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AUSTIN316426808 02-17-2005 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
It's got to be better than Mystic River.... That movie was an ass burner and just kind of retarded. Great acting though.
yeah it's a great movie(My fav. all-time/made 4th on my all-time list) I meant sad as in my punk ass almost cried sad not it was a bad ending sad. Mystic River was pretty good not nearly as good as MDB but ok, it was really well acted but Bill Murray got screwed out of his oscar.

AUSTIN316426808 02-17-2005 01:16 PM

I found Falling Down and just finished watching it.

massacre man 02-17-2005 01:44 PM

Saw

42ndStreetFreak 02-17-2005 02:00 PM

"Man on Fire"...shot itself in the foot after seemingly going the right way.



***SPOILERS***





Exactly WHY did Creasy not kill the woman in the techno club after getting what he wanted and getting the girl? She was just as part of it as the 2 men in the club he DID kill, and he stated that EVERYONE involved would die.
It wimped out.

Proof of this is in the deleted scenes where a whole assassination of someone involved was removed to tone down the violence! The whole 2nd half of the film is MEANT to be about violence they build Creasy and his quest into nothing but a whirlwind of death! A fart more like.

And the end? What was that? She may not have been dead but she was still kidnapped and put through hell. He could have had a gun in his waistband and killed the Brother as he ran past to supposed freedom, have 'The Voice' there as well and go out taking them out.
As it was we are left with kidnappers unpunished and a VERY VERY bad tagged on coda that (helpfully!) has 'The Voice' killed in a matter of fact fashion at the end by the Police.
BUT Creasy had no idea about this...so as far as he knew he simply let them all go and died in the car! Man on fire? Hmmm...

OR why not use the alternative ending with the bomb? MUCH better. Not only are they all killed but Creasy is the one that did it (which i thought WAS the whole point of the film!).

Could have been so good (and it was at times) but it pandered to Studio suits (though why the DVD had to I do not know, Director's cut was needed here) and it wimped out.
What Tarantino was doing saying it's "As tough as Hell" i do not know.

And the deleted scenes also show how disgustinglly wasteful Hollywood is! They filmed a big action scene, blocked the road off, had lots of extras, lots of bullets and a car blow up....and they cut it out! HOW MUCH did all that cost?
Surely this is why you have SCRIPT meetings, this is why people get payed a lot to decide BEFORE money is spent in what goes and what stays. Small things will of course be filmed and then have to go of course...But a whole action scene?!

More money than talent some people.

massacre man 02-17-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak




Exactly WHY did Creasy not kill the woman in the techno club after getting what he wanted and getting the girl? She was just as part of it as the 2 men in the club he DID kill, and he stated that EVERYONE involved would die.
It wimped out.


because it was in the script

42ndStreetFreak 02-17-2005 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by massacre man
because it was in the script
Was that really worth the time spent typing? Dear me.

massacre man 02-17-2005 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Was that really worth the time spent typing? Dear me.
finger exercise

42ndStreetFreak 02-17-2005 02:36 PM

Well, you sig is a 100 times longer than all your posts...Time to switch that around a wee bit i think.

massacre man 02-17-2005 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Well, you sig is a 100 times longer than all your posts...Time to switch that around a wee bit i think.
yeah i'm just lazy

BH14 02-17-2005 02:47 PM

Man on Fire is a great movie!! 9/10

Thats what i said...haha

massacre man 02-17-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by BH14
Man of Fire is a great movie!! 9/10
do you mean man on fire?

newb 02-17-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
"Man on Fire"...shot itself in the foot after seemingly going the right way.



***SPOILERS***





Exactly WHY did Creasy not kill the woman in the techno club after getting what he wanted and getting the girl? She was just as part of it as the 2 men in the club he DID kill, and he stated that EVERYONE involved would die.
It wimped out.

Proof of this is in the deleted scenes where a whole assassination of someone involved was removed to tone down the violence! The whole 2nd half of the film is MEANT to be about violence they build Creasy and his quest into nothing but a whirlwind of death! A fart more like.

