Okay, enough are in favor so we seal the 80s here. These are our final chosen films...

IN THE CUT

A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - 10

Evil Dead II (1987) - 9
The Evil Dead (1981) - 9
The Shining (1980) - 9

The Thing (1982) - 8

Friday the 13th (1980) - 7
Hellraiser (1987) - 7
Poltergeist (1982) - 7

Aliens (1986) - 6
An American Werewolf in London (1981) - 6
Fright Night (1985) - 6
Re-Animator (1985) - 6

Basket Case (1982) - 5
Videodrome (1983) - 5

Cannibal Holocaust (1980) - 4
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) - 4
The Fly (1986) - 4

Pet Sematary (1989) - 3
Scanners (1981) - 3
The Howling (1981) - 3

The Changeling (1980) (backed by Straker, seconded by The Villain, Giganticface, metternich1815, fortunato) [IN]
The Beyond (1981) - 3 (backed by metternich1815, seconded by tiberius, fortunato, Giganticface, realdealblues, neverending) [IN]


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HONORABLE MENTIONS

The Return of the Living Dead (1985) - 4 (backed by Sculpt, seconded by natedog722, Kandarian Demon) {metternich1815*, Giganticface*, The Villain*}
Demons (1985) - 4 (backed by The Villain, seconded by Straker) {Giganticface*, Kandarian Demon*, neverending*}
Day of the Dead (1985) - 3 (backed by Sculpt, seconded by realdealblues) {metternich1815*, Kandarian Demon*}
The Fog (1980) - 3 (backed by metternich1815, seconded by natedog722, Kandarian Demon, Straker) {The Villain*} (-1)
Near Dark (1987) - 2 (backed by neverending, seconded by metternich1815, Sculpt) {Giganticface*, The Villain*, Straker*}
Sleepaway Camp (1983) - 2 (backed by metternich1815) {Giganticface*} {neverending*} {fortunato*} {Straker*}



DEBATABLE


Gremlins (1984) - 4

Child's Play (1988) - 3 (backed by The Villain, seconded by realdealblues)
Christine (1983) - 3 (backed by Sculpt, seconded by natedog722)
Friday the 13th Part 2 (1981) - 3 (backed by The Villain)
Prince of Darkness (1987) - 3
Pumpkinhead (1988) - 3 (backed by neverending, seconded by The Villain) {Kandarian Demon*} (-1)
Santa Sangre (1989) - 3



MINORITY

A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987) - 2
Bad Taste (1987) - 2
Cat People (1982) - 2 {Straker*} {neverending*}
Cujo (1983) - 2 (backed by The Villain)
Friday the 13th Part III (1982) - 2 (backed by The Villain)
From Beyond (1986) - 2
Pin (1988) - 2
Poltergeist II: The Other Side (1986) - 2
Predator (1987) - 2 (backed by The Villain, seconded by metternich1815, tiberius)
Psycho II (1983) - 2
The Entity (1982) - 2
The Gate (1987) - 2 (backed by The Villain)
The Lost Boys (1987) - 2 (backed by The Villain)
The Vanishing (1988) - 2



SINGLE VOTES TO

A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985)
Altered States (1980)
Angst (1983)
Baxter (1989)
Blue Velvet (1986) (backed by neverending) {Straker*}
Children of the Corn (1984)
Combat Shock (1984)
Creepshow (1982)
DeepStar Six (1989)
Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter (1984)
The Funhouse (1981)
Galaxy of Terror (1981)
Ghost Story (1981)
Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988)
Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988)
Inferno (1980)
Killer Klowns From Outer Space (1988)
Le notti del terrore (1981)
Leviathan (1989)
Link (1986)
Maniac Cop (1988)
Maximum Overdrive (1986)
Men Behind the Sun (1988)
Monkey Shines (1988)
Motel Hell (1980)
Mr. Vampire Saga (1985)
Ms. 45 (1981) (backed by neverending)
My Bloody Valentine (1981)
Nekromantik (1987)
Night of the Demons (1988)
Phantasm II (1988)
Phenomena (1985)
Possession (1981)
Silent Night, Deadly Night (1984)
Tenebre (1982)
Tetsuo (1989)
The Believers (1987)
The Blob (1988)
The Hitcher (1986)
The Monster Squad (1987)
The Stuff (1985)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (1986)
The Video Dead (1987)
The Woman in Black (1989 TV Movie) (backed by The Villain)
They Live (1988) (backed by Sculpt)
Warlock (1989)
Xtro (1983)


