant, there's a baby in there living and growing. Have you ever heard of a pregnant woman giving birth to anything other than a baby? No. The moment they are pregnant, that baby starts to develop.

Same sex marriage - Your answer here gives me even more reason not to vote for you. Because it doesn't mention marriage being holy in your religion, you are choosing to disrespect someone elses. The majority of this country is still Christian and the word marriage (although it's lost quite a bit) still has some real meaning behind it.

I don't believe I said that I was for government interfering with our kids. I put the blame squarely on the parents to do their thing and raise their kids.

massacre man 08-29-2004 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by meetthecreeper
;) :D
im genius and it is completely musalanimous

mayoisthedevil 08-29-2004 12:22 PM

no, i wouldn't. i'm a democract. although i do like your thoughts on same sex marriage and religion, most of the plans that you made i either don't agree with or it's too vague. but it's interesting to know what people think the govt should change. on that note, you forgot about death penalty.

meetthecreeper 08-29-2004 06:10 PM

I am trying to keep a straight face when I say this, but dont take it so seriously, I dont think that anyone should be getting free housing, I mean look at the way public housing works, its a joke, lets say we can build affordable housing on these golf courses how'd that be?


I agree with you on abortion its not an arguement that I think men in the world should be making. Can you imagine if a man took a woman to court to keep her from getting an abortion? Half the country would go beserk. I dont have an answer on how to stop it other than education and discouragement. What the Hell else is there to do? Put a total ban on it?? That aint going to happen. What I would like to see,and I mean this seriously, is some woman, who murders her children to use abortion rights as her defense, then people can see how hypocritcal they really are. Ever notice the same folks against the death penalty are for abortion and vice versa. Screwed up world we live in my friend.



I am not questioning the sanctity of marriage, I just think that its everyones right to pursue happiness and that includes gays. A marriage is nothing more than a legal document required by the state. What is important is the commitment that is made between the two people. I in no way or fashion am disrespecting Christianity, even though I can give a million reasons to I dont see the point in doing so.


No I didnt think that you said that either, I think that we are in total agreement that the govt. is involved way too much in the raising of our children, which I am against. I too put the blame on parents, I watch my children like a hawk watches a mouse in the field, and I dont let them out of my sight. I dont even let my own sister watch my kids because she disrespected my rules one time. Maybe we should make people get a liscence to have children because it seems that any old asshole can do it, sadly.

By the way thanks for the spirited debate.

meetthecreeper 08-29-2004 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by mayoisthedevil
no, i wouldn't. i'm a democract. although i do like your thoughts on same sex marriage and religion, most of the plans that you made i either don't agree with or it's too vague. but it's interesting to know what people think the govt should change. on that note, you forgot about death penalty.
Death Penalty-in certain cases especially ones involving children should someone be put to death, but not all cases. I am more for the person or persons to rot in jail for the rest of their lives. ANd enough with this country club atmosphere in prison, hard core criminals need hard core prison. No rights what so ever, Devils Island comes to mind. I also think the prison system needs a drastic overhaul as well as the criminal justice system. People thrown in prison for drug crimes should be getting treatment and rehabilitation so they can productive in society. Educated and given a skill. There are always those that cant be helped or changed though.

Angelakillsluts 08-29-2004 06:21 PM

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I'd vote for you :D

meetthecreeper 08-29-2004 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
I'd vote for you :D
Thanks I love the state of Vermont, would love to move there someday.

On a side note I thought it was humorous that some thought my views to liberal and some thought my views to conservative.

Ahh the hell with it no government, Anarchy for all. YYEEAAHH


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