And the end? What was that? She may not have been dead but she was still kidnapped and put through hell. He could have had a gun in his waistband and killed the Brother as he ran past to supposed freedom, have 'The Voice' there as well and go out taking them out.
As it was we are left with kidnappers unpunished and a VERY VERY bad tagged on coda that (helpfully!) has 'The Voice' killed in a matter of fact fashion at the end by the Police.
BUT Creasy had no idea about this...so as far as he knew he simply let them all go and died in the car! Man on fire? Hmmm...

OR why not use the alternative ending with the bomb? MUCH better. Not only are they all killed but Creasy is the one that did it (which i thought WAS the whole point of the film!).

Could have been so good (and it was at times) but it pandered to Studio suits (though why the DVD had to I do not know, Director's cut was needed here) and it wimped out.
What Tarantino was doing saying it's "As tough as Hell" i do not know.

And the deleted scenes also show how disgustinglly wasteful Hollywood is! They filmed a big action scene, blocked the road off, had lots of extras, lots of bullets and a car blow up....and they cut it out! HOW MUCH did all that cost?
Surely this is why you have SCRIPT meetings, this is why people get payed a lot to decide BEFORE money is spent in what goes and what stays. Small things will of course be filmed and then have to go of course...But a whole action scene?!

More money than talent some people.


I can't agree more. The ending really felt like a let down.
Thats Hollywood for ya.

massacre man 02-17-2005 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by BH14
Man on Fire is a great movie!! 9/10

Thats what i said...haha

still says of in my quote

IDrinkYourBlood 02-17-2005 03:52 PM

three to tango

Angra 02-17-2005 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by IDrinkYourBlood
three to tango

Found it funny the first time i saw it. Second time.........Yuch!!:(

IDrinkYourBlood 02-17-2005 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Angra
Found it funny the first time i saw it. Second time.........Yuch!!:(
I found it pretty lame. so i fell asleep. for being late 90's (1999 to be exact) it was pretty crappy.

slasherman 02-18-2005 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
"What Tarantino was doing saying it's "As tough as Hell" i do not know.
.

in the movie ? or as a teaser ? Have'nt seen this but I liked "True Romance"....
Anyway...saw "Dune" a great sc.fi. (Lynch of course):eek:

42ndStreetFreak 02-18-2005 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by slasherman
in the movie ? or as a teaser ? Have'nt seen this but I liked "True Romance"....
Anyway...saw "Dune" a great sc.fi. (Lynch of course):eek:

Quote on the DVD cover.

And at times it was, very tough. But the refusal to kill any women involved in the kidnappings, only the men, and that flat finale let it down.

42ndStreetFreak 02-18-2005 08:21 AM

By all that is holy! "MST3K: 'Manos: Hands of Fate'". Now that was indeed a BAD film! A bad, bad, bad film. At least some of the MST3K stuff was funny.

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
"Man on Fire"...shot itself in the foot after seemingly going the right way.



***SPOILERS***





Exactly WHY did Creasy not kill the woman in the techno club after getting what he wanted and getting the girl? She was just as part of it as the 2 men in the club he DID kill, and he stated that EVERYONE involved would die.
It wimped out.


**Spoilers**



No matter how ''on fire'' he was suppose to be, most of the time you see a movie about an assassin they don't go for women and kids. I don't see how you can think he got soft, he was bleeding to death and had been through quite a bit in the strech of a day or two emotionally and physically so after he found out Pita was alive all he wanted to do was get her back and that's what he did.

Think about it, what if it were you? Forget all the assassin for the goverment, killing machine,''creasy's art is death'' stuff. You've been through hell and you're completely worn out, you find out she's alive ''the voice'' makes you the same offer. You're telling me you wouldn't have done the same and just got it over with?

But hey, that's just me.:)

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 09:45 AM

Friday Night Lights

wanted to see it in the theater but didn't for whatever reason which I can't remember.

I thought it was really good, Billy Bob Thorton did a good job as he usually does and the guys who played the roles of the players also did a pretty decent job. Although it wasn't the best sports movie I've ever seen (which I was told it would be)it was still really well done. Like I said it wasn't the best sports film I've seen but it did have the most fucked up scene I've ever seen in a sports movie.

Angra 02-18-2005 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by IDrinkYourBlood
I found it pretty lame. so i fell asleep. for being late 90's (1999 to be exact) it was pretty crappy.

