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urgeok 05-25-2005 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
He should have gotten a fucking dixie cup and a kazoo. "Congradulations mr president. now get to work, fuck head."
he's prefer an uzi and a rocket launcher ..

Vodstok 05-25-2005 05:46 AM

Nah... Uzi's are Jewish. he's a born again christian, im sure he would want a nice American made MP5. Oh wait, those are german....

Not that he knows any better.

ShankS 05-25-2005 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Dont you guys have social medicine?



we do... it's Nation Insurance Contributions. Can't remeber the % figure off the top of my head. These contributions go towards hospitals, doctors and pensions etc. They are going to something usefull now, but the longterm problem here is, currently a portion of my N.I contributions are currently paying the pensions of the current retired Folks. The Uk is experiencing an ever ingreasing aging population, since people are living longer... the government worked out and reckond that within 25/30 years when I'm around 5 years away from my retirement, the aging population will have grown so large, that the younger workers who will pe paying my pention will have dwindled and the government will have to find a way of getting more money to continue paying out state pensions in 30 years time.

I read a while ago that when the pension contributions were set up there were about 33 workers paying a small percentage for each retired persion. in 30 years time it will be more like a 5/1 ratio, so it's easy to see that N.I contributions will increase a lot or something else has to be figured out.

the main problem is that the govenrment rely far to heavily on current workers paying for current pensions, ther is no form of govenment money 'storage' for future pension payouts. So when I retire, there will be a high chance that there is no state pension, and everyone will have to save more during their carrers and save into privat/company pensions schemes.

Vodstok 05-25-2005 06:15 AM

Same here with social security. Odds are very good that i will never see it in my lifetime, which is fine becaus ei would prefer to be independantly wealthy anyway.


I love how politicians never look past their own terms...

ShankS 05-25-2005 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Same here with social security. Odds are very good that i will never see it in my lifetime, which is fine becaus ei would prefer to be independantly wealthy anyway.


I love how politicians never look past their own terms...

most of em are old gits anyway, and know they'll get massive pensions with perks from the government in a few years.

Vodstok 05-25-2005 06:40 AM

hey, in your country, do they get to vote themselves raises?

They do here! Isnt that great? They all work for large companies anyway, or are in some other way inpdependantly wealthy, plus they make a quarter million bucks a year, and then they tell us what to do with our pittance...

I swear... Government positions should all be unpaid. No money invloved at all. That way, it would only attract either honest folks, or just power hungry assholes, no greedy ones.

urgeok 05-25-2005 06:44 AM

how about electricity and running water .. any of that in your country there Shanks ? :)

ShankS 05-25-2005 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
hey, in your country, do they get to vote themselves raises?

They do here! Isnt that great? They all work for large companies anyway, or are in some other way inpdependantly wealthy, plus they make a quarter million bucks a year, and then they tell us what to do with our pittance...

I swear... Government positions should all be unpaid. No money invloved at all. That way, it would only attract either honest folks, or just power hungry assholes, no greedy ones.

not sure of the specifics, but it is all agreed within govenment, by some elected group of people .... no doubt the MP's getting the rises colaborate in order to get a higher rise. Most of the ones on the top wack get around £70k+ per year anyway.

ShankS 05-25-2005 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
how about electricity and running water .. any of that in your country there Shanks ? :)
not in my parts... we have to rely on the brook and hope it don't freeze up in winter, and run dry dring the summer, washing the car's a bit of a chore. the stream powers the electricity druing strong flowing times, the rest of the seasons we rely on candles.

urgeok 05-25-2005 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by ShankS
not in my parts... we have to rely on the brook and hope it don't freeze up in winter, and run dry dring the summer, washing the car's a bit of a chore. the stream powers the electricity druing strong flowing times, the rest of the seasons we rely on candles.
poor buggers ..

let me know when and if it gets bad .. i'm going to take up a collection of old coats and sleeping bags and get them sent right over there.

you can hand the extras out to your neighbours.

lets go everyone ! we have a moral obligation to help our 3rd world neighbours !


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