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Nikkif8 09-24-2006 04:48 PM

To me, Ted Bundy is one of the most F-ed up people, like Jefferey Dahmer in similar ways. I have seen so many docu-s on them and it baffles me every time wtf is wrong with them. Jeffery would say he would atleast try to control his urges but Ted was just screwed up and when they caught the green river killer he helped with the case and like totally got off on it.

In the Movies Freddy was always my fav cause he killed you in your dreams, and he was just hallarious and crude. The 4th one was my fav after that I thought they went down hill a bit. I think it was the 5th one they had in the theatre 3D, I saw that in theatre. ANd Freddy vs. Jason was pretty funny. Who won???? To me Freddy won cause he winked even tho Jason was carrying just his head. What do you guys think???

Spec7ral 09-24-2006 05:24 PM

nekkid came i unto this world and from it nekkid shall i go

Vodstok 09-25-2006 06:16 AM

I believe thatr peopel who are interested in the subject from an academic standpoint are actually interested in these poeple the same way a car nut may have a fascination with Maseratis, they want to know what makes this particular make of human work. I knwo that is why i am interested in them. they are scary, and i like to learn as much as i can about things that scare me. It takes away the power.

the other thing is that they typically dont kill for attention. some do, but by and large, the media frenzy is not the goal, the kill and the weird shit they do with the body afterward is the goal. it invloves sexual gratification more than anything. glory is a partial goal for some killers, but most are more than happy to never ever have anythign they are doing discovered in any form. gacy, dahmer and Ridgeway didnt want their victims to be found, which is why they hid and/or disposed of them.

On the plus side, i think it is refreshing to see some one so repulsed by their actions that they have no interest in the subject at all. If there were more people wqith that attitude, urge, a lot less of these freaks would get the satisfaction of celebrity.

And natural born killers would have been a flop.

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Originally posted by urgeok
funny but i dont find it fascinating at all ..

unless you are a phsychologist or in law enforcement i cant understand the attraction to this kind of information.


i do understand being interested in things ..

some people like cars .. want to know how they work - keep stats ..

some people like aircraft - same thing.

I like movies and a ton of other stuff ...

these interests enrich peoples lives. I cant comprehend being fascinated with the minds and methods and motivations of the foulest scum on the planet.

to me i draw a comparrison with being fascinated with shit.

there is shit in the world .. we shit every day.

i'm really not interested in shit .. whats in it .. why i's brown.
how big some peoples shit is, how many times they shit.

i just wipe it off and flush it away.

i suppose that if there was a reason for me to need to know about shit (i was a Dr.) then it would be interesting to me but i'm not.
the information does nothing to enrich my life or stimulate my mind because i find shit unpleasant.

i guess i'm speaking soley for myself here but i have no interest or find no fascination with human pieces of shit. talking about them outside the police station gives most of them exactly what they wanted when they set out to destroy lives in the 1st place .. attention.

i like horror films for the goofy escapism and the attempt at thrills ..i have always preferred the supernatural films because they arent real.

i guess i've always been uncomfortable when the lines of entertainment get blurred with unpleasant reality - as exploitation films often do.
this whole serial killer thing plays into that very closely.

am i saying everyone should think like me? - nope

i'm just saying that because the thinking is so foreign to me - i i do really wonder - and question the thought process of people who are fascinated with shit.


crippler666 09-25-2006 08:29 AM

I find it interesting in the fact that no-one notices these people. They go around day to day, living a near to normal life in most cases.

Some of these people manage to convince their partner no to go to the police. Some have killed their partners.

Some manage to operate for years before being caught or before someone realises there is a pattern.

For me if they are to keep them alive then they should be studied as once they see what caused them to do what they did, then maybe they can stop others before a body count rises.

We should take an interest in this as we are surrounded by people who we don't know, even the people we do know, how well do we really know them?

Vodstok 09-25-2006 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by crippler666
I find it interesting in the fact that no-one notices these people. They go around day to day, living a near to normal life in most cases.

Some of these people manage to convince their partner no to go to the police. Some have killed their partners.

Some manage to operate for years before being caught or before someone realises there is a pattern.

For me if they are to keep them alive then they should be studied as once they see what caused them to do what they did, then maybe they can stop others before a body count rises.

We should take an interest in this as we are surrounded by people who we don't know, even the people we do know, how well do we really know them?

The issue here is that the typical serial killer is a chameleon. they give the appearance of normalcy and compassion usually, but it is all an act. this is part of the reason they are almost never found innocent by reason of insanity, because they know how to masquerade as "normal", and take steps to cover up their crime. They know right from wrong, at least in the framework of how they would be percieved by society at large.

i agree that they should be studied in an attempt to predict the same type of behavior in other and hopefully prevent potential serial killers from acting. The problem is, as Haunte dpointed out, that serial killers are sociopaths. there is no cure fo rwhat they have, it's not really a sickness, it's a state. it is a very part of that person's being, who they are.

In the cases where they are actually "crazy" (like herbert mullins), being a nut-job hyappens to be a side sickness, they are both psychotic AND a sociopath. Think of a sociopath as a car without a lighter built in. the outlet for the lighter isnt there, not even a removeable panel to install one later. it just doesnt exist, and can't be added later. The lighter is compassion, empathy, and anything other than completely self-serving thougts in a sociopath. the framework for such a thing does not exist.

Oddly, many sociopaths do empathize with animals. some have been animal rights activists and such, but more often, they torture and kill animals long before they move on to people. that little piece that makes you flinch when someone is hurt on tv or a movie didnt make it into the finished model.

psycho_butthead 09-25-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by crippler666
I find it interesting in the fact that no-one notices these people. They go around day to day, living a near to normal life in most cases.

Some of these people manage to convince their partner no to go to the police. Some have killed their partners.

Some manage to operate for years before being caught or before someone realises there is a pattern.

For me if they are to keep them alive then they should be studied as once they see what caused them to do what they did, then maybe they can stop others before a body count rises.

We should take an interest in this as we are surrounded by people who we don't know, even the people we do know, how well do we really know them?

They should be studied. Cuz I want to know how the hell they get away with it for so long mwhaha for my own "reason I want to know. -laughs evily-

Haunted 09-25-2006 04:14 PM

^And what we have here is an exemplary member of society. I sincerely hope that you're young enough to make a comment like that.

psycho_butthead 09-25-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Haunted
^And what we have here is an exemplary member of society. I sincerely hope that you're young enough to make a comment like that.
don't worry im 15. wait never mind worry. i am the future lol mwhahaha


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