i read all of this....are you all for abortion sam??

By the way, since I keep saying no religion, I feel I should make it clear that personally, I believe in souls. No, I don't know whether or not the soul is in the fetus the whole time or not. But not everybody does, so I'm not bringing in my personal religious beliefs into the argument.

Hey, why not then.

I'm agnostic, not religious at all. But I believe there are souls also, and that it does go somewhere after you die. Where I'm not sure, and when a fetus is given one I'm not sure.

But neither of those are part of this debate :P

Only reason I said it is because I got the feeling that it was gonna start to look like I had some bias against religion. You're right, it isn't part of the debate.


Now...*awaits facts*

No offense gore but i think if sam told you to whipe his ass you would.You need a mind of your own and quit being a puppet.And sam you brought up some good points.But thats the great thing about this world u can disagree about things and not get stupid about it.

wait a sec fucker....dont tell me that im a puppet because i work alone mother fucker....i listen to sam cause he acually knows what the fuck he is saying....so untill i see facts on ur part then maybe i'd listen to you

Like I've said over and over again. I'm not necissarily for abortion. My point is that the arguments that support it are fundamentally religious and are thus unimportant as it pertains to outlawing abortion.

You're still not helping. Calm down.

i said that i am for it if the baby isnt fully developed so 2 months....if after 2 months and it starts to fully develop then no don't do it....

sorry dude he just pisses me off just cause i agree with you that i am up your ass and shit....its just my opinion too....cause I agree with you