maybe the influence is that the makers of grindhouse are cashing in on an area that is undergoing a resurgence, therefore they are being influenced by recent movies. hope its as good as the hype would suggest

almost forget, watched 2001 maniacs on saturday night and it fucking sucked. please don't tell me that was a remake. it said on the box 'from the creators of hostel and cabin fever'. i liked hostel, a charming coming of age jaunt through europe, and haven't seen cabin fever. this is putting me off watching the latter. should i be worried? :eek:

I can agree with this. In movies such as The Devils Rejects, the violence in it is quite disturbing with rape scenes and very disgusting and perverted ways of torturing and killing people. I actually found this movie scarier than something like The Grudge for the fact that it's more believable.

you can divide horror into three areas- 1, spine chillers 2, toe curlers 3, shite. personally i prefer spine chillers as they are harder to come by and provoke more thought. toe curlers are good to watch with friends cause its just weird to watch sick shit on your own. and shite is the category that is compiled of all the movies that are attempting to fall into one of the other two areas, nobody likes them.

Yea. I like your three categories. I think the reason we don't get more of category number one is that it is too easy for studios to put out category number three, and people still go to the threatre/buy the DVD.

thats the worst thing for people like us. your average cinema punter is happy watching a horror if he leaves feeling slightly uncomfortable. whereas, if you watch a lot of horror and are quite knowledgeable then you know shite when you see it. and lets face it, horror more than other genres seems to have more than its fair share of it.

Those reasons you have listed are, I think, the exact reason for the popularity of the Asian stuff. Atmospheric, mostly ghostly revenge tales instead of gore, gore, and more gore. I like to refer to most of the 80's and 90's movies as, "look, I have boobies, touch them, AHHHHHHH! *blood, dismemberment, start again*". Not only that, but the Asian directors are shooting them with the same attention to cinematography as drama directors in the States do.