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The_Return 06-12-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Silver_Shamrock
"Dead End" - awful, awful movie. The only thing keeping it from being a complete waste of time was Lin Shaye ("Something About Mary") as the grief stricken mother. Otherwise, avoid at all cost!
What didnt you like? I loved it, one of the best horror movies Ive seen in a long while.

mothermold 06-12-2006 02:02 PM

Grandma's Boy(unrated)

The_Return 06-12-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by mothermold
Grandma's Boy(unrated)
As bad as it looks?

mothermold 06-12-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by The_Return
As bad as it looks?
I was blind going into it,so I really did'nt know what to expect.There were some funny scenes and a few good characters.It's worth a look IMO,but's it's no Bad Santa.:)

The_Return 06-12-2006 05:18 PM

Vertigo

You know what I think? I think everyone who has seen this film only remembers the ending. After a certain turning point near the end of the film, it lives up to it's reputation in every way. Up until then, it's a poorly paced, criminally overrated film.

They call Hitchcock the "Master of Suspence". Sure he has earned the title, and films like Psycho, Frenzy or Rear Window are proof. Well, I dont know what happened but he was sure missing that gift in '58. Most of the film falls flat, and the first hour and a half or so, with a couple rare exceptions, drags on at a snails pace.

The actors were good for the most part. Stewart gives a great performance from beginning to end, while Novak does her best work after the turning point. She seemed to be asleep for most of the first hour and a half. The supporting cast isnt awful, but not nearly as good as I would have expected.

Now, there must be some reason why people hail this as Hitchcock's masterpiece? Of cource there is: The ending. I wont ruin it for any of you who havent forced yourselves to sit through this, but the ending is incredible. A couple good twists followed by a huge shocker, this is what people remember about the film.

This is all-in-all a pretty lackluster film. The dream sequence and the ending are great, as are the lead actors, but everything else seems to fall flat. One of the most overrated films Ive ever seen.

6/10

filmmaker2 06-12-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i remember at least one of the scenes restored was a dialogue scene that was subtitled as one of the actors spoke only italian.

i think...

Deep Red/Profondo Rosso... Yeah....the extended Anchor Bay version, I forget what it was called ("The Director's Cut" or something like that?), had 3-4 scenes in Italian with English subtitles. And the gore scenes are longer, quite a bit longer. Good god! What a screwed up movie.

Now, to be fair, though, even cut down seriously for an R rating or for TV, it's still a really interesting film, and the Goblin music is really cool. I enjoyed it a lot when I saw it on TV in the 70's (cut to shreds), and when I finally saw the uncut version, I was shocked.

hellfire1 06-12-2006 06:49 PM

thumbsucker and the chumscrubber.

it was weird title movie night.

bwind22 06-13-2006 02:56 AM

The Toolbox Murders (Remake)

I know I'll be in the minority here, but I actually liked this better than the original. I thought Tobe Hooper did a lot better job setting up the characters & plot than Donnelly did in the original. There was also better gore in this one too & overall I liked the story of this villain better as well.

I actually was pretty much thuroughly entertained by this one, except that it was a bit slow for about the first half hour. All in all though, I really liked it. It's a remake so it'll get marked down a bit for lack of original ideas, but other than that I don't think this film should be stuck with the reputation of being 'another crappy remake' because like I said, I found it more entertaining than the original.

B-

Creeping-Death 06-13-2006 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Silver_Shamrock
"Dead End" - awful, awful movie....avoid at all cost!

No way - I also loved this movie. It's so unlike any other "new" horror film - unique. It was actually a movie that I started late, and kept watching, rather than get bored and fall asleep (Like I did last night trying to watch "Man Behind the Sun") And the ending was very cool als.

noctuary 06-13-2006 06:52 AM

The Omen (remake)

I was pleasantly surprised by this film. No, it's not as good as the original, but I think it would stand on its own if it wasn't a remake. There were a few good scares, and the little kid that they got to play Damien was creepy as all hell. There's something about him that makes me wonder though... If you were a parent, would you not think that there was something a little strange about a five year old who never, ever smiles? That's kind of abnormal.

The_Return 06-13-2006 07:17 AM

Frenzy


Though much more violent and gritty than most of his work, this is certainly a Hitchcock classic, and much better than some of his supposed "masterpieces".

There are no especially famous actors involved, but everyone does an outstanding job. Jon Finch is splendid as a man wrongfully accused of serial murders, and Barry Foster is just as phenominal as the actual murderer. His character, Bob Rusk, was a very interesting villain, far from the typical movie serial killer.

