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My girlfriend recycles, so I guess I recycle too. She's made me better @ it. I've noticed myself doing it away from home. I do think it's beneficial for the planet, but I don't think it should be forced. Just another way for "them" to control us. ;)
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"we're doing it to be better global citizens." how is it making us better global citizens though? |
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Why do you need hard facts to justify this? You're an intelligent person so someone stating the obvious surely isnt needed?
How about a basic example: recycle paper means fewer trees have to be cut down, less transportation and processing also which reduces pollution and preserves habitats for plants and animals. Clearly beneficial. It can be said that the process of recycling also produces pollution but Im certain, without knowing hard facts and figures, that the positives far outweighs the negatives. |
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creating new paper is a very simple process, recycling paper is not so easy. It has to be collected, cleaned, shredded and treated chemically before it can be turned into a paper that is of lesser quality. The treatment of recycled paper uses more chemicals than the original paper did, which is bad for the environment. all in all, the recycled paper costs more than paper directly from wood pulp. The only reason the end cost is lower is because the government subsidizes its production, passing the additional costs onto taxpayer. So if recycled paper costs more to produce, causes higher tax rates, increases chemical pollution, why am I stupid to question the idea? I'm not trying to convince people that I'm right, I'm trying to find someone who can convince me otherwise. I mean it is recycling and everyone thinks it's so great, surely there must be facts supporting why such a beneficial process is better than using landfills. |
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Also people seem to confuse recyling with 'saving money' - i think for the majority of products its cheaper to start from scratch than to recyle ( I think Alluminium and other metals are the exception). I'll try have a look around to find some links. |
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It helps that its so easy to recycle here and it doesnt take up any time to sort it. |
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I definitely agree that reusing something is better than throwing it away and making something new with fresh materials. I reuse whatever I can. :) I know some people who never re-use containers because they think that the more things they recycle, the more they are doing to HELP out the environment. :( ask some people you know about what they know about recycling, it might surprise you. here is my strategy to help the environment, it's simple like the three R's. STOP LIVING LIKE FUCKING PIGS |
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i probably should have used a different term .. better 'tennants of the earth' is what i was shooting for... when we're forced - by law - to examine our own waste .. some of us might make enough better choices to start making a difference. i recycle far more food waste than i did before ... and we tend to avoid over packaged materials. every little bit helps - hopefully overall the social conciousness will be raised enough to make it a new standard of living. I have a natural adversity to authority and big brother myself - but some things make enough sense to be made into law... |
and in case you don't want to google it, i will vouch for Urge. It's been in the news quite a bit the past few years, Toronto ships its garbage to other places through out the GTA.
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