SPECIAL SECTION - REST OF THE GIANT MONSTER FILMS OF THE 80s :-

Alligator 1980
Gamera: Super Monster 1980
Godzilla vs. Biollante 1989
King Kong Lives 1986
Pulgasari 1985
Q - The Winged Serpent 1982
The Lair of the White Worm 1988
The Return of Godzilla 1984
Yamata no Orochi no Gyakushu 1985

{* = HONORABLE MENTIONS BACKINGS}



Let's now venture into the 90s...

IN THE CUT

Candyman (1992) - 11

Jacob's Ladder (1990) - 9
Scream (1996) - 9
Se7en (1995) - 9

Army of Darkness (1992) - 8
Dead Alive (1992) - 8
Misery (1990) - 8
The Silence of the Lambs (1991) - 8
The Blair Witch Project (1999) - 8

The Sixth Sense (1999) - 7

Dracula (1992) - 5
I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) - 5
In the Mouth of Madness (1994) - 5
Wishmaster (1997) - 5

The Exorcist III (1990) - 4

Cronos (1993) - 3
Cube (1997) - 3
Sleepy Hollow (1999) - 3

Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994) - 2

Stir of Echoes (1999)

Ringu (1998) - 5 (backed by neverending, seconded by Giganticface, The Villain, metternich1815) [IN]

Nightbreed (1990) - 3 (backed by Kandarian Demon, seconded by neverending, Straker, fortunato, The Villain, realdealblues) [IN]

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HONORABLE MENTIONS

Audition (1999) - 6 (backed by The Villain, seconded by Giganticface) {Straker*, neverending*, Sculpt*}
From Dusk Till Dawn (1996) - 4 (backed by metternich1815, seconded by hammerfan, realdealblues) {The Villain*}
Funny Games (1997) - 4 {Giganticface*, Sculpt*, The Villain*, fortunato*}
Event Horizon (1997) - 3 (backed by tiberius, seconded by metternich1815) {Straker*, neverending*}
Cemetary Man (1994) - 3 (backed by Straker) {Giganticface*, metternich1815*, The Villain*}
Tremors (1990) - 2 (backed by The Villain) {realdealblues*, Sculpt*, Giganticface*, tiberius*, fortunato*}

Night of the Living Dead (1990) - 4 (backed by Kandarian Demon, seconded by hammerfan) {Giganticface*, realdealblues*} (-1)
Natural Born Killers (1994) - 3 (backed by metternich1815, seconded by Giganticface) {neverending*, tiberius*} (-1)
Arachnophobia (1990) (backed by Sculpt) {The Villain*, metternich1815*}
Man Bites Dog (1992) (backed by Straker) {Giganticface*, The Villain*}



DEBATABLE

Leprechaun (1993) - 6 (backed by realdealblues, seconded by natedog722) (-1)

Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (1998) - 4 (backed by The Villain, seconded by realdealblues)


MINORITY

Deep Blue Sea (1999) - 3 (backed by metternich1815, seconded by The Villain, tiberius) (-1)
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (1993) - 3 (backed by natedog722) (-2)
Predator 2 (1990) - 3
Urban Legend (1998) - 3 (backed by metternich1815)

Anaconda (1997) - 2 (backed by tiberius) (-2)
Blade (1998) - 2 {Sculpt*}
Bride of Chucky (1998) - 2 (-1)
Child's Play 2 (1990) - 2
Frankenhooker (1990) - 2
Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare (1991) - 2 (-2)
Hardware (1990) - 2
House on Haunted Hill (1999) - 2 (backed by Kandarian Demon)
Interview with the Vampire (1994) - 2
Subspecies (1991) - 2
The Faculty (1998) - 2 (backed by The Villain) {realdealblues*}
The People Under the Stairs (1991) - 2
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me (1992) - 2
Warlock: The Armageddon (1993) - 2 (backed by Kandarian Demon)
Wolf (1994) - 2


