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Originally Posted by urgeok (Post 518702)

the only thing better than fruitcake .... is aged fruitcake !!!

have to disagree with you on that one, aged christmas pudding, now that can't be beaten

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 518589)

Nasa announced that they plan on not only returning to the moon, but also building a lunar base on the moon's south pole by 2020.

How do you feel about this?

Some would say that there's nothing to be gained and the untold billions of dollars this task will surely consume could be put to better use - feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, crushing one's enemies under an imperielistic boot, etc.

Others claim that space exploration is not only the natural progression in man's exploratory nature, but that stepping off the planet adds a perspective that can only be gained by such an activity.

Personally, I'm torn.

I think space exploration is noble and it does elevate humaity as a whole. On the other hand New Orleans is still reeling. I'd rather see the supposed $110 Billion spent on rebuilding the lost homes. But the thought of a lunar base does make me smile.

its cool and all, but the US is so heavily in debt.

sell your asian porno collection and you could probably feed a family of 5 for a year..

incidentally :

the song 'fly me to the moon'

frank sinatra and count basie - live at the Sands.
best version ever.

NASA is cool and all, but in the 50's people thought we would be vacationing on the moon by 2000. So I take everything about space travel with a grain of salt.

I'm like Rod. I'm really torn about this. I've sort of loved astronomy since I was a kid, but I'd like to see us work out our problems here before spending shit loads of money on "space ships" and "space labs." Orange and Urge had really good points: They have been making fantastic promises that haven't been kept, and I'd not be like the aliens in the cornball movie Indepence Day just because we've sucked the life out of this planet.

You know, the universe is finite... Can you imagine how much there is and there can be? You can't tell that's not intriquing.

yeah we gotta sort out this planet first.....wer not going anywhere yet....america use the whole space thing as propaganda anywhos....

sorry but you got me singing this now

ach day I wake up in this gray old town
Each day the system tries to bring me down
With a minimum wage in the factory
I'm slaving in the Twentieth Century

And the whole damn world
Is gangin up to bring me to my knees

And now the neighbors make it loud and clear
That they want no ravers moving in around here
I wont play ball, wont do what i'm told
I'd rather be a square peg in a round hole

Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!
Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!

I'm living in a world where I don't really fit
Every day walking through the same old shit
I'm gonna get my gun, gonna get prepared
I'm not impressed and I'm not scared

Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!
Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!

Me say the war must stop
No one canna win
Ah we livin in da ghetto
On da streets of dis town
Ah da whole world
I said dis a one
...you a man
You stand up firm gotta stand up strong
Listen ghetto youth dis how we keep in da land

Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!
Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!
Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!
Don't let the bastards grind you down!
Don't let them grind you down!