Ok.

Exactly.

But that makes no sense at all. He is omnipotent. He can do anything, which means that it would be completely impossible to create a rock that he couldn't lift. Unless he didn't WANT to lift the rock, then that would be a case of not wanting to, instead of not being able to.

That's basically what it's saying.

'Could God make a rock so heavy he couldn't lift it?'
'If he wanted to.'

He could make a very heavy rock. (One so heavy that no one on Earth could ever lift it.) But if he wanted to, he could lift it. If he wanted to make it too heavy for himself to lift, he could do that too. He's God, he can do whatever wants, including bending the rules a bit.

It kind of boils down to this....


Q: Could God make a rock so heavy that he couldn't lift it?
A: Yes.

Q: Could God lift that same rock a millisecond later if he wanted to?
A: Yes.

Being omnipotent, he could do whatever he wanted to do with the rock.

That's why the answer to the question is....

Omnipotence does not grant the ability to make contradictions not contradict.

Even being "All Powerful" has to have some limits. If we say that there are no absolues, at all, then we cant know anything. and if we cant knowanything, then we cant know that god is omnipotent.

Which kind of kills the whole discussion.

In my opinion, it is egotistical to assume that there is no being greater than us.

Most people believe in either 'creation' or 'evolution' via the big bang.

Those that believe in 'creation' have it simple. They are willing to accept/believe that there is a God and that God created them.

Those that believe in 'evolution' don't believe that. They believe that life started on Earth due to a cosmic occurance ('The Big Bang') that led to microscopic forms of life forming in the oceans. After millions of years, here we are.

Let me pose these questions to the 'evolution' people...

"Where did Earth come from?"
(I mean before 'the big bang', where did our planet come from?)

"What created the 'Bang'?"
(If you don't know, just say what you believe.)

"Do you really believe that the existence of life on this entire planet (from the blades of grass, to the microscopic organisms in the sea, to the dinosaurs, to you), as well as the existence of this planet itself, is all one big biological accident?"

(If you really do think that, then I feel sorry for you. How depressing it must be to have that outlook on things.)

Wheres Zodiac when ya need him.....this convo needs to be killed.

God, at least one of them anyway

Satan