SINGLE VOTES TO

Alien³ (1992)
An American Werewolf in Paris (1997)
Basket Case 2 (1990)
Begotten (1990)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992)
Castle Freak (1995)
Children of the Corn III: Urban Harvest (1995)
Clean, Shaven (1993)
Cure (1997)
End of Days (1999) (backed by natedog722)
Ernest Scared Stupid (1991)
Fallen (1998)
Fear (1996) (backed by neverending) {The Villain*}
Flatliners (1990) {Sculpt*}
Frankenstein Unbound (1990)
Gamera 2: Attack of the Legion (1996)
Gamera 3: Revenge of Iris (1999)
Godzilla vs. Destroyah (1995)
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990)
Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth (1992)
Hiruko the Goblin (1991) (backed by The Villain) {Straker*}
Humanoids from the Deep (1996)
Jurassic Park (1993) (backed by Sculpt)
Kiss the Girls (1997)
Lake Placid (1999)
Mirror Mirror (1990)
Necronomicon: Book of Dead (1993)
Needful Things (1993)
Nightmare Concert (A Cat in the Brain) (1990)
Perdita Durango (1997)
Pumpkinhead II: Blood Wings (1994 Video)
Ravenous (1999) (backed by Giganticface)
Scream 2 (1997)
Shakma (1990) ([backed by The Villain)
Sphere (1998)
Stigmata (1999)
Terror Firmer (1999)
Tesis (1996)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation (1994)
The Dentist (1996)
The Frighteners (1996)
The Guardian (1991)
The Lawnmower Man (1992)
The Night Flier (1997)
The Ninth Gate (1999)
The Relic (1997)
The Stendhal Syndrome (1996)
The X Files (1998)


SPECIAL SECTION - REST OF THE GIANT MONSTER FILMS OF THE 90s :-

Deep Rising 1998
Gamera: Guardian of the Universe 1995
Godzilla 1998
Godzilla 2000: Millennium 1999
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah 1991
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II 1993
Godzilla vs. Mothra 1992
Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla 1994
Gorilla 1995
Komodo 1999
Mighty Joe Young 1998
Mimic 1997
Rebirth of Mothra 1996
Rebirth of Mothra II 1997
Rebirth of Mothra III 1998
Reptilian 1999
Starship Troopers 1997
The Iron Giant 1999
The Lost World: Jurassic Park 1997
The Mighty Kong 1998
Tremors 2: Aftershocks 1996



The initial backings/negations stay.

Adding a special "Giant Monster" films section at the end for due consideration, since it was demanded.

Remember, we are here to select TWO films from the remaining ones from the DEBATABLE section onwards.
The "In The Cut" section is NOT for debate.

Once that is done, we can proceed to select SIX films from the remaining stock for our Honorable Mentions.

Quite a few films from this period have received NEGATIVE VOTES, so it's pretty much open for debate. A number of films remain which have received similar number of backings as well.

So, let's start finalising the FINAL TWO. Bring forth your thoughts.

LEPRECHAUN!!!!

Just kidding. Audition needs to be on this list and I really hope more people back it. Its a great movie and there are so few well done female villains.

Besides that I'll back Ringu. An important movie that really strengthened the J Horror movement.

From Dusk Til Dawn
Night of the Living Dead

Added.

Ringu has 3 backings now and is in the lead. (same as Deep Blue Sea, but that film has a negative vote)

Let's hear some more.

Nightbreed- a unique film where the monsters are the good guys and the humans the monsters. A startling conception from Clive Barker. The film as it stands is admitedly flawed, but when The Cabal Cut gets released people are going to see what a powerful, original film this truly is.

Me too. I've already backed Audition and Ringu, but those are the two I'd vote for to make the final 22. Natural Born Killers is close, but I'll save that for an honorable mention.