Hitch managed to make some scenes very, very uncomfortable. Most obviously, the imfamous rape scene, but his use of the camera elsewhere in the film also served to create alot of tension. He offset this with a good deal of black humor, witch I really enjoyed. The dinner scene was especially well done and subtly hilarious.

The only real flaw that I can think of is the pacing, which is a common problem in many of Hitchcock's works. Overall however, I think this is one of the better films from the "Master of Suspence".

7.5/10

The_Return 06-13-2006 07:34 AM

Strange double feature? Yes, I know:p


Mortal Kombat: Annihilation


Well it's not really as bad as everyone says, but it's still a pretty awful movie.

Let's start with the plot, shall we? Not a lot to say about it really, other than the whole thing is a giant plot hole! It makes no sense what-so-ever, as it makes the entire first movie completely pointless. Even if it did make sense, it still isn't much of a plot. They have 6 days to save the word from total destruction. OK, whatever, not as bad as you might think, right? Wrng. The majority of the film could take place in less than a day, so I really wonder what the hell they were doing for the other 5. Stupid plot.

Moving on, I'll mention the actors. Oh God, the actors. Most of the returning characters from the first movie are replaced by new, even worse actors. I'm really glad that they killed off Johnny Cage within the first couple minutes, as that actor seemed to be the worst of the bunch. Sonja Blade's replacement was pretty awful as well, and saw fit to completely change the character.

Maybe I shouldn't be so hard on the actors. I mean, look at the script. This movie could have had Al Pacino, Marlon Brando, Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson, but even they would have looked terrible having to say some of these pathetically cheesy lines.

One thing that I'll give this film is that it has some half decent fight scenes. Nothing spectacular, and the CGI is really bad, but at least they were mildly entertaining.

In all honesty this isn't a whole lot worse than the first film, but it is really, really bad. Id avoid it.

4/10

cheebacheeba 06-13-2006 07:48 AM

Yeah, MK2 was a joke...I personally didn't mind the first one, it was at least a mile better than the attempt they made at "streetfighter" on film.
The second one was shithouse, from it's crappy sped up REUSED soundtrack, to the character replacements, to the overdone "boss" characters...and how about the "animalities", if it wasn't stupid enough that final fight scene sure did it.
Replacing Lambert with that guy from the warriors was a bad move too...I hated it.

I watched Transporter 2 last night...definately not the directors best work (of course there's the proffesional and danny the dog to contend with), and if you can look past the absolutely unrealistic driving scenes, it's a decent "dont have to think too much" action film with some excellently coreographed fight scenes, and a GREAT (as usual) soundtrack.
I guess I'll have to see the first one now...

The_Return 06-13-2006 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by cheebacheeba
Yeah, MK2 was a joke...I personally didn't mind the first one, it was at least a mile better than the attempt they made at "streetfighter" on film.
The second one was shithouse, from it's crappy sped up REUSED soundtrack, to the character replacements, to the overdone "boss" characters...and how about the "animalities", if it wasn't stupid enough that final fight scene sure did it.
Replacing Lambert with that guy from the warriors was a bad move too...I hated it.

I didnt min the first one either, it wasnt great but it was fairly enjoably. From memory, I think I gave it 5.5/10.

As for Street Fighter, I really enjoyed that one. It's just alot of fun.

joshaube 06-13-2006 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by Creeping-Death
No way - I also loved this movie. It's so unlike any other "new" horror film - unique. It was actually a movie that I started late, and kept watching, rather than get bored and fall asleep (Like I did last night trying to watch "Man Behind the Sun") And the ending was very cool als.
Dead End wasn't "original", the same story/twist is used in a bunch of movies. Some worse, some better. Here's a few.

Dead End (2003)
November (2004)
Stay (2005 - but was made earlier)
Reeker (2005)

All involve the exact twist. All done differently. Three of the four use the exact car crash incident. All of them have the same reveal at the end.

I really want indepdant film makers to get off of this twist-style.

I'd say Stay was the first, and November wasn't aware of anything else. Dead End might have heard the idea somewhere, and Reeker was aplain rip-off of Dead End & Identity.

urgeok 06-13-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by joshaube
Dead End wasn't "original", the same story/twist is used in a bunch of movies. Some worse, some better. Here's a few.

Dead End (2003)
November (2004)
Stay (2005 - but was made earlier)
Reeker (2005)

All involve the exact twist. All done differently. Three of the four use the exact car crash incident. All of them have the same reveal at the end.