True. "Chandler" dosenīt do well outside " Friends".... Heīs just not that funny.:(

Angra 02-18-2005 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Friday Night Lights

Like I said it wasn't the best sports film I've seen but it did have the most fucked up scene I've ever seen in a sports movie.


And what happened in that scene?

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
And what happened in that scene?
I don't want to give away the ending.

Angra 02-18-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I don't want to give away the ending.



:(

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
:(
I can just put a spoiler warning on it duh.


**Friday Night Lights Spoiler**








They make it to the state championship and they need a touchdown to win on the last play. The QB slips away from a few tackles and runs, and he gets tackled at the ONE FUCKING YARD LINE.

Angra 02-18-2005 10:10 AM

:D What a happy ending.:D

BH14 02-18-2005 11:03 AM

friday night lights rules... one of the only sport movies that had me choking up a little. i dont know why... very very good movie

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Angra
:D What a happy ending.:D

I probably would've just been like ''aw man that's fucked up'' about a week ago but I've become kind of a pussy lately. Sunday I saw a movie that almost had me in tears then I go home and watch another movie that got me choked up and ever since I've been watching a bunch of dramas which I do anyway but it's been more than usual lately.

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 01:06 PM

I watched Memento again.

I'm usually one of the few people I know that gets movies like Memento the first time around but I had to watch it again to catch a few things that were a little blurry the first time.

BH14 02-18-2005 01:10 PM

Watch Antwone Fisher, Big Fish.... but watch it alone just in case you dont wanna embarass yourself. haha

Memento was good... lil bit over hyped and not as good as watching it the 2nd time.

urgeok 02-18-2005 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I probably would've just been like ''aw man that's fucked up'' about a week ago but I've become kind of a pussy lately. Sunday I saw a movie that almost had me in tears then I go home and watch another movie that got me choked up and ever since I've been watching a bunch of dramas which I do anyway but it's been more than usual lately.
i cry every time i see heidi

sniff

Vodstok 02-18-2005 01:19 PM

Big Fish nearly killed me. I watched that with my wife on July 4th. i am really close to my dad, and the end of that movie had me bawling like a fucking baby....

BH14 02-18-2005 01:26 PM

and dont forget "Pay It Forward"... I love horror but I also like a nice drama here and there

urgeok 02-18-2005 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by BH14
and dont forget "Pay It Forward"... I love horror but I also like a nice drama here and there
ugh .. if that had any more sugar in it i'd have gotten a mouth full of cavities watching it...

thats the 1st time i saw Spacey in a movie i didnt like

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i cry every time i see heidi

sniff

smartass:)

urgeok 02-19-2005 12:50 AM

well, i couldnt sleep so i wanted to watch something dumb.
I watched Rambo - 1st Blood II.

I got what i was looking for ..
hadn't seen it in so long i had forgotten just how bad it was.

Angra 02-19-2005 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I watched Memento again.

I'm usually one of the few people I know that gets movies like Memento the first time around but I had to watch it again to catch a few things that were a little blurry the first time.



I didnīt get it?:confused:


And iīve tried to watch it several times now. Didnīt help...

Guess i just donīt have enough consentration to stay focused for that kind of movie?


I wish there was a straight forward version on the DVD....:(

Angra 02-19-2005 05:03 AM

"Creep".



Sucked ass...

First half was like a "28 days later" ripoff. Last half became much better, but all in all it still sucked...



"The story of Ricky"


Insanely violent asian martial art flick.

Bad story, bad acting, bad lines and very, VERY bad translations on the subtitles.

I LOVED IT!!!!:D

Canīt decide if the major spelling errors was irritating or hilarious, but it definitely didnīt ruin the movie wich literally KICKED AAASS!!!
:cool: :cool: :cool:



Canīt remember wich of you at Horror.com who recommented it, but HAIL SATAN!!!:)

AUSTIN316426808 02-19-2005 05:12 AM

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Originally posted by Angra
I didnīt get it?:confused:


And iīve tried to watch it several times now. Didnīt help...

Guess i just donīt have enough consentration to stay focused for that kind of movie?


I wish there was a straight forward version on the DVD....:(


it's backwards, all you have to do is pay attention. Instead of seeing cause and effect your seeing effect then cause.


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