I'll back Ringu. As for my choices, the following three each deserve a place on the list either as top 22 or at least in the honorable mentions section. The first is Urban Legend. This film was a really unique slasher where the killer killed based off urban legends. In addition to a great premise, it is executed surprisingly well. Also, Robert Englund and Brad Dourif both starred in this film. Definitely a worthy addition to the list. The second is Event Horizon. This film is an excellent sci~fi horror from the 1990s. There are some terrific performances, especially by Sam Neil and Laurence Fishbourne. Additionally, the film is very dark with all kinds of dark imagery, throughout the film it often feels like a nightmare (and this is one of the beautiful things of this movie,the blurring of the lines between real and imaginary). This film still scares me (or at least creeps me out). As for it being a sci-fi, well the horror is very strong, so it definitely is a horror movie. Thus, this film would be an excellent edition tot his list. The third is From Dusk till Dawn. This is an interesting vampire film directed by Rodriguez. This film has a rather unique story and diverges from the usual gothic interpretation of vampires. This film also features some excellent performances. On that note, features such people as George Clooney, Tom Savini, and Quentin Tarantino in acting roles. There is also exciting vampire killing action and an impressive level of gore, especially considering that George Clooney stars. If this film does not make the top 22, it at least deserves a place in the honorable mentions section. Anyway, these are all the films that I would support for the two spots. Any of these four would be almost equally okay.

I'll back Nightbreed too;

I always loved the style and concept behind Nightbreed and loved it when I was younger, but as I got older there was a lot about the execution of the movie that really bugged me. That said, I've heard you mention The Cabal Cut a couple of times now and its really whetted my appetite.

I'll back this too....

With 21 & 22 and prepping for 6 Honorable Mentions, perhaps, with the exception of Audition, I think there's a lot of relatively weaker film choices highlighted here. I wonder if we might be over looking some films? Anyone have some possible suggestions?

Arachnophobia (1990) - I thought Arachnophobia was an excellent film, both scary, well shot and originally funny (Goodman), and also highly rated.

Jurassic Park (1993) - I really enjoyed Jurassic Park. Has strong horror elements. Not a prefect film by any means, but brought the wonder and horror of dinosaurs back to big screen in a real heavy hitting visceral experience. Spielberg is good.

Arachnophobia is good, I will consider backing it for honorable mention. As I have mentioned, I cast a wide net for what is a horror movie, but in this case I disagree. I think that the horror in Jurassic Park is not strong enough, so I group it as science fiction. That is the only reason I have not backed this film. In reality, it is one of my all-time favorite films (definitely top ten), but I just do not consider it horror.

Neither one of those are good enough to belong on this list and I wouldn't even count Jurassic Park as horror.

I'm definitely with NE on Nightbreed, especially now that the new (correct) cut is out.

Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'd like to get back to that blog, and perhaps I will at some point, but I just don't have the time currently. I write from time to time for a couple other internet publications. I can send you links to those if you're interested.
Thanks again!

It isn't out yet. It's expected in 2014.

In my opinion, Jurassic Park is an awesome movie and if this was a top 22 movie list, it would definitely be on my list. However,this is not such a list and I do agree that I do not think Jurassic Park is horror. As for Arachnophobia, I think it is a very well-made movie with some great performances, I would only debate whether if it is good enough to be on the top 22 or even honorable mentions.

I have to disagree with you on Arachnophobia Its not scary or well made in my opinion, certainly not to the caliber that were trying to reach with this list. Its a fun movie but that's about it. Its too silly to be taken seriously.

I think we can at least agree that it does not belong on the top 22 and very likely does not even belong in the honorable mentions section. On the film itself we disagree. To me, Arachnophobia was a surprisingly good horror film that gave me the "creepy crawlies" after I finished it (so, I suppose it scared me in that way). I thought the performances especially by Daniels and Goodman were excellent. It was humorous, even silly, but that was the point. In my opinion, just because a horror movie is humorous that not mean it is automatically bad or not worthy of inclusion on a best list (which when we get to the next decade we will disagree again on this because of my support of Grindhouse). Not all horror movies are scary and not all of them try to be. We disagree on the film itself and that is fine. As I stated, I really enjoy the film, but am skeptical, like you, that it deserves a place on this list.

I'm a little harder on horror movies that are comedic or silly which is why I wouldn't include it on this list. However I do like the movie, but I would never put it on any best of list. But hey were both entitled to our opinion.

I like Arachnaphobia, I just don't think it belongs in the top 22.

Nightbreed, however, is, according to Barker, his most personal film, and I think we can all agree that Barker is an important voice in modern horror. The fact thsat it was altered by the studio and most people have not seen the film that Barker wanted the world to see, is its main barrier to acceptance.

