What the fuck? The post was about the shooting at Pulse. When did I venture into a discussion about causes?

Now, don't be coy. I believe that is where this discussion about firearms is heading. Let us enter into it forthwith.

This person just hated gays. Sure he jazzed it up by saying he did it for isis but he was born in this country and don't tell me he had never been exposed to this part of our culture before. He just plain out was an ass wipe. I don't blame Islam, guns or anything else. I blame him..just him.

Well said, Bloofer!

Yes Bloofer, some people in this world are just evil and possessed IMO.

I find it a little striking no one has blamed horror for the slaying. 10-15 years ago that would have been named as the first culprit.

I blame you.

I blame V. ::big grin::

Rumours now abound that he was struggling with his own sexuality.

The Guardian reported that data from Gun Violence Archive reveals that there is a mass shooting – defined as four or more people shot in one incident, not including the shooter – on five out of every six days, on average, in America!

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I, too wondered if it was something to do with his sexuality. He appeared to preen a lot in his selfies.

Thank you, BL. You and MM give me some relief, knowing people can still think both compassionately and reasonably about these incidents and issues.

I appreciate and welcome your opinions, BITW. In your OP you directly present an opinion (that you heard on NPR) that is generally anti-guns rights. It's been awhile now since this disgusting crime. We're open to the positive discussion you've opened on gun rights in America.
Depends how you want to define monsters and heroes... but multiple husbands/boyfriends used their bodies to shield their wives/girlfriends (3 died doing so) in the Aurora Dark Knight Shooting (link 1 , link 2 ). They outnumbered the monster, didn't they? If one or two of these law-abiding people had a conceal-carry permit, there probably wouldn't have been a massacre... but whether guns, knives or home-made devices, evil intentions will take lives. That won't end by disarming law-abiding citizens. It's the collective-good, properly equipped, that protects our loved ones and our constitutional rights.