I really want indepdant film makers to get off of this twist-style.

I'd say Stay was the first, and November wasn't aware of anything else. Dead End might have heard the idea somewhere, and Reeker was aplain rip-off of Dead End & Identity.

i would say that Stay owes a lot to Jacobs Ladder.
and traces of The Devils Advocate/Last Temptation of Christ

newb 06-13-2006 09:13 AM

16 Blocks
Typical Bruce Willis flic.......nothing wrong with that.The only drawback in the movie was Mos Def's voice.....annoying as hell.

joshaube 06-13-2006 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i would say that Stay owes a lot to Jacobs Ladder.
and traces of The Devils Advocate/Last Temptation of Christ

I really ought to pick up Jacob's Ladder...

urgeok 06-13-2006 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by joshaube
I really ought to pick up Jacob's Ladder...
cant go wrong with that one.

The_Return 06-13-2006 11:02 AM

I dont see how you can say that a film isnt good just because it has a similar ending to other movies. I agree 100% that Dead End had a pretty weak ending, but the rest of the movie was incredible.

Thats just like saying 6th Sence is no good because it has the same twist as Carnival of Souls:rolleyes:

joshaube 06-13-2006 11:29 AM

I didn't think Dead End was a bad movie at all! I posted a review a few pages back, lol, I actually watched it twice - within two days.

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Dead End
I'd first like to point out that I am a bit tired with movies using this sort of twist ending. I won't say which movies it was used in before, because if you've seen any of them that will ruin the ending. It seems to be a trend lately, and I have just watched in the last few months a total of 5 films with this exact ending. Saying that - this was one of the better, if not the best, out of those 5.

I found myself, throughout this, running in to my mother's room and telling her scene-by-scene what was happening. I annoyed her a little bit by it, so I stopped after the death of Richard. I'll definatly watch this again with her, as she should get a kick out of it too.

After the dissapearence of Lin Shaye's character (who I am beginning to sort of love) - the movie did drop in excitement. She showed an amazing range of character in this film, and that's just a testament to how great an actress she really is. I also love her for sticking to these types of films - Can't wait to see her in SoaP!

The film sort of felt like Masters of Horror episode - but if it was, it would blow Cigarette Burns out of the water.

The soundtrack was something I also noticed. The eerie soundeffects, haunting music, and a few really good vocal tracks. It fits things well, and it heavily reminded me of the stuff you can hear in Scream. Loved the music in that movie, and it's sequel, too.

Also - may sound like I am dumb - I am glad for the well-explained ending. Unlike other movies like this, they sometimes make you wonder "So... then where did they get THIS from?" and you have to run it over and over again in your mind. But with this, as it was shown and revealed, things just clicked. The scene shortly after some early credits was also an ace scene. Definately glad they stuck that in there, and it makes you wonder...

Reccomended.

dark thoughts 06-13-2006 09:21 PM

Drive-in Masacre

It looked like a well done police documentary more than a horror film.

bwind22 06-13-2006 10:44 PM

Wow. I got no slack at all for liking the Toolbox Murders remake more than the original?!?!? Sweet!

Anyways, I didn't watch any movies today. I taped Hell's Kitchen last night & watched that & then I watched some of Deadwood Season 2. No movies to report today.

filmmaker2 06-13-2006 10:46 PM

Hey Dark Thoughts, this is OT, but...is that avatar a shopped version of the album cover of Kate Bush's "The Dreaming"?

AUSTIN316426808 06-14-2006 01:44 AM

Lord of War

The Flayed One 06-14-2006 04:27 AM

Suspiria

I don't know if I can say anything about this movie that hasn't already been said. You want atmosphere, look no farther. This is one of the only movies I've ever watched that I had a hard time concentrating on the story because I was so engrossed in the music & visuals. 9.5/10

The_Return 06-14-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by filmmaker2
Twilight Zone: The Movie

Found it at one of the used video stores, hadn't seen it in ages, literally, and......you know, I'm sure that seeing this when I was young has something to do with it, but I really like this movie. It's definitely not perfect, but it has its own special feeling. And the Jerry Goldsmith score is great.

I only saw it once, along time ago, but I LOVED that movie

The_Return 06-14-2006 04:45 PM

A Face in the Crowd

I recently picked this up for $5 on DVD, and let me tell you folks: It was five bucks very well spent. I'm very surprised that this movie isn't very well known today, as it certainly deserves much more recognition.