I fully expect that when The Cabal Cut is released next year it will be hailed as the amazing film it is. Then people are going to wish it was on the list.

Alright i'm sold. I'll back Nightbreed as well and eagerly await The Cabal Cut. I've never seen it so i think i'll just wait for that cut to come out before i check it out.

All added.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1042

Looks like Ringu and Nightbreed will be our 2 chosen films to join the top 20. If everyone is in joint agreement, we shall start working on the Honorable Mentions shortly.



I would also like to bring to the attention of all members involved, a film which I have glaringly overlooked while compiling the 80s. IMDB had it categorised as Comedy/Fantasy/Sci-Fi so it obviously skipped out on my "Horror/Thriller/Crime" searches while making the comprehensive Master List.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthre...=57593&page=32

The film is Ghost Busters - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087332/?ref_=sr_1

I request all members to go through our finalised choices for the 80s again, and see if Ghost Busters is good enough to replace any film in the Top 22 or 6 Honorable Mentions. If a strong enough case is made for it but it doesn't find enough backings, I'll consider giving it a spot in the "HDC Members Specially Recommend..." section of this project.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1041

I really apologise for this mistake. Thanks to Sculpt for bringing this to my notice via PM.


So, let's hear your thoughts on the 90s, and on Ghost Busters, folks.

I'm good on our final two spots for the 90's.

As for Ghostbusters, i've always felt it was more comedy then horror. Yeah there's ghosts in it and demons but it's not scary, it's not disturbing, and it doesnt evoke any of the kind of emotions a horror movie should bring out in a person. Besides containing some elements of horror, the movie really doesnt represent horror in any way. I feel like it should be left out on purpose.

I could see replacing Wishmaster or New Nightmare with Ghostbusters, but I don't think you could get a majority to agree what film to kick out.

Aren't those 90's movies? Ghostbusters is an 80's movie.

Ooops- clicked on the wrong link.


Really, I think it's too late to replace any films, even with one as iconic as Ghostbusters.

Put it in the special recommendations.

I agree with neverending; I think it should be in the special reccomendations section. It may be primarily a comedic film, but it has horror elements (very similar to Little Shop of Horrors) and is an excellent film. I am fine with those two choices for the 1990s.

I actually went back and forth on whether to add Ghostbusters to my original list, in the end it didn't make my cut.... I should add that it is one of my favourite comedies of all time, and holds a special place in my heart. I was pretty ruthless with comedy/ horror and they didn't get much of a look in until the 2000s, where there was a wave of dark satire in the genre that I thought should be represented. So I wouldn't personally back Ghostbusters to replace any of the movies already in the cut, but fully agree with NE. I think its a perfect choice for the special recommendations. That said, If there is enough strength behind it though I'm not going to kick up a fuss if people want to revise the cut, its an amazing movie.

Absolutely! Feel free to PM me. I'd love to check them out.

...

My opinion on including Nightbreed -- and not really lobbying to change anything, but just my opinion -- is that the film we're voting on is not the Cabal Cut. NE is the only one that's seen that version, and I don't know how technical we wanna get, but that version didn't come out in the 90s. So we're actually voting on the original, pretty flawed, version, which is still a really cool concept, but IMO not worthy of the top 22. When someone reads this list, they will be reading a recommendation for the 1990 film. I suggest making it a special mention, and then someone (neverending, hint, hint) can do a blurb about it, including its interesting history and his experience seeing the Cabal Cut. That's just my 2 cents.

(I would instead include Sleepaway Camp.)

[Edit]
Wait, I might be a little behind on this thread... if this is for considering Nightbreed for honorable mention, I think that's a good fit.

RE: Ghostbusters -- I considered this one when submitting my 80s list. It's a 10/10 in my book, but I ended up not including it because it's so much more funny than it is scary. I wouldn't have a problem at all if it would have been in the debate, but I don't think it's a must-have. Special mentions feels like a perfect fit for including great films that are on the fringe of horror.

[Nuther edit]
Oh wow, I just noticed Audition got bumped out -- even though it got six votes originally! Bummer. Oh well, hopefully it makes the honorable mentions.