First off, the story somehow manages to seem current even in our modern times. It truly is a timeless story about corruption, greed and how we really are just sheep to the media.

Really though, this film is character driven. "Lonesome" Rhodes is the whole movie; it's his life, his rise and his fall. Andy Griffith, who until now I knew only as Matlock, give an absolutely amazing performance as the simple country boy as he slowly becomes corrupted with power. He creates one of the most interesting characters that I think I've ever seen, on so many levels. The cast of the cast are incredible as well, especially Patricia Neal and Walter Matthau. His speech at the end of the film was spectacular.

Last but not least, the directing. Elia Kazan really does a great job here, using some great metaphors and creating a great noir-esquire atmosphere. A slight flaw was the very fast pacing near the first, but it was really nothing major. We didn't get to see as much of Pickett as I would have liked but as I said, it's no biggie.

Overall, this film is really incredible. Amazing acted, written and directed, I think it's a must see for anyone.

9/10

horrorobsessed 06-14-2006 05:38 PM

Hellraiser: Hellworld


okay, not as good as the first one. 6/10

bwind22 06-14-2006 10:27 PM

Anatomy

Cool, gruesome movie. Well acted, well directed. The gore was very realistic & the plot was just cool. This was supposedly filmed in German, but I wouldn't have even been able to tell without looking it up because they did such an excellent job on the dubbing. All in all, I was very impressed & thuroughly entertained!

B

persuasian70 06-14-2006 10:46 PM

Running Scared 8/10

Glory Road 8/10

Dante'sInferno 06-14-2006 11:29 PM

Evil Dead 2,my new favorite horror movie.

mothermold 06-14-2006 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
Evil Dead 2,my new favorite horror movie.
You can't deny it!!:D


Ash is the shit!

Dante'sInferno 06-14-2006 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by mothermold
You can't deny it!!:D


Ash is the shit!

I know he is now!Hell yeah!

mothermold 06-14-2006 11:38 PM

Dave Chappelle's "Block Party"
Black Hawk Down

AUSTIN316426808 06-15-2006 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by The_Return
I'm very surprised that this movie isn't very well known today, as it certainly deserves much more recognition.


You and me both, very underrated film. It's one of the best films ever made and you never hear one word about it.

mudsliptones 06-15-2006 02:10 AM

Last movie I've seen is Identity

saw 4 movies yesterday:
Bride of re-animator
I, robot (was pretty good, better as expected)
Guest House Paradiso
Identity

Jut finished doing some work around the house and going to watch the langolier now, just got them from a friend, been a long time since I've seen it

If I still have time left Im gonna watch beyond re-animator


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Originally posted by bwind22
Anatomy

Cool, gruesome movie. Well acted, well directed. The gore was very realistic & the plot was just cool. This was supposedly filmed in German, but I wouldn't have even been able to tell without looking it up because they did such an excellent job on the dubbing. All in all, I was very impressed & thuroughly entertained!

B

Why watch it dubbed??? it is so much better in german!!! I don't understand german but still, read the subs then, isnt hard

Dubbing films is so stupid, allot of jokes and voice acting gets lost

Yellow Jacket 06-15-2006 02:22 AM

The Pink Panther (remake)- 0.5/5

Dave Chappelle's Block Party- 4/5

16 Blocks- 3/5

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang- 4/5

Aquamarine- 0.5/5

Sarah Silverman: Jesus is Magic- 3.5/5

The World's Fastest Indian- 5/5

Game 6- 3/5

End of the Spear- 1/5

Green Street Hooligans- 5/5

Mr. Wrong- 3.5/5

Children of the Corn II: The Final Sacrifice- 1/5

Glory Road- 1/5

Running Scared- 5/5

bwind22 06-15-2006 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
Evil Dead 2,my new favorite horror movie.
What? You hadn't seen it before???

bwind22 06-15-2006 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by mudsliptones


Why watch it dubbed??? it is so much better in german!!! I don't understand german but still, read the subs then, isnt hard

Dubbing films is so stupid, allot of jokes and voice acting gets lost

2 reasons.

1- when it started, it just started up dubbed. I'm not even sure if I had the option to watch it in German since it was on VHS & I didn't play around with the settings at all.

2- I tend to do stuff (Packing a bowl, writing out bills, folding laundry, whatever) while I'm watching a movie and if I have to be reading subtitles instead of just listening, then I either can't do whatever I want to, or I'm not able to pay attention to what's going on in the movie.


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