Excellent. Ghost Busters finds a place in the special section, as per 5 members who have spoken (if anyone else disagrees, feel free to post).

That's already in the 80s finalised films. We are in the 90s now. :p

Not just yet.

If enough people are not in favor, we can still debate Nightbreed and Ringu. Only 3 members have agreed on both films so far - it's still open for debate.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1042

For the record, as things stand at the moment:-

Nightbreed - 5 backings
Ringu - 4 backings
Audition - 3 backings
Deep Blue Sea - 3 backings + a negative vote
Leprechaun - 2 backings
From Dusk Till Dawn - 2 backings
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later - 2 backings
Night of the Living Dead - 2 backings
Event Horizon - 2 backings
Natural Born Killers - 2 backings
The Faculty - 2 backings
Tremors - 2 backings

Audition still has a chance to leap-frog Ringu, if it gets 2 more backings.

Oh whoops! Confusing Sleepaway Camp for the 90s... that's just wrong. Thanks for the clarifications, V.

I'll back Nightbreed just to seal it in because it definitely deserves it.

I hated Ringu almost as much as I hated it's American counterpart & didn't like Audition either, but I won't be a jerk and Neg vote them just because of my own personal feelings...

The only one I haven't already backed before is From Dusk To Dawn, so I will back that one.

Cool. I suspect that will seal it, so if we're at the point of counting up approvals for Ringu and Nightbreed, I say, "Aye."

We're whipping thru pretty fast here (in short period of time). Just got back.

Ghostbusters -
In regards to Ghostbusters, if you weren't old enough to see it in the theatre, you many not be able to appreciate just how original & huge it was. It's 5 star fantastic film. It's no less a horror film than Son of Frankenstein & Little Shop of Horrors; packed with Horror elements. The ghost scene in the library gave me a fright. I think it's a glaring omission.

What to replace it with is going to be an opinion call. In the top 22, I'd say it's a better film than these (in my order):
The Beyond (1981)
Pet Sematary (1989)
The Changeling (1980)

In Honorable Mentions, IMO it's a more worthy film than all of them; best replacements:
Demons (1985)
Sleepaway Camp (1983)
The Fog (1980)
[others: Near Dark, Day of the Dead, The Return of the Living Dead]

If you consider it a Horror film, and worthy of inclusion, post the film you'd replace it with. Mine is Beyond in the 22, and Sleepaway in Honorable Mentions.

Ghostbusters is a great film, but there is no way it is better than Pet Sematary or The Changeling (or, to be honest, The Beyond. I am a big Fulci fan). I think it is best on the special reccomendations section because,I, personally, would not rank it above any of the films mentioned, except maybe Demons. But, like I said, it is best in that section because it is significant.

In regards to Audition, Ringu and Nightbreed, I think Ringu is the better, but for the other two, people tend to polarize (like/hate), and I don't have a strong opinion in them. So I'm cool with results.



http://www.projections-movies.com/im...chnophobia.jpg

Arachnophobia - Nice debate going on. Consider this: director Frank Mashall expertly shot scenes to fully exploit fear of spiders - recall the scene of spiders coming out of the faucets; the spider on the table that keeps facing and moving with every move of the actor; spiders bursting from the pulsating spider sac. Very effective creepiness & exploitation of fear. For those who consider it might not a good enough film, take into account the 91% Critic rating at RT (34 critics).

Check this scene out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cbtcfFJjo


For your consideration, the full HD Arachnophobia film is on youtube for free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMN8xMzKUcE

I agree, I find that movie extremely creepy (and very effective). It is a very underrated film, in my opinion.

I don't understand. Why would I need to see a movie in the theaters to fully appreciate it? Most of my favorite movies I've watched at home. I don't need to watch a movie in a building full of immature people who are going to ruin the movie for me anyway to understand it.

I still have to disagree about its strength of a horror movie because its not a horror movie. Its a horror comedy which belongs in an entirely different category IMO.

Is it a great movie? Yes. But were not here to argue the best movies, were here to argue the best horror movies. Having horror elements in a movie does not make it one.

IMO it is not a better horror film then the movies on this list especially the ones you've mentioned. I'm all for it being included on some special recommendation but not on the actual list.

And I consider it to be strictly comedy.

Honestly so do I